Were Humans 5D until the Fall of Atlantis?

This is the second article in which I focus on the perspective of Larry Fulmer, based upon his various off-world and inner-world contacts (1). The first article in this series was about the green skinned people (3). This article explores another intriguing element within this perspective, namely that we as human beings would have been in 5th density up until the Destruction of Atlantis, which would have lowered our frequency to a 3rd density one (4).

HUMANS BEING BEYOND THE REACH OF THE ARRIVAL OF THE ANUNNAKI
In the video excerpt below (5) you can hear Larry explain what he has been told about the arrival of the Anunnaki and their interaction with us. Some 450,000 years ago the Anunnaki arrived on our shores and they tried to conquer our world, but they miserably failed because they could not reach us, for we would have been in a 5th density frequency and they were only 3D/4D. There were no genetic mutations made by the Anunnaki then. This is obviously different than Enki’s account of our history (6) and what we have learned from the work of Zecharia Sitchen (7).

The genetic mutations could probably only take place after humanity on Earth was lowered to a third density frequency. You can find more about that in the interview (5). Let’s listen to Larry himself (3 minutes):

Larry Fulmer speaks about the arrival of the Anunnaki and 5D people at the time (5)

THE DROPPING OF THE ASTEROID(S) ON OUR PLANET
Larry says that the Anunnaki after some 438 thousand (10) years decided on a plan to wipe out most of humanity, in order to make sure that the remaining ones would eventually lose their higher vibration to come down to their level, probably making them available for genetic manipulation. They, with Enlil leading this evil initiative, got themselves one or more asteroids from the Asteroid belt and sent them on a journey to hit Earth. This would have destroyed the peaceful civilization of Atlantis some 12,000 years ago.

This element of the dropping of an asteroid on our planet that caused the destruction of Atlantis was also mentioned in Enki’s account of our history in Elena Danaan’s work (6, 8)

ON A COLLISION COURSE WITH ENKI’S ACCOUNT OF OUR HISTORY
You don’t need to be an exopolitical history expert to realize that this theory is not compatible with the historical account that was shared with Elena Danaan by Enki. I won’t go into depth about all the various elements, but I will name a few to stimulate some discussion, and if I have learned anything from the disclosure community, it is that they love to freely reflect and compare the information given by contactees.

The Destruction of Atlantis (15)

First there is the timing: Enki said that the Anunnaki arrived here 372,000 BC and that he soon after, added his genomes to the ‘blackheads’ that were walking on the face of the Earth (9, pp 494,495). In Larry’s account this mutating of genes only happened after the Fall into 3D after the destruction of Atlantis less than 12,000 years ago.

Then about the people that the Anunnaki encountered: they would have been beings that were in a higher density than the Anunnaki themselves. These don’t seem to be ‘primitive blackheads’. How could they have been this advanced, some even ascending into 6D, without Enki’s genetic expertise? Within Larry’s theory humanity would have lived on Earth for millions of years when the Anunnaki arrived. There is no mention at all of human civilizations on our planet in Enki’s account before their arrival (11).

Well, I will leave it at this for now. What are your thoughts on this? Would there be more sources confirming Larry’s account of our history? Would other sources confirm Enki’s account? How does it match with Lacerta’s account for instance (12)? Perhaps Elena should ask Arkelios’ perspective on all this (13)? Share your thoughts in the comments or in the various Study Groups (14).

FOOTNOTES
(1) I created a topic called ‘The Larry Fulmer Files‘ in the Galactic Anthropology Study Group in June 2023. You can read that thread there. Since then Larry has left the group and he removed a few items from that thread. There’s also another thread in which I analyze one of his talks with Hermes (2).

He has his own youtube channel and he started his own (telegram) group at LarryFulmerChat. I was part of that group a couple of days before I was booted by Larry. Despite that I still think that Larry’s material is interesting to study and compare with other sources. I take a neutral position to his work. I have learned that studying this material implies looking beyond the personalities with their funny ways. And for the record, I have got my own funny ways as well πŸ™‚
(2) Exploring Larry Fulmer Videos – This thread is filled with lots of links to other articles on this website.
(3) The Green-skinned People from Earth
(4) This didn’t happen over night as Karen said in (5), but it took a few thousand years for the process of the lowering of our 5D to 3D to take place.
(5) INNER WORLD CONVERSATION WITH LARRY FULMER AND DR. K PART 1
(6) Enki’s account on the Fall of of Atlantis – From this post you can find links to others accounts related to the destruction of Atlantis.
(7) Sitchen, Z. (1976) The 12th Planet.
(8) β€œOnly the final phase was brutal, with the culmination of the inner conflicts and the final strike in a growing warfare with the Ciakahrr, that resulted into the crash of an artificial meteor.” (9, p.508)

In Elena’s book, The Seeders (9), it is not specifically said who was behind this meteor, but Elena later added that it was Enlil. In Alex Collier’s understanding it were some ‘Pleiadean’ groups that were behind the dropping of this meteor (6).


