The Pineal gland is an extraordinary gland. In days past it was called ‘the seat of the soul‘ by René Descartes (1). This gland might have crystalline properties. This page goes into a few references to the pineal gland in the videos by Elena Danaan. First we’ll talk about how it was mentioned by Chris O’Connor and then we’ll spend some time on Elena’s experience with Oona. We will also briefly touch upon the perspectives of both David Wilcock and George Kavassilas’ on the pineal gland.

Chris O’Connor and Consciousness Extraction
In a video from March 2022 (2) we can hear about Chris O’Connor’s (3) experiences during one of his 20-year-and-back programs (4). As was already described on the page on Cloning (5), he said that a device that looked a lot like the Deem’s Device (2) is used to not only extract memories from someone, but it is also used to extract the consciousness from the pineal gland (13). This seems to confirm what Descartes proposed in the seventeenth century, although I guess he never thought of adding this consciousness to a freshly prepared clone.

The Pineal Gland as a Portal
Elena Danaan talked about her experience with Oona (6) several times in a number of videos. In a video from December 8, 2021 she says the following about her meeting with the Nine: “I was my consciousness, not my physical body. My consciousness was projected in the void and there was a big vortex that was inside of my – I think my pineal gland was the portal (12) – , and I went through this and I was projected in the void through the portal, the wormhole and I was in their presence. My consciousness was expanded infinitely because in this void there is no space. It’s like infinitely existent and non-existent at the same time. It’s nowhere and everywhere at the same time. Bear with me because it’s very difficult to encompass this this idea. In this case it’s beyond my incapacities in English language, is beyond words.” (10)

In a more recent interview with Jeff Mara she elaborated more on the pineal gland. In that video (11) we can hear her say the following: “So I have a friend her name is Oona (6), she is six density she’s quite high frequency she came into my room once. She materialized she sat on my bed and she connected me – she made the bridge to connect me with these nine plasmic consciousnesses because I couldn’t do it myself. I needed someone to to just do the the impulse, the bridge for me, and bring me there.

She put her index through my forehead and like she dematerialized and went inside and i know she touched my pineal gland and when she did that i just fell asleep, like my body was just shutting down. I could see a vortex opening, it was like a wormhole, it was green and white twirling, twirling, twirling, twirling and my consciousness left my body and was projected in it and I was in the void: it was darkness, total darkness and i sensed presences and that’s when i heard them and they were light and and i saw them and i heard their voice in my head and that’s how i got there.” (11).

DAVID WILCOCK AND THE PINEAL GLAND
In an X-post from May 23, 2025 (14) we can hear dr. Salla talk about the way both David Wilcock an George Kavassilas regard the Pineal Gland. When it comes to David Wilcock (15) he writes:

“David Wilcock’s analysis of the Pineal Gland provides many insights into its core functions and how it relates to dreams, visions, and the 3rd Eye. I appreciated the historical analysis he gave of the Pineal Gland, especially the emphasis that the Anunnaki gave to it. In many cuneiform texts/glyphs, an Anunnaki, Enki/Ea, is depicted holding a pine cone that is placed next to his human creations. Wilcock interprets this as the Anunnaki knowing the Pineal Gland’s importance in stimulating human higher functions. ” (14)

GEORGE KAVASSILAS AND THE PINEAL GLAND
This is the debut for George Kavassilas on this website. Dr. Salla has done quite a few interviews him lately (19,20) and he is scheduled for a webinar (21). He runs his own website (22) and we have reserved a thread for Kavassilas in our Study Group (23,24). It appears that his perspective is quite at odds with the Elena Danaan perspective that we use as our working hypothesis on this website.

Let’s listen to his ideas surrounding the pineal gland. Dr. Salla continues in his post (14):

“There is however another interpretation that intrigues me. George Kavassilas claims that Anunnaki created the Pineal Gland as a means of controlling humanity, whereby dreams/visions, etc., feed directly into a God Matrix. That suggests that rather than Enki/Ea holding pine cone for the purpose of stimulating the Pineal Gland, that it in fact such glyphs are evidence that Enki and the Anunnaki created it and inserted it into humans as part of their control system as Kavassilas claims.” (14)

I cannot deny that I was quite surprised when I heard this original take. In a book description I could verify that indeed this is what Kavassilas suggests:

“There are thousands of extra-terrestial stellar civilizations, some evil, most humane (pun intended). The pineal gland is an implanted biological feature that enables the worst of these civilization to control our elites at one level (Satanic blood rites) and the rest of us at another level (dumbed down acceptance of fake government, fake media, fake religions, and predatory toxic corporations) (25).

I discovered that this idea is not something new; he already talked about it in an 2018 interview with Dr. Salla (26), where he also mentioned the Saturn-Moon Control Matrix (27-29).

How logical is it to assume that the Anunnaki would have actually CREATED the pineal gland as a means to control humanity? Why do most (if not all) mammals have pineal glands? Dit the Anunnaki created pineal glands in all these animals as well? And what about all these accounts where the calcification of the pineal gland is linked to some higher awareness?

Elena Danaan seems to have indirectly responded to Kavassilas’ take on the pineal gland (30).

