Dan Winter

The Wingmakers and their Warning for a Threat from Synthetic Beings

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A piece of Wingmakers art from Chamber 8 (14)

Back in March 2022 I wrote a post on the intriguing material related to the Wingmakers (1). You may remember that account that was based on a couple of interviews that were done by someone called Dr. Anderson and a journalist called Anne (2). Dr. Anderson told Anne that he was part of a secret government agency called ‘ACIO’ (Advanced Contact Intelligence Organization) that studied the Wingmakers material, including some disc with certain specific information. These Wingmakers were supposed to have come from some 750 years in the future (1).

For more of an introduction I recommend reading the article from 2022 first (1). This current article focuses on a passage of the interview related to a certain species that the Wingmakers would have warned us for. The reason for picking this particular passage can be found in some discussion that took place between Dr. Salla, Dan Winter and me, Joost, the author of this website. This discussion provides a good opportunity to once again look into the Wingmakers material, and the interesting intricacies related to it.

DAN WINTER AND DR. SALLA ON THE WINGMAKERS
An important aspect for anyone seriously studying the Wingmakers material is that there are two versions of the interviews: the original one and a manipulated one (3). In the summer of 2025 Dr. Salla posted an interview (6) he did with Dan Winter (7-13). Let’s first listen to a relevant excerpt from that interview:

Michael Salla and Dan Winter on the Wingmakers (6)

In the above excerpt we can hear Dr. Salla talk about the ‘Ethortans’ who are a species that are part of the swaruu-perspective (15). Dan Winter expresses his love for the Wingmakers material and he makes an interesting link between Old Hungarian and Draco. Furthermore he talks about ‘Blank Slate Technology’ that is an important element within the interviews. As Winter explains this technology would allow people to be able to wipe the memories of people within the secret space programs (16). According to the information from Jason Rice, the ‘Antarctic Germans’ would have held this technology way before the Deep State finally got their hand on it in 1979 by stealing it from the Germans (17).

ON THE ANIMUS
In the description of the interview Dr. Salla writes: “Winter believes that the leadership of the Galactic Federation of Worlds has been compromised by malevolent interstellar AI he refers to as “Etorthans” who are shapeshifters and appear to be the same Animus described in the Wingmakers material. Winter rightly points to the infiltration problems with AI experienced by secret space programs and extraterrestrials more generally.“

In a X-post from July 13, 2025 (18) we can hear Dr. Salla say the following as an introduction to a video of the so-called ‘WHY-Files’ (5, 19):

“Finally, the solution to a possible future AI invasion (the Animus) would have involved some variations of changing time and upgrading human consciousness so the Animus would not be able to assimilate us. This is very relevant today given the rise of AI and its connection to off-world manifestations.”

NO ANIMUS IN THE ORIGINAL TEXT
When I heard both Dr. Michael Salla and Dan Winter talk about the ‘Animus‘, I decided to check the original version of the Wingmakers material to see if they mentioned the Animus at all. Instead of reading it all I asked Grok to do it for me and to check if the word ‘Animus’ appeared, and the answer was negative. It did, however, appear in the manipulated variant (20).

Fred Burks. screenshot from (21)

JEFF BURKS ON THE STRANGE APPEARANCE OF THE WORD ANIMUS IN THE MANIPULATED VERSION
Jeff Burks (21) is the creator of the original wingmakers website and a website called ‘Wanttoknow.info‘ (22). He also noticed the absence of the word ‘Animus’ in the original text.

He writes: “The original interviews talk about an alien race (called the animus in the changed interviews) which is from a galaxy 2.6 million light years away. In the changed interviews, the distance is changed to 37 million light years. In the original interviews, the Corteum is described as coming from a planet 15,000 light years away. In the changed version, this number is changed to 15 million. Why would someone go to the trouble of changing these distances if they were only “additions” to the story? Could it be that someone doesn’t want us to look on star charts and figure out which solar systems and galaxies are involved? (23)

FALSE USE OF ‘ANIMUS’ BY DR. SALLA AND DAN WINTER?
All the above information on the Animus was enough for me to conclude that both Dr. Salla and Dan Winter were wrong when they talked about some evil race called the Animus that would have been mentioned in the Wingmakers. I had an extensive discussion about this with Winter (13) and I told him that he was basing his theories on the false and distorted version of the Wingmakers material, which was placing the Wingmakers material in a bad light. I said this as well to Dr. Salla in his chat group (24).

NOVEMBER 2025 DEVELOPMENT AND A SYNTHETIC RACE
In November 2025, Dr. Salla contacted me to respond to my criticism regarding the use of Animus by him. I was surprised to hear that although the word Animus was not used in the original version, certain synthetic species were mentioned; read along (from the original wingmakers website):

“About all I can tell you is that we know — from both the prophecies and our remote viewing technology — a significant amount of information about this race.

“For example, we know that it hails from a galaxy that our Hubble telescope has examined as thoroughly as possible and we’ve charted it as extensively as possible. We know that it is 2.6 million light years away and that the species is a synthetic race — a mixture of genetic creation and technology. It possesses a hive mentality, but individual initiative is still appreciated as long as it is aligned with the explicit objectives of its leaders. “Because it is a synthetic race, it can be produced in a controlled environment and its population can be increased or decreased depending on the whims of its leaders. It is . . . “

… “The aliens that are coming desire to own this planet and add it to its colonization plans. As I’ve already mentioned, this is a synthetic race. A species that can clone itself and fabricate more and more of its population to serve the purpose of its colonization program. However, it desires more diversity, and earth will represent an opportunity for it to diversify.”(2)

SOME REFLECTIONS
When you watch the sensationalist video from WHY-Files (5) you get a description of the animus as androids who are AI-driven who are longing to have souls. In the original text there is no mention of soulless AI-driven Animus. Although I initially thought there wasn’t even any mention of a synthetic race, Dr. Salla directed me to a part that did talk about a (bio-) synthetic race as it was mentioned by Dr. Anderson in the Wingmakers interviews.