(9) Danaan, E. (2022) The Seeders
(10) I am showing off my mathematical skills here. If the Anunnaki arrived here 450,000 years ago, and Atlantis was destroyed 12,000 years ago, they waited for 438,000 years.
(11) This structural omission of any civilization before the arrival of the Anunnaki is one of the elements that is recurrent in Enki’s account of our history. See Analysis of Enki’s Account on our History – Some Oddities
(12) Lacerta on the Seeding of Humanity by those from Aldebaran
(13) Arkelios Describes his Inner Earth World
(14) The Galactic Anthropology Library (Telegram) or join one of the Study Groups (Elena Danaan/ Alex Collier) or the group that notifies you of new articles: Galactic Anthropology
(15) Image taken from Unarium Wisdom


On Green-skinned People

Within this field of disclosure there are many concepts and ideas that are way off for the majority of people living on our world today. Everything related to intelligent extraterrestrial life is often still brushed off as ‘food for wacko’s‘. During the last two years I have opened up to what I consider the reality of extraterrestrial life and I was willing to accept many elements as possibly real which might seem outlandish for many. But even within this vast new territory I came across certain ideas that I preferred to ignore, at least for the time being, for it was even too odd for me.

Deviant Art by Vanmak3D (5)

One of those concepts was the one introduced by the Andromedans from Alex Collier about human beings who would have had green skin before a terrible nuclear event took place more than four hundred thousands of years ago. This nuclear war would have changed the colors of our skins (1).

But last month, Larry Fulmer, a contactee, was told by one of his contacts from the Inner Earth, that indeed, the original human beings on Earth would have had green skin. This immediately makes that claim turn more valuable, for, why would two contactees share this claim? It was enough reason for me to gather these two sources into an article on this.

ALEX COLLIER ON THE ORIGINAL GREEN SKIN OF HUMANS
In his book ‘Defending Sacred Ground’ (3) from 1996, Alex Collier speaks about green skinned people in the context of a great war. Read along with what he said:

“In your linear time of 3rd density measurement, of 439,231 rotations ago [years], war on a grave scale occurred in your Solar System. This aggression occurred against those on your worlds that included not only you Terrans, but also those called Nibiru. This invasion of your systems by Orion was led by a queen named Suttee. This (war) was destructive on many levels [frequencies) of physicality.

“We will focus tonight on your Terran physical form…. The last grave conflict was very harmful to your physical form. Many weapons of destruction, many of atom-splitting (nuclear weapons) have been used. This is the reason for most of your Terran skin tones. We shall explain…. Nibiru won, but only a short battle, before they and other outposts were forced to leave (the solar system) because of genetic damage. Your original races were green-skinned.

Symbol for Radioactivity (6)

This we know, because of large copper traces in your Terran 22 blood type (refers to the composite of human genetics which comprise genetic codes from 22 humanoid species). Also, the pituitary and thyroid (glands) were fully functional (at that time). The genetic damage to these organs was caused by (the) radioactivity in (the) air and all things of contact (on all things in the environment).

The air was like this for a long time. ” It (the radioactivity in the environment) caused the genetic memory of these organs (genetic memory of full-use capacity) being closed and almost atrophied (caused the function of the organs to shut down and the organs to atrophy).

Your world experienced drastic changes in climate and massive magnetic fluctuations. Your different skin tone races are a result of an edema damage to your blood (changes in blood chemistry). It was (then) necessary for survival to create self-sufficient and contained environmental habitats, (both) above and below the surface. (3, p.62)”

There’s not much that I can add to this. One might expect that the shrinking of the pituitary and thyroid glands might have had a huge impact on our level of awareness too, even though the pineal gland was not specifically mentioned, here. What is interesting that Alex also mentions the creation of habitats below the surface.

LARRY FULMER AND THE GREEN SKINNED HUMANS FROM INNER EARTH
In June 2023 I got into contact with Larry Fulmer (7) and a few weeks after that he started to get into more active (most of the time not physical) communication with people from the Inner Earth. You can read all about it at his YouTube site and his telegram channel (7). Two of his contacts live or lived in the Inner Earth. They both had green skin when they were alive. Let’s listen to a fragment in which he describes Hermes, a 6D human from the Inner Earth (20s):

Larry Fulmer introduces Hermes, a green-skinned human from Inner Earth (9)

In a video interview from July 20, 2023 (10), we can hear Larry say that he lived a life as an original (green-skinned) human, which would allow him to contact them at this moment. Many of these original people would have gone underground some 2 million years ago after the destruction of Maldek. There was also radioactivity involved that would have changed the color of the skins of the people on the surface. I will get into that aspect in a future article. I would like to stick to the color ‘green here.

