In the latest article on this site Elena Danaan and Tony Rodrigues talked about their experiences with traveling through stargates (1). This article uses more information from this same interview in which they both also described their encounters with a Nebula (2).
THE CARINA NEBULA In the video excerpt below Elena says that she passed through that particular stargate behind Jupiter to arrive within the Carina Nebula. You can see an image of the Carina Nebula that was made by the James Webb telescope (4).
The Carina Nebula is part of the Carina star constellation that can be seen from the southern part of our world, from countries like Brazil (5). In the star map in the links-section below you can see that the Nebula is near Eta Carinea in the so-called ‘diamond cross’ of the constellation (6,7) and near Vela which you might recognize as the homebase of the Kiily Tokurt (8).
In the video Elena expresses her wonder of the beauty of this nebula and that her mind was uncapable of really grasping what she saw, since something might seem pretty close, but it could easily be hundreds of lightyear away.
Elena Danaan describes what she experienced within the Carina Nebula (from 2, 3’44”)
In november 2025 I wrote a page that features a few species from the Carina Nebula (16), as they appear in Elena Danaan’s second volume of Encyclopedia Galactica (17).
CHANGING COLORS One of the fascinating things that she describes is that she perceived the colors of certain parts of the nebula differently depending on how she looked at them. When she looked straight at a certain part of the nebula that had a grape-shaped cloud she saw colors like blue, red and bright brown, but when she turned her head a bit and looked with the corner of her eye the cloud changed color and turned brown and gray.
When you have been working with this kind of information for over a year your mind tends to present galactic associations more often, as it did this time. When talking about changing colors I couldn’t help but think of the changing colors of the eyes of the Andromedans as was described by Alex Collier (13).
This perceptual difference in registering certain parts of the nebula was recognized by Tony Rodrigues. He wrote about it in his marvellous book (14) and he described it in the video. I cut out the relevant part which you can see below:
Tony Rodrigues talks about how he and his crew members perceived the same nebula differently (2)
In the fragment Tony says that ‘Nebulas let you know how crappy human eyes are‘. He said that certain if not most members couldn’t see any colors when they looked out into the nebula in Orion’s Trapezium (15), but he was glad he was able to see the color red. Somehow it depended on who was watching.
Amazing experiences, I would say. If you have also visited a nebula lately (or passed through a stargate for that matter), please don’t hesitate to comment below.
Carina pie of the sky with the Carina Nebula (11)
LINKS (1) Experiencers describe going through a Stargate (2) EXPLOSIVE NEW INTEL – NEBULA’S, REMOTE VIEWING, MILITARY OPS – ELENA, JEAN-CHARLES, TONY R, CHRIS O’CONNOR – December 11, 2022 (3) The Large Picture Blog (4) Does James Webb Telescope Image of Jupiter show Galactic Vessels? – We are waiting for the moment when James Webb will finally show the world the existence of intelligent life by measuring carbon dioxide in the air and possibly by seeing artificial lights on the night’s sky of planets. According to Elena one of the candidates is the planet of the Tengri-tengri called Trappist 1. See Who are the Tengri for more information on this. (5) In december 2022 I started a Brazilian version of this website called Brazileiros Galácticos. Depending on its popularity I will add more (automatically) translated pages there. (6) See the map on the right-hand side. This is a map of part of the southern sky. You can find the Carina Nebula in the red circle on the left, near Eta Carinae. Just above this area in the sky you may notice the presence of Vela. We have come across a species that has their residence in that part of the sky, namely the Kiily Tokurt (8) who live on a planet orbiting Suhail and are part of the ‘League of the Hairless’ (9) and the Alliance of the Six (10). (7) The constellation Carina can be seen by the naked eye from the Southern Hemisphere and it looks like this:
The Kiily-Tokurt are a species from the star system Vela. Their world is called ‘Kiila’, which is a planet near the star ‘Suhail’. Tokurt is the name of their race (1).
Image 1 – This map was shown by Elena in video (2) at 57’08”. You can also find it in her book (1) at page 334.
As you can see in the map on the left hand side, you can track the star by starting from the belt of Orion, and extend the line to Sirius and then take a bend of about 30 degrees where you meet Suhail. It would be hard to see this star from the Northern hemisphere.
Elena Danaan dedicated a 2 hour Q&A to the Kiily Tokurt in May 2021 (2).
” These Kiily-Tokurt are 6ft tall beings, living up to 200 years and would be one of the oldest races in this galaxy. They are not members of the Galactic Federation of Worlds, although we are trying hard to get them in, in order to oblige them to behave.
They are very good shapeshifters, and they one thing that gives them away is the aspect of their eyes, which are wide and obsidian dark. Their true appearance is like tall grey-humanoids, but they are in fact of reptiloid genetics, and have very pale skin, nearly white. That is why your people calles them sometimes ‘Tall Whites’.” (Danaan, 1, p.292)
Image 3 – Snapshot from video at 57’55” (also in the book at p.293)
They are said to reproduce through external eggs. Danaan showed a drawing of a Kiily-Tokurt prisoner in the abovementioned Q&A-video at 58’10” (2). Here’s a screenshot from this video (image 2)
Image 2 – A Kiily Tokurt merchant who was taken for a prisoner
They are not really benevolent towards humans: although they would not have participated in hybridation programs, they abduct humans for slave trade and the food market. Their ships are eloingated black triangle with three corner lights, as drawn in the picture below (image 3)
In that particular video Elena also shows a computer generated image, which she says, really looks a lot like them. See image 4 for this impression of them.