Crop Circle with binary (ASCII) message (27,31)

Who would that species be? We need to remember that these interviews were from the end of the 21th century. As Jeff Burks suggested, perhaps we can determine who these species are, by looking for planets that are 2,6 million light years away from us? Who exactly warned them for this species? Was this information from that disc? Could they have been referring to the Nebu (26), although most of them are not synthetic? He explicitly used the word ‘hive’ to describe them. It also reminds me of that warning for the arrival of the Grays from the Emerther in that famous crop circle (27).

For now I prefer to think that these Wingmakers were indeed warning us for this Nebu Gray collective that would indeed have had plans to colonize our world and replace humanity with their hybrids. These plans would have been prevented and the Nebu would have been fully neutralized (28,29). In that case there would be no reason to worry about this warning.

SOME WORDS FOR DR. SALLA AND DAN WINTER
As to the question whether I was right to state that Dr. Salla and Dan Winter were wrong in claiming that the Wingmakers material talks about the Animus and a synthetic AI-threat, the answer is multifaceted: I falsely accused them of saying that there was no word on a dangerous (bio-)synthetic race in the Wingmakers. There apparently is such a reference. They, however, were wrong in using the term Animus for this species, because it’s not part of the original interview. The sensationalist use of Animus in the WHY-video with words like ‘soulless’ and ‘AI-threat’ allegedly based on the Wingmakers material, is also way over the top. This might have influenced my stance as well.

Let me know what your thoughts are on this intriguing issue. Join our GA Study Group or subscribe (30).

FOOTNOTES
(1) The Timecapsules of the Wingmakers
(2) Transcript of Interviews Wingmakers (original website)
(3) Here’s a quote from the original website:

Special Note: The above is a copy of the introduction page to the ACIO (Advanced Contact Intelligence Organization) on the original WingMakers website. Should you explore the current WingMakers website at wingmakers.com, be aware that it has changed in many ways from its original form. The ACIO story there has been seriously distorted to the point of being disinformation. For further information on how the website has been changed, click here. (4)
(4) https://www.wingmakers.us/wingmakersorig/acio/www.wingmakers.com/arrow/acio/acio1.shtml
(5) Project Ancient Arrow | The NSA’s Secret War Against Our Future
(6) Has the Galactic Federation of Worlds leadership been compromised by AI?
(7) The physicist Dan Winter appears a few times on this website, especially because of a number of interviews he did with Elena Danaan (8,9).
(8) On Lovingly Connecting with Someone Else
(9) On Green-skinned People
(10) Enki Shows Elena Danaan a Vajra with Plasma Beams
(11) On Jesus, Jehovah, the Hoova and Thiaoouba
(12) The Taal-Shiar and the Swaruu A.I.
(13) Thread on Dan Winter and Anton Parks in the Galactic Anthropogy Study Group (see the discussion starting from July 29, 2025)
(14) Chamber 8
(15) The Etherians – In this article you can find a link to this other species called the ‘Ethortans’ at footnote 22.
(16) Age Regression by 20 Years – 20 Years and Back – Testimonies by various SSP Recruits.
(17) The Antarctic Germans – An Overview
(18) https://t.me/michaelsallaofficial/93244
(19) Here’s a relevant (and quite sensational) excerpt on the ‘Animus’ from the WHY-files episode (5) that Dr. Salla refers to in the July 13, 2025, telegram post (18):

The WHY-files on the Wingmakers and Animus (5)

(20) Grok Answer to my question to find the word ‘Animus’ both in the original and in the manipulated variant
(21) The Wingmakers Controversy: Time Travel, ACIO & Extraterrestrial Threats
(22) Wanttoknow.info
(23) Changes to WingMakers Interviews: Comparison of Original and Changed Interviews
(24) Telegram Group of Dr. Salla
(25) Manipulated Interviews from second website
(26) The Nebu and the Alliance of the Six
(27) Crop Circles and Binary Messages
(28) And the Lights went Out for the Nebu
(29) The Discovery of Many Millions of Hybrids in a Deserted Galactic Hideout
(30)  Telegram groups: Galactic Anthropology (general updates), Galactic Anthropology Study Group (most active group with hundreds of separate discussion topics) Alex Collier Study Group and the Galactic Anthropology Library. Elena Danaan also has her own telegram channel and even her own open telegram chat group. Dr. Salla also runs a Telegram Group. Do you want to help with studying the Deep State? Join the Gondolath Globalist Narratives Study Group or visit the website: Gondolath Project. You can also follow the alternative side of current events at the Laura Aboli Archive. We recently started a Diddy and Epstein group as well. Galactic Anthropology tries to spread both the disclosure information and the Deep State Explorations at Facebook, X (Twitter), on VK, Youtube and on TikTok. Hope to see you soon in one of the groups! Like, share and subscribe.
(31) https://www.cropcircleconnector.com/articles/09052016/09052016.html

The Urmah

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In these galactic anthropological realms it is far from easy to find corroboration on the existence of various species from different sources, except for species like the ‘Nordics’ (1), the Ciakahrr (2,3), the Grays (4-6) and the Kiily Tokurt (7). This article describes yet another example that is mentioned by different sources, namely the feline Urmah. Below you can here some information on them, not only from Elena Danaan, but also from Swaruu, Anton Parks and a group called the Gaia Council. I want to thank the members of the Galactic Anthropology Group (8) for their contributions.

