The Wingmakers and their Warning for a Threat from Synthetic Beings

A piece of Wingmakers art from Chamber 8 (14)

Back in March 2022 I wrote a post on the intriguing material related to the Wingmakers (1). You may remember that account that was based on a couple of interviews that were done by someone called Dr. Anderson and a journalist called Anne (2). Dr. Anderson told Anne that he was part of a secret government agency called ‘ACIO’ (Advanced Contact Intelligence Organization) that studied the Wingmakers material, including some disc with certain specific information. These Wingmakers were supposed to have come from some 750 years in the future (1).

For more of an introduction I recommend reading the article from 2022 first (1). This current article focuses on a passage of the interview related to a certain species that the Wingmakers would have warned us for. The reason for picking this particular passage can be found in some discussion that took place between Dr. Salla, Dan Winter and me, Joost, the author of this website. This discussion provides a good opportunity to once again look into the Wingmakers material, and the interesting intricacies related to it.

DAN WINTER AND DR. SALLA ON THE WINGMAKERS
An important aspect for anyone seriously studying the Wingmakers material is that there are two versions of the interviews: the original one and a manipulated one (3). In the summer of 2025 Dr. Salla posted an interview (6) he did with Dan Winter (7-13). Let’s first listen to a relevant excerpt from that interview:

Michael Salla and Dan Winter on the Wingmakers (6)

In the above excerpt we can hear Dr. Salla talk about the ‘Ethortans’ who are a species that are part of the swaruu-perspective (15). Dan Winter expresses his love for the Wingmakers material and he makes an interesting link between Old Hungarian and Draco. Furthermore he talks about ‘Blank Slate Technology’ that is an important element within the interviews. As Winter explains this technology would allow people to be able to wipe the memories of people within the secret space programs (16). According to the information from Jason Rice, the ‘Antarctic Germans’ would have held this technology way before the Deep State finally got their hand on it in 1979 by stealing it from the Germans (17).

ON THE ANIMUS
In the description of the interview Dr. Salla writes: “Winter believes that the leadership of the Galactic Federation of Worlds has been compromised by malevolent interstellar AI he refers to as “Etorthans” who are shapeshifters and appear to be the same Animus described in the Wingmakers material. Winter rightly points to the infiltration problems with AI experienced by secret space programs and extraterrestrials more generally.

In a X-post from July 13, 2025 (18) we can hear Dr. Salla say the following as an introduction to a video of the so-called ‘WHY-Files’ (5, 19):

Finally, the solution to a possible future AI invasion (the Animus) would have involved some variations of changing time and upgrading human consciousness so the Animus would not be able to assimilate us. This is very relevant today given the rise of AI and its connection to off-world manifestations.

NO ANIMUS IN THE ORIGINAL TEXT
When I heard both Dr. Michael Salla and Dan Winter talk about the ‘Animus‘, I decided to check the original version of the Wingmakers material to see if they mentioned the Animus at all. Instead of reading it all I asked Grok to do it for me and to check if the word ‘Animus’ appeared, and the answer was negative. It did, however, appear in the manipulated variant (20).

Fred Burks. screenshot from (21)

JEFF BURKS ON THE STRANGE APPEARANCE OF THE WORD ANIMUS IN THE MANIPULATED VERSION
Jeff Burks (21) is the creator of the original wingmakers website and a website called ‘Wanttoknow.info‘ (22). He also noticed the absence of the word ‘Animus’ in the original text.

He writes: “The original interviews talk about an alien race (called the animus in the changed interviews) which is from a galaxy 2.6 million light years away. In the changed interviews, the distance is changed to 37 million light years. In the original interviews, the Corteum is described as coming from a planet 15,000 light years away. In the changed version, this number is changed to 15 million. Why would someone go to the trouble of changing these distances if they were only “additions” to the story? Could it be that someone doesn’t want us to look on star charts and figure out which solar systems and galaxies are involved? (23)

FALSE USE OF ‘ANIMUS’ BY DR. SALLA AND DAN WINTER?
All the above information on the Animus was enough for me to conclude that both Dr. Salla and Dan Winter were wrong when they talked about some evil race called the Animus that would have been mentioned in the Wingmakers. I had an extensive discussion about this with Winter (13) and I told him that he was basing his theories on the false and distorted version of the Wingmakers material, which was placing the Wingmakers material in a bad light. I said this as well to Dr. Salla in his chat group (24).