As they are able to shapeshift, they can look a lot like humans, which you can see in the impression (images 5 to 7). Their skin would have the color of someone nearly dead, that pale.
Image 5 was drawn by Elena Danaan. This is how a Kiily Tokurt could look like.
AREA 51 and the Kiily Tokurt In an article by Dr. Michael Salla you can read about the Kiily Tokurt. In the recent cleaning up of the alien groups by the Galactic Federation the Tokurts would have been removed from Area 51, which would have been a long-time base for them. Val Nek (3) responds to a question by Dr. Salla
Later, Val Nek gave additional information in response to Q1.
” Q1: VN: I would like to add that the Dulce base and Area 51 were the last to be cleared due to high ranking grey residents from the Orion group. These beings carried a master frequency that was necessary to hack their consciousness and the internet systems of Terra. Area 51, for a long time, has been used as a base by the Killy Tokurt, or Tall Whites, specifically, and officials of the corrupt Terran government. These beings, I can report, a small number of them, were also captured for a similar purpose. The Killy Tokurt have connections to the Terran government. The Killy Tokurt, for a very long time, have offered certain services to Terran governments, which I will not disclose, but is part of the extraterrestrial infiltration. I can report that this information is recovered and we are working diligently alongside the alliance.” (4)
Image 4 – A CGI-impression of the Kiily Tokurt with shape shifting skills (2, 58″51′)
Image 7 – Kiily Tokurt looking like a human being. Screenshot from 2 (1h00’22”)
Image 5 – A made up drawing by Elena Danaan (screenshot from video, 1h01m34s)
Image 6 – Impression of a female Kiily-Tokurt (1h01m16s)
The Kiily-Tokurt would have been part of the Orion Group that made that desastrous deal with the MJ-12-group back in 1954, behind president Eisenhower’s back.
If you want to learn more about these beings watch te complete Q&A by Elena Danaan.
Update September 2022: In her third book Elena describes a race from the Andromeda Galaxy, the Ethereans who live in a star system called Maaru. They are said to be the root race for the Kiily Tokurt who are Etherian-Gray hybrids (5,6).
Update December 2022: In december 2022 Elena visited the Carina Nebula which is part of the Carina constellation which borders the Vela part of the night’s sky. Find out more at (9)
KIILY TOKURT DISTANCE THEMSELVES FROM THE CIAKAHRR (DEC 2023) In Star Nation News, episode 10 (10), Elena Danaan talks about developments relating to the position of the Kiily Tokurt in alliances. After the dismantlement of the Alliance of the Six (11) they ‘formally denied any actual or future cooperation with the Ciakahrr empire…They are Intergalactic merchants and they do no nourish any appetite for conquest. The Kiily Tokurt Government officially declared their independence as a civilization for eons to come….The Kiily Tokort are affirming themselves as an independent space fairing nation that will not repeat their errors of the past” (10)
Elena Danaan on the Kiily Tokurt (10)
CHARLES JAMES HALL AND TALL WHITES In a 2020 documentary (17), the contactee Charles Hall, talks about the Tall Whites. He has written a number of books about his experiences, including with other species (18,19). Could those Tall Whites perhaps be the Kiily Tokurt? It was this question that Dr. Michael Salla posed Elena Danaan back in 2021 (20).
Dr. Salla and Elena Danaan talk about Charles Hall, Tall Whites and the Kiily Tokurt (20)
Based on the images shown in the video above, Elena Danaan was sure they were indeed the Kiily Tokurt. Charles Hall also mentioned that their ships were seen going to their homeworld in the Southern hemisphere, which also matches with the location of the Vela star system as the home world of the Kiily Tokurt (17). He did however say that they would live 600 to 800 years, which is different from the 200 years lifespan that we were told of by Elena Danaan (21). The meetings between Hall and the Kiily Tokurt took place in the 1960s.
A KIILY TOKURT MERCHANT HELPS THE GFW TO TRACK DOWN SHIPS OF NEBU HYBRIDS On October 7, 2024 (22) we received news on the ships with hybrid children that went missing after the destruction of the Nebu hive queen (23). The thing that makes it special is that a Kiily Tokurt merchant would have contacted the Galactic Federation of Worlds (24) to disclose the location of these ships. The reason for him to do so was obvious: one of his own sons was aboard one of those ships. The ships would have been tracked down and the children would be safe. Below you can watch a short excerpt from the 49th episode of Star Nation News.
Elena Danaan shares the update on the Kiily Tokurt merchant and the missing hybrid children (22)
SOME FINAL COMMENTS If you want to chat with others about these Kiily Tokurt and learn more about them, there is a separate topic at the Galactic Anthropology Study Group (12) dedicated to them. There you can find more information about the contactee Charles Hall and even Edward Snowden would have mentioned them. Gene Decode also named the Kiily Tokurt in a January 5, 2024 interview on the Journey to Truth Podcast (13,14)
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