Creative Attempt to portray an Urmah (16)

THE URMAH FROM SIRIUS A – ELENA DANAAN
The Urmah can be found towards the end of Elena’s Encyclopedia Galactica (part I) (9). They are described as living on the seventh moon of the fifth planet orbiting Sirius A, locally known as Ashaara (10).

They are descendants from the Laan who fled during the Lyran Wars in the Man System (11,12). Elena writes: “They are a proud people who live by high ethical values such as respect, honor and honesty. The Urmah are actively involved in the Galactic Federation of Worlds’ (13) warfare and diplomatic activities throughout the Nataru galaxy (14). They are known and highly respected for their noble qualities, including their fearlessness and inability to lie or deceive.” (9, p.311)

THE URMAH FROM VEGA – SWARUU ACCOUNT
Within the Swaruu paradigm (17) the Urmah are also mentioned. They are described as coming from a planet called ‘Avyon’ in the Vega star system. They speak very highly of the Urmah: “Tied with the Urmah as the dominant race of virtually the entire galaxy. Merit for the kittens, because they are put on equal terms with a lizard over 10 meters high and
several tons of weight, being that they measure less than 3 meters and about 300 kg. Quietly knowing what they are, they impose like no other race.” (18,19).

In quite a number of videos you can listen to interviews with an Urmah and learn about their ways (20,21). They speak of a an Urmah spaceship that would be orbiting Earth (20). They talk about their anatomy and many other things.

ANTON PARKS ON THE UR-MAH
In the GA-Study Group we have elaborately spoken about Anton Parks (25). Here’s an introduction on Parks made by Grok: “Anton Parks, a Franco-German writer known for his Chronicles of the Gírkù series, describes the Urmah as a sophisticated and powerful extraterrestrial race with feline characteristics, integral to the mytho-historical narrative he constructs around ancient Sumerian texts and his alleged visions.” (26)

On a website run by Dan Winter (25,27) we can read the following description of the Urmah, based on Parks’ work. I present it without explaining all the terminology included in the quote. It is meant as a very short introduction to what Parks has to say on the Urmah.

UR-MAH (litt: “grand warrior”)
Discussion by Mamitu-Nammu, soon after the arrival with Sa’am and others on Uraš:
The Urmah are formidable warriors. They make up the principal militia of the Kadištu. When difficult situations must be disentangled, the Urmah are generally designated to restore order. We consider them as the army of heaven, sometimes as the soldiers of final resort. They can be quite ferocious. They will withdraw from combat only on request of the High Council. Their original home is found in Sipazianna (Orion) (32).

SOME REFLECTIONS
It is interesting to note that these feline-looking Urmah are mentioned in various sources. In the Alcheringa account we can also learn about brave lion-like warriors working for benevolent causes as well (33). Alexander from the Gaia Council (34,35) defines them as: “They are wisdom keepers & truth seekers & cannot be associated too much with any one group. They do collaborate as emissaries on occasions, & monitor Earth in stealth mode.”

Elena Danaan describes them as descendants from the Laan. There are a few articles on this website that explore the Laan a bit further, like their role in a war (with or against) the Anunnaki many hundreds of thousands year ago (36) and their role in Egypt (37).

It is obvious that this article only provides a short introduction to a few sources talking about the Urmah. There is a lot of study to be done for those who want to dive deeper into this topic. Whenever we learn more about the Urmah it will be added to this article. If you have found other interesting sources also providing information on the Urmah please contact me or join one of our groups (38).