NOVEMBER 2025 DEVELOPMENT AND A SYNTHETIC RACE
In November 2025, Dr. Salla contacted me to respond to my criticism regarding the use of Animus by him. I was surprised to hear that although the word Animus was not used in the original version, certain synthetic species were mentioned; read along (from the original wingmakers website):

About all I can tell you is that we know — from both the prophecies and our remote viewing technology — a significant amount of information about this race.

“For example, we know that it hails from a galaxy that our Hubble telescope has examined as thoroughly as possible and we’ve charted it as extensively as possible. We know that it is 2.6 million light years away and that the species is a synthetic race — a mixture of genetic creation and technology. It possesses a hive mentality, but individual initiative is still appreciated as long as it is aligned with the explicit objectives of its leaders. “Because it is a synthetic race, it can be produced in a controlled environment and its population can be increased or decreased depending on the whims of its leaders. It is . . . “

“The aliens that are coming desire to own this planet and add it to its colonization plans. As I’ve already mentioned, this is a synthetic race. A species that can clone itself and fabricate more and more of its population to serve the purpose of its colonization program. However, it desires more diversity, and earth will represent an opportunity for it to diversify.”(2)

SOME REFLECTIONS
When you watch the sensationalist video from WHY-Files (5) you get a description of the animus as androids who are AI-driven who are longing to have souls. In the original text there is no mention of soulless AI-driven Animus. Although I initially thought there wasn’t even any mention of a synthetic race, Dr. Salla directed me to a part that did talk about a (bio-) synthetic race as it was mentioned by Dr. Anderson in the Wingmakers interviews.

Crop Circle with binary (ASCII) message (27,31)

Who would that species be? We need to remember that these interviews were from the end of the 21th century. As Jeff Burks suggested, perhaps we can determine who these species are, by looking for planets that are 2,6 million light years away from us? Who exactly warned them for this species? Was this information from that disc? Could they have been referring to the Nebu (26), although most of them are not synthetic? He explicitly used the word ‘hive’ to describe them. It also reminds me of that warning for the arrival of the Grays from the Emerther in that famous crop circle (27).

For now I prefer to think that these Wingmakers were indeed warning us for this Nebu Gray collective that would indeed have had plans to colonize our world and replace humanity with their hybrids. These plans would have been prevented and the Nebu would have been fully neutralized (28,29). In that case there would be no reason to worry about this warning.

SOME WORDS FOR DR. SALLA AND DAN WINTER
As to the question whether I was right to state that Dr. Salla and Dan Winter were wrong in claiming that the Wingmakers material talks about the Animus and a synthetic AI-threat, the answer is multifaceted: I falsely accused them of saying that there was no word on a dangerous (bio-)synthetic race in the Wingmakers. There apparently is such a reference. They, however, were wrong in using the term Animus for this species, because it’s not part of the original interview. The sensationalist use of Animus in the WHY-video with words like ‘soulless’ and ‘AI-threat’ allegedly based on the Wingmakers material, is also way over the top. This might have influenced my stance as well.

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FOOTNOTES
(1) The Timecapsules of the Wingmakers
(2) Transcript of Interviews Wingmakers (original website)
(3) Here’s a quote from the original website:

Special Note: The above is a copy of the introduction page to the ACIO (Advanced Contact Intelligence Organization) on the original WingMakers website. Should you explore the current WingMakers website at wingmakers.com, be aware that it has changed in many ways from its original form. The ACIO story there has been seriously distorted to the point of being disinformation. For further information on how the website has been changed, click here. (4)
(4) https://www.wingmakers.us/wingmakersorig/acio/www.wingmakers.com/arrow/acio/acio1.shtml
(5) Project Ancient Arrow | The NSA’s Secret War Against Our Future
(6) Has the Galactic Federation of Worlds leadership been compromised by AI?
(7) The physicist Dan Winter appears a few times on this website, especially because of a number of interviews he did with Elena Danaan (8,9).
(8) On Lovingly Connecting with Someone Else
(9) On Green-skinned People
(10) Enki Shows Elena Danaan a Vajra with Plasma Beams
(11) On Jesus, Jehovah, the Hoova and Thiaoouba
(12) The Taal-Shiar and the Swaruu A.I.
(13) Thread on Dan Winter and Anton Parks in the Galactic Anthropogy Study Group (see the discussion starting from July 29, 2025)
(14) Chamber 8
(15) The Etherians – In this article you can find a link to this other species called the ‘Ethortans’ at footnote 22.
(16) Age Regression by 20 Years – 20 Years and Back – Testimonies by various SSP Recruits.
(17) The Antarctic Germans – An Overview
(18) https://t.me/michaelsallaofficial/93244
(19) Here’s a relevant (and quite sensational) excerpt on the ‘Animus’ from the WHY-files episode (5) that Dr. Salla refers to in the July 13, 2025, telegram post (18):