DAN WINTER ON GREEN AND RED BLOOD
While thinking about green skin I was reminded by something that Dan Winter said in one of his interviews with Elena Danaan (11). It probably has nothing to do with the green people from Inner Earth, and Dan Winter can get carried away in his enthusiasm too. I will leave you with his theory about green and red blood. Was Osiris indeed depicted as green in Egypt? (49s)

Dan Winter talks about green and red blood (11)

It would say it is interesting to hear Dan say that Enki expected green-skinned people, but was surprised to find people with red blood. I also remember having heard that the Eben that would have landed here in the 1950s would have had blood based on chlorophyl too (12). If you have got more info on this, don’t hesitate to comment below this article, contact me, or join the Galactic Anthropology Library (2).

THE MURDRAT FROM VATUUKAT
In Elena Danaan’s 2024 Encyclopedia Galactica (14) she also mentions a green humanoid species that used to live in the underground. Not on our planet, but on a planet called Vatuukat somewhere in the Auriga constellation (see 14, p.173). In that book she writes: “The Murdrat are indigenous human species of unknown origin, who appeared one day from the inner realms of the planet. The Murdrat are green skin, geen hair and golden eyes humanoids. They are much involved in the life and economy of the planet, working closely with the Vyn and the Taal. Murdrat have powerful psychic powers, use telepathy to manipulate other beings’ mind and some of them can even alter space-time reality” (14, p.173)

The Murdrat were introduced in Star Nation News, episode 60 in January 2025 (15)

THE MOREKAT FROM THE CANCER CONSTELLATION
A humanoid green-skinned species can also be found on the planet Luyu in the Leyka Ta System in the Cancer constellation. These people are called Morekat (14, p.264-265). Their green skin would be the result of the “…manganese and copper rich waters, atmosphere and base food source” (14, p.265). Elena presented the Morekat in a Star Nation News episode from April 2025 (16) . Here’s the relevant excerpt:

On the Morekat (16)

ON SKIN COLOR AND HEMOGLOBIN
On July 18, 2025, Elena Danaan posted something related to the color of the skin and the composition of the blood (17).

Green skin color is quite a common occurrence in the universe through many cultures, and is due to sulfhemoglobin, a modified form of hemoglobin that contains sulfur. Contrarily to blue blood, also frequent, that is composed of a copper-based protein called hemocyanin. In both cases, skin shades can vary in intensity from pale to intense, regarding genetic markers.” (17)

FOOTNOTES
(1) What really happened 439 thousand years ago? Two Conflicting Accounts
(2) The Galactic Anthropology Library (Telegram) or join one of the Study Groups (Elena Danaan/ Alex Collier) or the group that notifies you of new articles: Galactic Anthropology
(3) Defending Sacred Ground – Below is a video in which Alex also talks about this. This excerpt is from a video that was recorded in november 1996. I posted it already in the context of the two conflicting accounts surrounding 439 thousand years ago (1) (almost 2 minutes)

Alex Collier talks about green-skinned people (4)

(4) Andromeda Council – Alex Collier 1996 – ( Part 1-2) – Deutsch subtitles (HQ). (starts from about 31β€²)
(5) Deviant Art
(6) Dreamstime
(7) I created a topic called ‘The Larry Fulmer Files‘ in the Elena Danaan Study Group in June 2023. You can read that thread here. Since then Larry has left the group and he removed a few items from this thread. There’s also another thread in which I analyze one of his talks with Hermes (8). He has a youtube channel and he started his own (telegram) group at LarryFulmerChat. . I was part of that group a couple of days before I was booted by Larry. Despite that I still think that Larry’s material is interesting to study and compare with other sources. I take a neutral position to his work. I have learned that studying this material implies looking beyond the personalities with their funny ways. And for the record, I have got my own funny ways as well πŸ™‚
(8) Exploring Larry Fulmer Videos – This thread is filled with lots of links to other articles on this website. By the way, you can find another excerpt from the Larry Fulmer material at (13).
(9) Loqma Green skinned Original human
(10) INNER WORLD CONVERSATION WITH LARRY FULMER AND DR. K PART 1 (fragment lasts a minute and a half).

Larry and Karen speak to Sarge Sovereign on green-skinned people (10)

(11) THE NINE: Diving into the origins with Dan Winter ~ Feb 23 2022 (6pm EST) (see at about 1h04′)
(12) I wrote a piece on the Eben at Genetic Experiments and Cloning on Planet Serpo by the Peacful Eben
(13) How Marduk became the Ruler of Saturn
(14) Danaan, E. (2024) Encyclopedia Galactica part I
(15) STAR NATION NEWS 60 ~ 13 01 2025
(16) STAR NATION NEWS 73 ~ 28 04 2025
(17) Telegram Post Elena Danaan – Copy in GA Study Group