FOOTNOTES
(1) The Good, the Bad and the Fake Nordics
(2) Clearing the Cradle of the Ciakahrr Empire in the Thuban Star System
(3) The Ciakahrr
(4) There are many species that look like the Grays, and not all of them are malevolent. The most notorious collective of Grays were the Nebu (5), who would have been destroyed as a collective, and returned to their own respective planets again (6).
(5) And the Lights went Out for the Nebu
(6) Living near Betelgeuse in the Orion Constellation
(7) The Kiily-Tokurt from Suhail (Vela)
(8) The Galactic Anthropology Study Group – A Place for Independent Galactic Researchers (Telegram)
(9) Danaan, E. (2024) Encyclopedia Galactica, part I (pp 330-331)
(10) Asherah from Ashaara – Reflections on Pleiadean Links
(11) The Kepler 62 ‘Man’ System in the Constellation of Lyra: Then and Now
(12) The War between the Laan and the Anunnaki
(13) The Galactic Federation of Worlds
(14) Nataru is the name used by the Galactic Federation of Worlds to describe our Milky Way Galaxy. If you want to learn more local names of stars see (15).
(15) The Real Names of Various Stars – How they are called by their own People
(16) https://creator.nightcafe.studio/creation/l5MQtw5HGtoN7D8w9fuu – I would have preferred to place an image that was produced by Elena Danaan from the Encyclopedia Galactica, but Elena can be rather strict when it comes to copyright. That’s why I came up with this alternative.
(17) I personally don’t like the swaruu material. I have spent some time analyzing one of the recent videos made by Gosia, and I have come to the conclusion that there are too many differences with the Elena Danaan paradigm that forms the basis of this website. One of the main problems I have with this perspective is that they portray the Galactic Federation of Worlds as a kind of galactic Deep state organization. This negative approach towards the GFW (13) fits closely with the account within the work of Elena Danaan, as you can read in the Taal-Shiar and Swaruu page (22): it would stem from people who used to hate the Galactic Federation of Worlds, because they would have been started by people from Erra (23), whom they consider as enemies. You can learn all about the backgrounds at (24).
(18) THE URMAH RACE – ORIGIN AND BIOLOGY – EXTRATERRESTRIAL CONTACT
(19) THE URMAH RACE – ORIGIN AND BIOLOGY – EXTRATERRESTRIAL CONTACT (youtube)
(20) Urmah Wisdom Revealed in Deep Conversation with Arishah of Avyon and Mari Swaruu
(21) The Urmah Interview, Arishah-Tiger, Part 1 ( English ) 
(22) The Taal-Shiar and the Swaruu A.I.
(23) Getting acquainted with the Ahil
(24) The Taal-Shiar from Alcyone / Jayha – History
(25) Dan Winter and Anton Parks – Thread in the Galactic Anthropology Study Group (Telegram)
(26) I don’t often quote an AI-chatbot, but this information was concise and useful within this context. Much of Anton Parks’ material seems to be in French. You can learn a bit more about him in this wikibin article for instance (27).
(27) Anton Parks on Wikibin
(28) Dan Winter has had quite a few interviews with Elena Danaan. Some of them appear on this website as well. See for instance (29-31). For those who like some disclosure community drama you can also learn more about Dan and Elena in the thread on (25).
(29) Enki Shows Elena Danaan a Vajra with Plasma Beams
(30) On Jesus, Jehovah, the Hoova and Thiaoouba
(31) On Green-skinned People from Earth (and a few from elsewhere)
(32) Quoted materials from books: Copyright 2006-2010 Anton Parks Commentary Copyright 2006-2014 Gerry Zeitlin – https://www.fractalfield.com/zeitlin/EndEnchantment/Secrets.html. I want to thank Kate from the GA-group for providing this link between Anton Parks and the Urmah.
(33) The Alcheringa Account by Valerie Barrow – Part 1 – The Destruction of the Rexegena – This article doesn’t really mention the lion-like species, but they play an important role in this intriguing account. You can find a link to the pdf in the above article. We also have an extended thread in the GA-group in which I walk you through the book. It’s quite an amazing read.
(34) In a GA-group thread you can learn a lot about this group calling themselves the ‘Gaia Council’. We mentioned them once before on this website at (35).
(35) The Ashtar Galactic Command and The Astral Cleansing of our Planet
(36) The War between the Laan and the Anunnaki
(37) Two or three Lion-like Species from the Stars: The Laan, The Paschats and yet Another?
(38) Telegram groups: Galactic Anthropology (general updates), Galactic Anthropology Study Group (most active group with hundreds of separate discussion topics) Alex Collier and Andromedans Study Group and the Galactic Anthropology Library. Elena Danaan also has her own telegram channel and even her own open telegram chat group.
(b) Want to help with studying the Deep State? Join the Gondolath Globalist Narratives Study Group or visit the website: Gondolath Project. You can also follow the alternative side of current events at the Laura Aboli Archive. We recently started a Diddy and Epstein group as well.
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(c) Also see the Inner Portal Project that explores the psychological/spiritual realms and my Crypto Explorations.

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Exploring the Work of Randy Cramer

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I was halfway writing a post on a particular TikTok video that recently surfaced in which Randy Cramer, a well-known SSP Super Soldier, appeared talking about a huge Space Station orbiting Jupiter in a 2020 interview with Emery Smith (1), when I noticed that the paragraph on Randy Cramer was becoming too long. Since I prefer to not introduce too many topics in one article I decided to first make this post on Cramer.

Randy Cramer (screenshot from 15)

RANDY CRAMER ON MARS
I have spoken about Randy Cramer a couple of times on this website. Randy Cramer, just like Tony Rodrigues and Penny Bradly, talked about this huge human Martian city called Aries Prime (2,3,4). He was a military man in the military department of the base, called Forward Station Zebra. Just like Elena Danaan has said he talks of two kinds of beings on Mars: the Reptoids (5) and the insectoids (6). Cramer says that he was surprised to find out that the air on Mars is breathable.

Dr. Michael Salla already posted a number of interviews with Randy Cramer back in 2014 (7). Cramer was using the pseudonym ‘Captain K’ in those days. Let’s look at Dr. Salla and his ExoNewsTv program from almost 10 years ago 🙂 The setting made me think about Elena’s new initiative called the Star Nation News (8). I truly admire Dr. Salla for being so brave to talk about these subjects back then already.

Dr. Salla talks about the testimony of Randy Cramer back in 2014 (7)

DAN WINTER TALKS ABOUT CORROBORATION FROM RANDY CRAMER
Randy Cramer was also mentioned during a video that featured Dan Winter and Elena Danaan (9). In this video that focused on the Nine, Dan suggested that Enki would have green blood. Perhaps Elena can now ask Ea if that is indeed true. Dan Winter referred to Cramer in connection with a recent interview he had seen on Gaia.tv. Dan says that he had played a certain part in starting Gaia TV. It is obvious that Winter considers Randy Cramer to be a trustworthy source when he used Randy’s intel as corroboration for the removal of the Ciakahrr from our planet. Let’s hear him talk about Cramer:

Dan Winter talks about corroborating info from Randy Cramer (9)

INTERVIEW WITH ELENA DANAAN, RANDY CRAMER AND JEAN-CHARLES MOYEN
In the article On Distorted Human Genetics (11) from August 2022 I made a link to a video in which Merrily Milmoe from Cosmic Brilliance interviewed both Elena Danaan, Jean-Charles Moyen and Randy Cramer. As far as I know that is the only video-meeting between Elena and Randy. Unfortunately the video has been made private, but you can still listen to an audio version (12). I chose not to invest time in searching for a great interaction between the two. I will leave that up to you.