SOME REFLECTIONS
For now I prefer to regard the pineal gland as a nearly holy gland, the third-eye, with the potential to elevate our awareness to higher densities. Kavassilas not only regards the pineal gland as something negative, but he even thinks of the chakra system as a synthetic construct designed to manipulate humanity (31). I don’t think that is likely, but who knows? What are your thoughts on this issue? Share them in our Study Group or join one of the other groups (32).

LINKS
(1) Descartes and the Pineal Gland – Stanford Encyclopedia of Philosophy
(2) THE DEEMS DEVICE ~ Gift from the Star People~ With Chris O’Connor. March 16, 2022 at 6pm EST
(3) Here’s a snapshot from a video that Dani Henderson did with Chris O’Connor as special guest in Costa Rica 😉 DEEMS DEVICE LIVE OPENING – WITH DANI HENDERSON AND SURPRISE GUEST
(4) Twenty Year and Back-Program
(5) On Human Cloning in the Secret Space Program

(6) Oona is a 6th Dimensional being who ‘works’ as an emissary of the Intergalactic Confederation (7). She was the one who guided Elena to the Nine, and she also (with many others from the Galactic Federation of Worlds and the Earth Alliance) tried to offer the Cabal a chance to hand over the keys of their malevolent financial system in return for an escape to another planet (8). She also shared messages in the contact series: 5 (Oona on the Arks), 10 (The Fleets of the Star Nations) and 12 (Message from Other Galaxies)
(7) Intergalactic Confederation
(8) Part 2 – Cabal leaders go to Antarctica to surrender to Extraterrestrials & Earth Alliance – Well, as I write this in August it doesn’t look like the Cabal have accepted this offer. Apparently they have opted to fight until the end, even without the support of their off-world ‘masters’. Let’s hope they will collapse rapidly. Their powers are rapidly dwindling, now it is take for us to take things in our hands (9)
(9) It is time to Soar as Humanity and Add the last Stone to the Monument – It is up to us now
(10) Ganymede and Q&A, December 8, 2021
(11) Messages from Aliens they want you to know – Interview with Jeff Mara on August 6, 2022 (jump right to the quote)
(12) For more on Portal see: Portals, Stargates and Wormholes
(13) This reminds me of this awful practice called ‘soul harvesting’. Look for more on that ugly topic at Soul Harvesting and Soul Scalping
(14) https://x.com/MichaelSalla/status/1925900583665275082
(15) David Wilcock hardly appears on this website. You can see him in his role as host in the once popular Cosmic Disclosure series where he interviews Corey Goode (16). He also appears in the article on the weird fires in Paradise, California and the link with those he calls the Centaurians (17).
(16) The Global Galactic League of Nations established in the 1980s and 1990s
(17) Wilcock Interview on Centaurians and the Fire in the town of Paradise, California
(18) Outer Limits of Inner Truth
(19) Ascension vs Integration – Gods, ETs and the Omniverse: An Interview with George Kavassilas
(20) Diplomatic Letter from an Inner Earth Draco Reptilian on Humanity’s Potential and Overcoming Duality
(21) Dilemma of a Star Trek Future and Challenge to Human Sovereignty
(22) Our Journey Home
(23) We started this thread way back in September 2023: see George Kavassilas and Elena Danaan
(24) Also see the Pineal Gland thread
(25) Review: Our Universal Journey + extraterrestrial RECAP
(26) Overcoming the Saturn Moon Extraterrestrial Control System – Pt 2
(27) It’s interesting to note that Kavassilas mentions this ‘control matrix’ from Saturn to the Moon already in 2018, a few years before the advent of Elena Danaan, who also mentioned this Saturn-Moon control element, which seemed to be part of some Anunnaki/Nebu Alliance; for more on that aspect see (28,29)
(28) The Enlil Faction of the Anunnaki and the Saturn Agreement with the Orion Grays (Nebu) – See footnote 5 in this article to see Elena talk about all this in the company of JP, Dr. Salla and Alex Collier.
(29) The Movie-projector is turned off – Are we going to Continue to Play the same Movie or not?
(30) Here’s a part of a Telegram post in May 2025, related to the pineal gland issue: “What Ea (Enki) discovered within the primordial human was a fabulous, multi-galactic genetic heritage and a potential that showed the humans of Earth as one of the most powerful species in the whole Creation. Through activating their potential and their pineal Gland, Ea gave a chance to Humanity.”
(31) “George Kavassilas views the chakra system as a synthetic construct designed to manipulate and control humanity, rather than a natural or beneficial aspect of human spirituality. He argues that chakras are part of a “false light matrix” imposed by extraterrestrial or interdimensional entities, often linked to a cosmic control system involving Saturn and the Moon. According to Kavassilas, the seven main chakras, along with the kundalini energy and pineal gland, are artificial implants that fragment human consciousness, limit spiritual potential, and keep individuals bound to a lower-dimensional reality.” (answer from Grok: see the link for sources: https://x.com/i/grok/share/SM6rZZLVRO0QVwNbiedewty5Q)
(32) Telegram groups: Galactic Anthropology (general updates), Galactic Anthropology Study Group (most active group with hundreds of separate discussion topics) Alex Collier and Andromedans Study Group and the Galactic Anthropology Library. Elena Danaan also has her own telegram channel and even her own open telegram chat group. Dr. Salla also runs a Telegram Group that even allows for discussion.
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