The WHY-files on the Wingmakers and Animus (5)

(20) Grok Answer to my question to find the word ‘Animus’ both in the original and in the manipulated variant
(21) The Wingmakers Controversy: Time Travel, ACIO & Extraterrestrial Threats
(22) Wanttoknow.info
(23) Changes to WingMakers Interviews: Comparison of Original and Changed Interviews
(24) Telegram Group of Dr. Salla
(25) Manipulated Interviews from second website
(26) The Nebu and the Alliance of the Six
(27) Crop Circles and Binary Messages
(28) And the Lights went Out for the Nebu
(29) The Discovery of Many Millions of Hybrids in a Deserted Galactic Hideout
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(31) https://www.cropcircleconnector.com/articles/09052016/09052016.html

The Etherians

It was a post by Dr. Salla (1) on a video on the Greada Treaty on the YouTube channel ‘Why Files’ (2) that brought me to writing this article on the Etherians. It seemed that these species were mentioned in a letter from 1954 by a man called Gerald Light. What to make of this? Are these the same species that are also described by Elena Danaan? Let’s take a (short) dive into this matter.

Impression of presented spacecraft (based on lettter G. Light, screenshot from 2)

WHY FILES
This is the first mention of this project called ‘Why Files’ on this website. On their youtube channel you can read the following description: “The Why Files is a channel for people who are fascinated (obsessed) with mysteries, myths, legends and conspiracies. We tell stories, seek the truth, and have a few laughs along the way.” (3) The channel has got 5 million followers which makes it an interesting party when it comes to reaching more people with disclosure like topics.

I personally liked the way they respectfully and critically introduced the account surrounding the ‘Greada Treaty’ that would have been agreed upon between President Eisenhower and a few nasty Gray like species, probably the Eban (4) from the Alliance of the Six (5).

THE GERALD LIGHT LETTER
In the Why Files video (2) a letter is presented from Gerald Light (6). He claims to have been in Muroc Airbase, which was later renamed to Edwards Air Force Base, near Lancaster in California (7) at the time when a number of advanced spaceships were displayed inside. What struck me as a ‘galactic anthropologist’ in that letter from April 1954 was that he mentioned the Etherians (8):

During my two days’ visit I saw five separate and distinct types of aircraft being studied and handled by our Air Force officials — with the assistance and permission of the Etherians! I have no words to express my reactions.”

GERALD LIGHT AND PROJECT ETHERIA
Gerald Light wrote this letter to Meade Layne who was associated with Project Etheria (9). He wrote a few other letters to mr. Layne (9, fourth section) where he describes his world view. Although he doesn’t seem to write it clearly it does seem that Light’s ‘Etherians’ are somehow connected to the etheric planes, which he defines in a rather unique way. I could find a a description of one of the Etherians he says to have met:

.. (Encounter with one of the Higher Etherians): “This Being bore but slight resemblance to a human man. A single, solitary eye blazed in his forehead. It pierced me to the quick of my soul. The ‘eye’ was more than an eye. It is the one thing I remember most clearly about this astonishing personage from worlds beyond our own, This Eye, which seemed almost a composite brain in itself, was perfectly round and divided into hundreds, perhaps thousands of facets or surfaces, somewhat like a multicolored jewel. (11)

Then I found a definition on ‘Etheria’ from Meade Layne that goes to show that their Etheria is really not associated with a star system or a planet: “Etheria is here — if we know what here means! Along‐side, inside, outside of our world. Because our world, that is, the so‐called dense matter of the objects in our world, is a rarefaction. It is spaced out like a vast net — a net with enormous meshes” (12).

Etherians from the Elena Danaan Corpus (10)

ELENA DANAAN AND THE ETHERIANS
After acquainting myself with what people like Gerald Light and Meade Layne regarded to be ‘Etherians’ it is becoming clear that there is no similarity with the Etherians from the Elena Danaan material. You can see her Etherians on the cover of her book ‘Encyclopedia Galactica’ (10).

The Etherians of Elena Danaan are physical beings, having two eyes. They would have shape-shifting abilities, but limited to changing between a Gray or a humanoid look. Elena’s books also present illustrations of the humanoid looking Etherians.