SOME REFLECTIONS
It seems that Randy Cramer is well respected by both Dr. Michael Salla, Jean-Charles Moyen and Dan Winter. I don’t know about Elena’s position on him. I therefore think he is to be considered a trustworthy source and therefore you are bound to meet Randy Cramer more often here. This post is only meant as a very short introduction to him, embedding him in the rest of this website. I do wonder why Randy hasn’t become part of the GSIC-group. Dr. Salla did do a recent interview with him in 2022 (13), though.

Well, If you have some interesting information to share on Cramer don’t hesitate to so in one of the Study Groups (14). I will most gladly start a topic on him in the Independent Elena Danaan and Disclosure Community Study Group.

FOOTNOTES
(1) As soon as the article is finished you will find the link here
(2) Aries Prime and Marsquakes
(3) Would Every ET-species have its own Take on Our History?
(4) Penny Bradley speaks about her time as a SSP in a Super Soldier Talk interview with James Rink: Super Soldier Talk – Penny Bradley – SSP Dark Fleet Pilot
(5) The Local Resistance on Mars
(6) Danaan, E. (2021) We Will Never Let You Down. Amazon Press. Illustrations of Martian Insectoids can be found at pages 220-221.
(7) Mars Defense Force: Defending Human Colonies – Part 2 Capt K Interviews (S02E02)
(8) STAR NATION NEWS Ep 02 ~ Oct 30 2023
(9) THE NINE: Diving into the origins with Dan Winter ~ Feb 23 2022
(10) Enki has green blood – timestamp from (9)
(11) On Distorted Human Genetics
(12) You can find the audio-version on Boomplay If anyone has any idea why this interview was removed, please let me know.
(13) From Secret Space Program Insider to Psionics Trainer
(14) Telegram groups: Galactic Anthropology (general updates), Elena Danaan and Disclosure Community Study Group, Alex Collier and Andromedans Study Group and the Galactic Anthropology Library. You can of course also comment below the articles here. There is also a facebook page that you can join. In October 2023 I started a Laura Aboli Archive to store the multiple ways the Deep State is losing its terrible grip on our world in a topic format with very topical subjects. See: Laura Aboli Archive. Elena Danaan also has her own telegram channel which is accessible for most people.
(15) Randy Cramer – Obranný Oddiel Marsu 5/6

On Lovingly Connecting with Someone Else

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(post taken from (3))

On September 9, 2023 Elena Danaan posted a wonderful video in which she explored the ‘science of love‘ with the electrical engineer Dan Winter (1, 2). Often it isn’t easy to keep up with the speed of Dan Winter’s words (longitudinal, scalar, compression, array, nodes), but I managed to do so, at least until I encountered the fascinating story that Elena shared.

They had been talking about the vortex qualities of the heart, and how the heart could be regarded as a kind of ‘tornado maker’, and also how shamans would have been able to lovingly connect – through the heart – with a tornado, to really be able to influence it.

Elena refers to something she learned from Thor Han (4) and presents us with an inspiring example of how this practice of connecting with someone or something from the heart can have amazing effects.

Elena Danaan talks about connecting to others through the heart (1)

In the above fragment Elena describes how Thor Han (and probably more Ahel (5)), use this ‘technique’ to first feel the love, the light, in their own hearts and then they connect with another being and they try to change their heart into a state of love too. We have spoken about another fascinating aspect related to the Ahel, and you can read more about that at ‘Processing Emotions in the Ahel Way‘ (6).

SOME FINAL THOUGHTS
Wouldn’t it be great if more of us would be able to share our love more often with all kinds of people or things around us? I do think you need to make sure that your heart is truly in a loving state before you decide to share your love with others. Tell other people what you think about all this (7).

FOOTNOTES
(1) ELECTRIFYING IDEAS on What is LOVE & What is the SOUL! with Dan Winter, Ea & Elena Danaan 09 09 2023
(2) Dan Winter has appeared a couple of times on this website too. The last time I quoted him was when he said that Enki would have expected to see green people on Earth. See the bottom part of the article On Green-skinned People from Earth
(3) This post appeared on the telegram channel of Megan Rose, on August 8, 2023
(4) On the Connection between Thor Han and Elena Danaan
(5) Getting Acquainted with the Ahil
(6) To Process Emotions the Ahel-way
(7) Telegram groups: General Notices and Updates, Elena Danaan and Disclosure Community Study Group, Alex Collier and Andromedans Study Group and the Galactic Anthropology Library. You can of course also comment below the articles.


On Green-skinned People

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Within this field of disclosure there are many concepts and ideas that are way off for the majority of people living on our world today. Everything related to intelligent extraterrestrial life is often still brushed off as ‘food for wacko’s‘. During the last two years I have opened up to what I consider the reality of extraterrestrial life and I was willing to accept many elements as possibly real which might seem outlandish for many. But even within this vast new territory I came across certain ideas that I preferred to ignore, at least for the time being, for it was even too odd for me.

Deviant Art by Vanmak3D (5)

One of those concepts was the one introduced by the Andromedans from Alex Collier about human beings who would have had green skin before a terrible nuclear event took place more than four hundred thousands of years ago. This nuclear war would have changed the colors of our skins (1).

But last month, Larry Fulmer, a contactee, was told by one of his contacts from the Inner Earth, that indeed, the original human beings on Earth would have had green skin. This immediately makes that claim turn more valuable, for, why would two contactees share this claim? It was enough reason for me to gather these two sources into an article on this.

