During an interview on December 19, 2022 (1) both Tony Rodrigues, Rebecca Rose and Elena Danaan had something to say about an ancient civilization that would have been present in our solar system even before the arrival of the Pa’Taal or Seeders on our planet. This article presents a video-fragment in which all three talk about their experiences on Ceres, Mars and Saturn respectively with some explanatory background information.

REBECCA ROSE
It was Dr. Michael Salla who first introduced Rebecca Rose in an interview on November 14, 2022 (3). This was followed by an interview with Elena Danaan and Rebecca on December 11, and finally to the abovementioned interview about a week later with Tony added to the whole (1).
The first interview led to three articles on this website: one that dealt with the jump gates that were apparently used and initially by gifted children (5), one that talked about her time on the Ciakahrr planet in the Kuiper Belt (6) another one in which she elaborated on her time with the Mantids on Mars (7).
I was very happy to see a new face that shared her experiences in the secret space program. The more people that show up the stronger the case for the true existence of such a program, for those who still have doubts.
THE HIGHLY ADVANCED SPACE THE MANTIDS ON MARS LIVED IN
As was already said in the first interview with Dr. Michael Salla (3) Rebecca was impressed with the extremely advanced underground whereabouts of the Mantids that she had met during her missions on Mars (7). In the video below she again describes it. She also adds that she believed that it weren’t the Mantids that had made that place, but some older race that might be many million years old. She calls them the ‘Ancient Architects’. Listen not only to her, but also to Elena’s take on the existence of an ancient unknown race and Tony’s.
ELENA DANAAN AND SATURN
After Rebecca, Elena expanded on this topic and referred to her recent visit to Saturn in which she and Thor Han were given some kind of tour around Saturn by Enki, who prefers to be called Ea these days (8). The Anunnaki had apparently taken over Saturn millennia ago and it was forbidden theory for everyone else which was confirmed by Thor Han from the Galactic Federation of Worlds. Chris O’Connor said that there was a space station that was run by some United Nations group (9). Enki said that the surface and the space to the first ring was the sole domain of the Anunnaki and not for the kindest kind of Anunnaki.
During this trip Elena was told that Enki’s son Marduk was made the ruler of Saturn long ago and that he even sided with the Nebu (10,11).
Luckily many things have changed recently with the return of Enki and the Intergalactic Confederation (12,13,14), which made it possible for Elena to safely have this tour around Saturn. In the above fragment Elena talks about a certain area in the atmosphere of Saturn where all kinds of old city ruins were hanging in the sky due to some anti-gravity characteristic of the material that was used (18). Enki told her that this were the remains of a civilization that was in the solar system even way before the Seeders ever arrived and that neither the Anunnaki nor the Intergalactic Confederation have any idea who they were!

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TONY AND CERES GATES
The final testimony on these unknown ancient beings was given by Tony. He said that during his time on the planet Ceres, that is located in the Asteroid Belt, he saw huge doors that were about 700 meters wide and about 350 meters high.
Tony Rodrigues was told that these enormous stone walls were millions of years old and they still worked and that they were used as airlock doors.
In the video Elena Danaan added some more drawings that were made by Tony Rodrigues that depict Ceres (at around 23′-24′). Ceres was a hot bed for the German Space Program that we have gotten to know as the the Dark Fleet (15) or the Nacht Waffen. The planet was liberated in 2021 (16). To learn more about all the things that Tony experienced during his time on Ceres read his impressive book (17).
CONCLUSION
Based on the testimonies of both Tony Rodrigues, Rebecca Rose and Elena Danaan it appears likely that there indeed was some ancient civilization that has been present in our solar system on at least planets like Mars, Saturn and Ceres. If they are even unknown to the Anunnaki and the Seeder Races that would mean that must have been here before the arrival of the Seeders which was about some 65 million years ago. Who were they? What did they look like? Have they been present on Earth as well? Perhaps we will get to know more about them some day. Who knows, they might have left an ark on Earth as well.
UPDATE FEBRUARY 2024
A lot of new information is being provided about the Ancient Builder Race in episodes of Star Nation News. Take for example the information about the anti gravity matter (20) and news about a connection between these Builders and the core of our Moon (21,22). Corey Goode also mentioned these ancient Builder Race (23).
KOLDAS DEVELOPMENTS
In 2025 Elena Danaan released her book ‘Koldas: Beyond Neptune’ (24). The ancient Architects play a crucial role in this book. Out of respect for her, I will not disclose what she writes about these ancient builders. As a teaser I will give you a fragment from Star Nation News, episode 82 from July 2025 (25):
LINKS FOR FURTHER STUDY
(1) REBECCA ROSE & TONY RODRIGUES – Corroborating Experience on Mars ~ Dec 19 2022
(2) IL QUINTO ELEMENTO (1997)
(3) 20 Years as a Cyborg Supersoldier on Mars & Kuiper Belt.
(4) THE TWO SIDES OF A WAR ~ Meet the real Martians with Rebecca Rose (Dec 11, 2022)
(5) Using Children to Operate Jump Gates
(6) A Draco Planet in the Kuiper Belt
(7) The Off-World Mantids
(8) NEW SATURN INTEL – ELENA DANAAN & CHRIS O’CONNOR SHARE THEIR REAL TIME EXPERIENCES – IT IS TIME! – For some unknown reason Dani Henderson removed this very valuable video. We have been guessing for the reasons for this (19). It would be great if anyone would simply ask Dani the reason, so we don’t need to speculate on it. Another video with Chris O’Connor was also deleted. Why?
(9) The Interstellar Post on Saturn
(10) How Marduk became the Ruler of Saturn
(11) The Enlil Faction of the Anunnaki and the Saturn Agreement
(12) Enki’s Return and Activating Humanity’s 12 Stranded Adamic DNA Blueprint
(13) The Intergalactic Confederation
(14) Anu, Enlil and Enki and the Meeting with the Four Councils
(15) See Endnote 191 for more on Corey Good and the term Dark Fleet
(16) The Liberation of Ceres
(17) Rodrigues, T. (2021) Ceres Colony Cavalier. Amazon Press.
(18) Exploring Anti-Gravity Material
(19) The Galactic Anthropology Study Group – See topics ‘Chris O’Connor and Mimas’ and ‘Deleted Videos’
(20) Exploring anti-gravity Material
(21) STAR NATION NEWS Ep 18 ~ Feb 19 2024
(22) You can find transcripts of Ea and Thor Han on this element regarding the core of the Moon at Elena’s website.
(23) Removal of Traces of the Builder Race by Other Species
(24) Danaan, E. (2025) Koldas: Beyond Neptune
(25) STAR NATION NEWS 82 ~ 14 07 2025