What is interesting is that these Etherians, who are part of the Intergalactic Confederation (14), and originate in the Andromeda Constellation, who not only have donated their genetics to the original blueprint (15), but they would also have introduced themselves to our world governments in the 1940s. They are categorized as being part of the ‘Tall Greys’ (that encompasses both malevolent and benevolent species).

They are said to be the root race for the Kiily Tokurt (16), and just like their off-spring they are involved in commercial interactions with many other civilizations. They even had business dealings with “groups such as the Nachtwaffen (17,18) on Ceres and Luna, as well as on the now-defunct interplanetary Corporate Conglomerate” (10, p.10) (19). You can get to know more about them in the Encyclopedia Galactica .

ETHERIANS, ELARTHIANS AND ETHORTIANS
Just like it can be a bit confusing to distinguish between the Ashtar Galactic Command and the Ashtar Collective (20), you can easily mix up a few species whose names look a bit like each other. The Etherians are discussed here, the winged Elarthians are another species from the Intergalactic Confederation (14) that are said to have a base on the Jovian Moon Europa (21), and then there are the Ethortians, a species that is mainly known in the Swaruu Perspective (22).

ANNAX AND ETHORIANS
In videos from Elena’s early days we could hear Annax speaking through Elena. These videos from 2020 were often parts of interviews with Elisa Herrera, her QHHT therapist that triggered her memories (24). Here’s an excerpt where Annax answers a question on who genetically experimented with humanity.

Annax speaks mentions a species he calls the ‘Ethorians’ (25)

SOME REFLECTIONS
Personally I think it is a bit funny that these Etherians, as a Seeder Race, would have traded with a group like the Dark Fleet on Ceres. I also think it’s a bit odd that they are the root race of a rather dubious species like the Kiilly Tokurt (16). The fact that they can shapeshift adds to their strangeness. It does explain the shapeshifting qualities of the Kiily Tokurt, alright. Since they would have contributed to the original seeding by donating their genetics, some of might train themselves to wake up in the morning and look like a Gray. Just imagine connecting to your soul-family and then seeing these guys?

But despite their looks, they are described as benevolent. When it comes to Gerald Light, it seems that he has constructed a reality based on etheric realities, that can sometimes be a bit hard to follow, at least for me. I also notice that I am not really inclined to delve into all these structures that people have developed on their own, or with a group of people. That’s one of the reasons why I prefer to use the Elena Danaan material as a kind of ‘yardstick’, not because I think she is telling the absolute truth, but because I think it is the most comprehensive and galactically logical account we have at the moment.

And what to make of the comment by Annax? Who are these Ethorians? Would they simply be the same species as the Etherians? Would they be these Ethortans from the swaruunians? For now I prefer to think that the Ethorians are synonymous with the Etherians. It would be great, however, if Elena Danaan would one day share some thoughts on all these groups from this phonological group!

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FOOTNOTES
(1) https://x.com/MichaelSalla/status/1949490403897471262
(2) The Greada Treaty | America’s Alien Alliance | (STRIPPED)
(3) The Why Files
(4) Living near Betelgeuse in the Orion Constellation
(5) The Nebu (and the Alliance of the Six)
(6) Timestamp from (2) where you can see the original letter from Gerald Light
(7) Edwards Air Force Base
(8) Here’s a copy of the text of the letter, taken from Borderland Science:

” Gerald Light
10545 Scenario Lane
Los Angeles, California

Mr. Meade Layne
San Diego, California

My dear Friend: I have just returned from Muroc. The report is true — devastatingly true!

I made the journey in company with Franklin Allen of the Hearst papers and Edwin Nourse of Brookings Institute (Truman’s erstwhile financial advisor) and Bishop MacIntyre of L.A. (confidential names for the present, please).

When we were allowed to enter the restricted section (after about six hours in which we were checked on every possible item, event, incident and aspect of our personal and public lives), I had the distinct feeling that the world had come to an end with fantastic realism. For I have never seen so many human beings in a state of complete collapse and confusion, as they realized that their own world had indeed ended with such finality as to beggar description. The reality of the “other plane” aeroforms is now and forever removed from the realms of speculation and made a rather painful part of the consciousness of every responsible scientific and political group.

During my two days’ visit I saw five separate and distinct types of aircraft being studied and handled by our Air Force officials — with the assistance and permission of the Etherians! I have no words to express my reactions.

It has finally happened. It is now a matter of history.