ALEX COLLIER ON THE ORIGINAL GREEN SKIN OF HUMANS
In his book ‘Defending Sacred Ground’ (3) from 1996, Alex Collier speaks about green skinned people in the context of a great war. Read along with what he said:

“In your linear time of 3rd density measurement, of 439,231 rotations ago [years], war on a grave scale occurred in your Solar System. This aggression occurred against those on your worlds that included not only you Terrans, but also those called Nibiru. This invasion of your systems by Orion was led by a queen named Suttee. This (war) was destructive on many levels [frequencies) of physicality.

“We will focus tonight on your Terran physical form…. The last grave conflict was very harmful to your physical form. Many weapons of destruction, many of atom-splitting (nuclear weapons) have been used. This is the reason for most of your Terran skin tones. We shall explain…. Nibiru won, but only a short battle, before they and other outposts were forced to leave (the solar system) because of genetic damage. Your original races were green-skinned.

Symbol for Radioactivity (6)

This we know, because of large copper traces in your Terran 22 blood type (refers to the composite of human genetics which comprise genetic codes from 22 humanoid species). Also, the pituitary and thyroid (glands) were fully functional (at that time). The genetic damage to these organs was caused by (the) radioactivity in (the) air and all things of contact (on all things in the environment).

The air was like this for a long time. ” It (the radioactivity in the environment) caused the genetic memory of these organs (genetic memory of full-use capacity) being closed and almost atrophied (caused the function of the organs to shut down and the organs to atrophy).

Your world experienced drastic changes in climate and massive magnetic fluctuations. Your different skin tone races are a result of an edema damage to your blood (changes in blood chemistry). It was (then) necessary for survival to create self-sufficient and contained environmental habitats, (both) above and below the surface. (3, p.62)”

There’s not much that I can add to this. One might expect that the shrinking of the pituitary and thyroid glands might have had a huge impact on our level of awareness too, even though the pineal gland was not specifically mentioned, here. What is interesting that Alex also mentions the creation of habitats below the surface.

LARRY FULMER AND THE GREEN SKINNED HUMANS FROM INNER EARTH
In June 2023 I got into contact with Larry Fulmer (7) and a few weeks after that he started to get into more active (most of the time not physical) communication with people from the Inner Earth. You can read all about it at his YouTube site and his telegram channel (7). Two of his contacts live or lived in the Inner Earth. They both had green skin when they were alive. Let’s listen to a fragment in which he describes Hermes, a 6D human from the Inner Earth (20s):

Larry Fulmer introduces Hermes, a green-skinned human from Inner Earth (9)

In a video interview from July 20, 2023 (10), we can hear Larry say that he lived a life as an original (green-skinned) human, which would allow him to contact them at this moment. Many of these original people would have gone underground some 2 million years ago after the destruction of Maldek. There was also radioactivity involved that would have changed the color of the skins of the people on the surface. I will get into that aspect in a future article. I would like to stick to the color ‘green here.

DAN WINTER ON GREEN AND RED BLOOD
While thinking about green skin I was reminded by something that Dan Winter said in one of his interviews with Elena Danaan (11). It probably has nothing to do with the green people from Inner Earth, and Dan Winter can get carried away in his enthusiasm too. I will leave you with his theory about green and red blood. Was Osiris indeed depicted as green in Egypt? (49s)

Dan Winter talks about green and red blood (11)

It would say it is interesting to hear Dan say that Enki expected green-skinned people, but was surprised to find people with red blood. I also remember having heard that the Eben that would have landed here in the 1950s would have had blood based on chlorophyl too (12). If you have got more info on this, don’t hesitate to comment below this article, contact me, or join the Galactic Anthropology Library (2).

THE MURDRAT FROM VATUUKAT
In Elena Danaan’s 2024 Encyclopedia Galactica (14) she also mentions a green humanoid species that used to live in the underground. Not on our planet, but on a planet called Vatuukat somewhere in the Auriga constellation (see 14, p.173). In that book she writes: “The Murdrat are indigenous human species of unknown origin, who appeared one day from the inner realms of the planet. The Murdrat are green skin, geen hair and golden eyes humanoids. They are much involved in the life and economy of the planet, working closely with the Vyn and the Taal. Murdrat have powerful psychic powers, use telepathy to manipulate other beings’ mind and some of them can even alter space-time reality” (14, p.173)

The Murdrat were introduced in Star Nation News, episode 60 in January 2025 (15)

THE MOREKAT FROM THE CANCER CONSTELLATION
A humanoid green-skinned species can also be found on the planet Luyu in the Leyka Ta System in the Cancer constellation. These people are called Morekat (14, p.264-265). Their green skin would be the result of the “…manganese and copper rich waters, atmosphere and base food source” (14, p.265). Elena presented the Morekat in a Star Nation News episode from April 2025 (16) . Here’s the relevant excerpt:

On the Morekat (16)

ON SKIN COLOR AND HEMOGLOBIN
On July 18, 2025, Elena Danaan posted something related to the color of the skin and the composition of the blood (17).

“Green skin color is quite a common occurrence in the universe through many cultures, and is due to sulfhemoglobin, a modified form of hemoglobin that contains sulfur. Contrarily to blue blood, also frequent, that is composed of a copper-based protein called hemocyanin. In both cases, skin shades can vary in intensity from pale to intense, regarding genetic markers.” (17)

FOOTNOTES
(1) What really happened 439 thousand years ago? Two Conflicting Accounts
(2) The Galactic Anthropology Library (Telegram) or join one of the Study Groups (Elena Danaan/ Alex Collier) or the group that notifies you of new articles: Galactic Anthropology
(3) Defending Sacred Ground – Below is a video in which Alex also talks about this. This excerpt is from a video that was recorded in november 1996. I posted it already in the context of the two conflicting accounts surrounding 439 thousand years ago (1) (almost 2 minutes)

Alex Collier talks about green-skinned people (4)

(4) Andromeda Council – Alex Collier 1996 – ( Part 1-2) – Deutsch subtitles (HQ). (starts from about 31′)
(5) Deviant Art
(6) Dreamstime
(7) I created a topic called ‘The Larry Fulmer Files‘ in the Elena Danaan Study Group in June 2023. You can read that thread here. Since then Larry has left the group and he removed a few items from this thread. There’s also another thread in which I analyze one of his talks with Hermes (8). He has a youtube channel and he started his own (telegram) group at LarryFulmerChat. . I was part of that group a couple of days before I was booted by Larry. Despite that I still think that Larry’s material is interesting to study and compare with other sources. I take a neutral position to his work. I have learned that studying this material implies looking beyond the personalities with their funny ways. And for the record, I have got my own funny ways as well 🙂
(8) Exploring Larry Fulmer Videos – This thread is filled with lots of links to other articles on this website. By the way, you can find another excerpt from the Larry Fulmer material at (13).
(9) Loqma Green skinned Original human
(10) INNER WORLD CONVERSATION WITH LARRY FULMER AND DR. K PART 1 (fragment lasts a minute and a half).

Larry and Karen speak to Sarge Sovereign on green-skinned people (10)

(11) THE NINE: Diving into the origins with Dan Winter ~ Feb 23 2022 (6pm EST) (see at about 1h04′)
(12) I wrote a piece on the Eben at Genetic Experiments and Cloning on Planet Serpo by the Peacful Eben
(13) How Marduk became the Ruler of Saturn
(14) Danaan, E. (2024) Encyclopedia Galactica part I
(15) STAR NATION NEWS 60 ~ 13 01 2025
(16) STAR NATION NEWS 73 ~ 28 04 2025
(17) Telegram Post Elena Danaan – Copy in GA Study Group

The Ciakahrr

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The Ciakahrr have been mentioned a few times before on this website. After there was some new information on the Ciakahrr from Dan Winter in his recent interview with Elena Danaan (1) I thought it was time to dedicate a small page to these big Draco-guys.

Illustration from A Gift from the Stars (2), p.149

And big they are. The Elite Ciakahrr (as they seem to call themselves, whereas we used to call them Draco’s) are said to measure about 18-25 feet (6 to 8 meters!) (2, p.148). They come from a planet orbiting Alpha Draconis or Thuban. Below you can find a map of the Draco star systems. I showed you another one when describing the Giansar (the Hooded Reptilians) from the tail of the star sign (3).

A lot can be said about these giants. For one they like to eat little children or drink their fear-induced adrenochrome-blood.

“They are known for their symbol: the winged serpent. The elites are usually black or brown with yellow or red striping and weigh up to 1900 pounds. Also Winged.” (2, p.148)

A shorter and thicker version of the Ciakahrr are the Nagai or Nagari. They are very muscular and they don’t have any wings. They are very aggressive and violent and feared throughout the galaxy. They are about 7 to 8 feet tall. “Their skin is scaled and can be from dark red to orange with black striping….Their eyes are yellow, slanted, with vertical slit pupils” (p.148)

Thuban, the third star, counted from the tail (Giansar) in the Draco Constellation. Notice the closeness to Ursa Minor (or the Little Bear) (4)

It were probably the Nagai that Tony Rodrigues encountered when he was on a spaceship (5). These beings are excellent shape shifters. In Danaan’s book you can find some hints on how to spot them anyway (2, pp 151-152). If you like shape shifters you could pay a visit to the page on the Kiily Tokurt, the black-eyed shapeshifters (6).

The Ciakahrr and the Vatican
Megan Rose wrote about the Ciakahrr and the Vatican (before the disconnection from the Galactic Federation of Worlds, 7) in her book ‘Welcome to the Future’:

“(Val Nek:) The Ciakahrr’s main feeding grounds were underneath the Vatican in Rome….We began clearing out this underground base underneath the Vatican in November 2020. We did so by first closing all the exits that correspond to the surrounding areas in Europe. It took much time as there are many exit and entry point, for as I said, the Vatican is the hub for the reptilians on planet Earth….

The underground of Vatican City was cleared out completely in April 2021. This allowed the Federation to accelerate its efforts in liberating Mars and freeing it from control of the Dark Fleet. I shall remind you that the Dark Fleet is an alliance with the Germans originally , but also the Cabal and the reptilian, Ciakahrr species.” (8, pp.68-69)

(Inside the Vatican – Doesn’t it have a nice Reptilian look? – image taken from Exopolitics (9))

Dan Winter on the Ciakahrr and Randy Kramer
Well, fortunately all these Ciakahrr creeps would have been chased out of their underground shelters and all other bases they had all over the solar system. So no more fighting with Nagai or Elite Ciakahrrs as was described by Stephen Chua (10) and Jean-Charles Moyen and David Rousseau (11).

Dan Winter talked about the Ciakahrr in his interview on the Nine with Elena Danaan on February 24, 2022. He said around 8 minutes into that interview that he has been talking about the Ciakahrr for about 25 years already. That is interesting, for it seemed that Elena (and Megan) were about the only ones who used the term the Galactic Federation of Worlds (and the Ciakahrr themselves), whereas most people referred to them simply as Draco’s.

On top of that he said that he had recently seen a documentary on Gaia TV in which he heard that Randy Cramer, another whistleblower on the Secret Space Program (12), confirmed that all the Ciakahrr had been removed from our solar system. It is always good to have more corroboration of these huge events. The more people confirm what is said by Elena Danaan the better of course.