President Eisenhower, as you may already know, was spirited over to Muroc one night during his visit to Palm Springs recently. And it is my conviction that he will ignore the terrific conflict between the various ‘authorities’ and go directly to the people via radio and television — if the impasse continues much longer. From what I could gather, an official statement to the country is being prepared for delivery about the middle of May.

I will leave it to your own excellent powers of deduction to construct a fitting picture of the mental and emotional pandemonium that is now shattering the consciousness of hundreds of our scientific “authorities” and all the pundits of the various specialized knowledges that make up our current physics. In some instance I could not stifle a wave of pity that arose in my own being as I watched the pathetic bewilderment of rather brilliant brains struggling to make some sort of rational explanation which would enable them to retain their familiar theories and concepts. And I thanked my own destiny for having long ago pushed me into the metaphysical woods and compelled me to find my way out. To watch strong minds cringe before totally irreconcilable aspects of “science” is not a pleasant thing. I had forgotten how commonplace things as dematerialization of “solid” objects had become to my own mind. The coming and going of an etheric, or spirit, body has been so familiar to me these many years I had forgotten that such a manifestation could snap the mental balance of a man not so conditioned. I shall never forget those forty-eight hours at Muroc!

G.L.”
(9) Project Etheria – Main page
(10) Danaan, E. (2024) Encyclopedia Galactica: part I (The Etherians feature on the cover of the book. You can also find them as the opening species on page 10-11)
(11) From Etheric Notes by Gerald Light: “.”.. (Encounter with one of the Higher Etherians): “This Being bore but slight resemblance to a human man. A single, solitary eye blazed in his forehead. It pierced me to the quick of my soul. The ‘eye’ was more than an eye. It is the one thing I remember most clearly about this astonishing personage from worlds beyond our own, This Eye, which seemed almost a composite brain in itself, was perfectly round and divided into hundreds, perhaps thousands of facets or surfaces, somewhat like a multicolored jewel. Surrounding this eye, which rested in the center of a large forehead, beautifully shaped and bordered with a kind of hair which looked more like fine metallic wires than ordinary hair, was a vivid circle of delicately contrived muscles. These were automatic in their action, similar to the pupil of a cat’s eye, expanding or contracting according to the requirements of the light. This Being stood easily twelve feet in height, yet the body was not as large as our standards of proportion would expect. He was slender, almost to the point of delicacy, yet for some reason I sensed that his weight was enormous. I had the impression that I was observing a man of granite or lead, rather than of flesh and blood . . . And in a manner I cannot try to explain here, I knew that he was the embodiment of the principles of Uranus, the planetary Power traditionally said to govern the Sign Aquarius and its cycles. He was the Aquarian-Uranian, the Power to Come.
(12) The Ether Ship Mystery And Its Solution
(13) Grok Response on similarities between Gerald Light’s and Elena Danaan’s take on the Etherians – See second question from this response. Here’s a conclusion that makes sense: “Light’s Etherians are interdimensional, occult-inspired beings from Etheria, tied to a specific 1954 encounter at Muroc Air Force Base, while Danaan’s Etherians are humanoid extraterrestrials who contributed to human DNA as part of the Intergalactic Confederation.
(14) The Intergalactic Confederation
(15) Our Intergalactic and Galactic Genomes
(16) The Kiily Tokurt
(17) The Antarctic Germans
(18) The Aldebaran Dark Fleet after the Fall of the Ciakahrr Empire
(19) The Interplanetary Corporate Conglomerate – A Look into the Past
(20) The Ashtar Galactic Command and the Ashtar Collective
(21) The Jovian Moon Europa and the Elarthians
(22) The Etorthans (Swaruu material)
(23)  Telegram groups: Galactic Anthropology (general updates), Galactic Anthropology Study Group (most active group with hundreds of separate discussion topics) Alex Collier and Andromedans Study Group and the Galactic Anthropology Library. Elena Danaan also has her own telegram channel and even her own open telegram chat group. Dr. Salla also runs a Telegram Group that even allows for discussion. In June 2025 another group emerged out of the Dr. Salla group that allows for all kinds of topics to be discussed in a topics-format: The Galactic Hub.
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(24) Since then Elena Danaan changed her perspective on both channeling and QHHT. More about that on her debunk page
(25) For some unknown reasons Elena has unfortunately decided to remove all interviews with Elisa Herrera. She has developed this habit of destroyed videos whenever there is some spat with the people involved. This is a disaster for any record keeper. For more on this see (26).
(26) On the Destruction of Disclosure Videos