Matter Melting Device
In an older video from August 2020, Thor Han describes Ciakahrr technology which allows them to melt matter. They would use this technology to easily drill (or melt) tunnels in the underground. If set the option of ‘explode’ it could wipe out huge areas. This technique would use atomic fusion but without releasing any nuclear radiation. It would have been used in Telos as well (13,14)

Also see End note 31 and a link with the Nazi’s (15). In May 2023 the Ciakahrr were mentioned in connection with the Negumak (16) and we also got to know the Reptiloid Upukee, who are about the same size as the Ciakahrr, but they are on the benevolent side of the spectrum (17). Alex Collier in August 2023 described the horrific practice of consuming people by these creatures (18). In Star Nation News episode 9 from December 18, 2023, we could hear that the Ciakahrr are basically on their own in this galaxy after the collapse of the Alliance of the Six (19). The Negumak seem to love the smell of the Ciakahrr (21).

GENE DECODE ON THE CLEARING OF THE DUMBS
In a January 5, 2024 interview with Aaron and Tyler from Journey toTruth Podcast (22), Gene Decode (23) talked about the clearing of the DUMBS (Deep Underground Military Base) beneath the Vatican by the Earth Alliance (24). He talked about Tunnels beneath the Alps to CERN near Geneva. He also mentioned Jerusalem and the DUMBS below Area 51 and Dulce (25). During the interview Gene Decode said that nearly every US Military Base has a DUMB beneath it. What makes the excerpt below even more interesting is that he mentioned members of the Alliance of Six (19), when they were still influential on our planet. He names the Ciakahrr, the Orion Group (26) and the Kiily Tokurt (29).

Gene Decode talks about how the Earth Alliance fought the Ciakahrr amongst others in the DUMBS (22)

THE ABILITY OF CERTAIN CIAKHAHRR TO INTERFACE THEIR MINDS
In Star Nation News episode 40 from July 22, 2024 (30), Elena Danaan gave an interesting description on how the Ciakahrr can communicate amongst each other. Listen along to this video quote:

Elena Danaan on the Ciakahrr and their ability to interface their minds with a higher class officer (30)

“When we talk about the queen from the Ciakahrr Empire we are not referring to a hive consciousness, as the Ciakahrr Reptilians are individuated consciousness. Nonetheless, although they function pretty much like royal structures on Earth. For instance the Ciakahrr lower classes have the ability to interface their minds to the higher class officers, they are under the charge of. This power-bond is a frequent occurrence among Reptilians.” (30)

If you want to share your thoughts or ask a question or two, join the Galactic Anthropology Study Group or subscribe to any of the other channels or groups (20).

LINKS
(1) THE NINE: Diving into the origins with Dan Winter ~ Feb 23 2022 (video)
(2) Danaan, E. (2020) A Gift from the Stars. Amazon Press
(3) The Giansar – The Hooded Reptilians
(4) Thuban (α Draconis) Facts
(5) TONY RODRIGUES – Mars/ Secret Space Programs/ Interstellar memories -July 14 2021 (youtube)
(6) The Kiily-Tokurt from Suhail (Vela) | Galactic Anthropology
(7) On Communication Distortions and the Unfortunate Departure of M.R. from the Crew
(8) Rose, M. (2021) Welcome to the Future. Amazon Press.
(9) QAnon reveals Vatican Rothschild Reptilian Connection behind the Deep State
(10) Stephen Chua, Area 51 and three kinds of Greys
(11) French SSP Insiders Speak Out (video of the interview with Dr. Michael Salla (Febr, 19, 2022)
(12) Randy Kramer is mentioned as one of three whistleblowers in this article from 2017: Secret Space Program Whistleblowers Under Scrutiny – Response to Richard Dolan
(13) Mirkak from Telos (August 13, 2020)
(14) From Selosian Atlantis to Telos
(15) Why did the Ciakahrr help the Nazi’s build their Fourth Reich in Antarctica and in Space?
(16) Negumak vs Ciakahrr – Is a Galactic War Brewing?
(17) The Upukee from Mirfak in the Perseus System
(18) On the Consumption of Humans
(19) The Ciakahrr are on their Own and the Dismantlement of the Alliance of the Six
(20) Telegram groups: Galactic Anthropology (general updates), Galactic Anthropology Study Group, Alex Collier and Andromedans Study Group and the Galactic Anthropology Library. You can of course also comment below the articles here. There is also a facebook page that you can join. In October 2023 I started a Laura Aboli Archive to store the multiple ways the Deep State is losing its terrible grip on our world in a topic format with very topical subjects. See: Laura Aboli Archive. Elena Danaan also has her own telegram channel which is accessible for most people. In November 2023 I started a new account on X (formerly Twitter): Galactic Anthropology on X. Also available on VK. In January 2024 I started a project called Gondolath that focuses on the study of the Deep State and the Globalist agenda in everyday life. There’s even a related YouTube Channel: WolkenZwemmer
(21) The Negumak love the Smell of Reptilian Meat
(22) EP 284 – Gene Decode: Temporal War – Removing The Cabal – Area 58 & More – Unfortunately the youtube-channel of the Journey to Truth podcast has been removed, but I changed the link to their rumble channel.
(23) To find out more about Gene Decode head for his website: www.Genedecode.org
(24) The Earth Alliance
(25) We have spoken of Dulce base before. Mark Domizio talked about at The Extraction of Andromedan Light by an Insectoid in Dulce
(26) When Gene Code talks about the Orion Group he is probably talking about the Nebu (27), and we have come to learn that it game over for them (28).
(27) The Nebu
(28) And the Lights went out for the Nebu
(29) Kiily Tokurt
(30) STAR NATION NEWS 40 ~ July 22 2024