I love the material provided by Elena Danaan, Alex Collier and Dr. Michael Salla and all the contactees that either partook in the SSP or in other ways contacted beings from other worlds. The information is often breathtaking, but despite the amazing nature of it all it has shown quite a high degree of consistency, even though there are still a number of questions that need to be answered. While watching Dr. Michael Salla’s interview with Mary from January 4, 2022 (1,2) I felt a slight unease entering my system. I decided to make extensive notes on what Mary told Dr. Salla and I want to share the most striking things she said with you. I am curious to hear if you experience this same unease as well, or perhaps not at all. Let’s go

MARY’S FAMILY
Sometimes it happens that people who are chosen to partake in the Secret Space Program have family members who are also part of the military. Take for instance SSP-experiencer Rebecca Rose whose father was also a miltary in a classified aerospace program (3-7).

In Mary’s case her father was in the military and her grandfather’s sister was married to a former deputy general of General Eisenhower during WWII, who also turned into a CIA director for a couple of years (8).

There is also a Masonic link in the sense that both her grandfather and grandmother were part of this secret society (9). They would have monitored Mary and thought of her to be a good candidate for the Secret Space Program (SSP). Mary describes her grandmother as her handler.

EVERBODY GETS TAKEN
She then goes on to describe how she was put through a program of abuse as a preparation for her job in the SSP. This terrible and gruesome abuse and humiliation was eloquently described by Tony Rodrigues as well (10). Mary says that if you survived this abuse you were entitled to enter the SSP. A few minutes later, however, she says that every person on the planet gets taken by the SSP, for they need a lot of people in all kinds of jobs.

2, 5, 20 or 100 YEARS AND BACK
Until now there was this recurrent theme that members of the SSP would serve a period of twenty years after which they would be age-regressed back to their starting age and continue their life at the moment that they were taken (11). Chris O’Connor claimed that he had signed for two additional ’20 year-and-backs’ (12), but Mary says that this 20-year program is by no means necessary. She says that there are 2-years-and-back, 5-years-and-backs and there is even a 100-year and back program possible due to the medbed-technology. It shouldn’t be surprising that she later on says that she could technically be somewhere between 2,000 and 120,000 years old. She would have had 5 of these regression programs.

She adds that men are limited to 3 of these programs at the most (so, no fourth round for Chris), but that women can have more, because somehow they can use the future kids of these women as a kind of energy for these women to have more of these 20 or 100-years-and backs.

ON KING HEROD AND THE UTERINE SACK
While we are ‘future kids’ it is easy to talk about something that she described a bit later in the interview (at about 49′). She says that she was created in the time of Christ and that King Herod was killing off all the apostles (13) and that he was wiping out everyone of the bloodline of Christ.

Aliens were not allowed to interfere, but it seems as if they went back in time to take 7 unborn fetuses from parents who were about to die at that time.

Mary’s mother was actually killed by the Knights’ Templars, and seven of these unborn fetuses were pulled out of their dying mothers and the whole uterine sack with the fluid in it, was taken to the 20th century where she was ‘hyperjumped’ to Area 51 (although she often talks about Area 52 and Area 54 as well) in Nevada (14). She was the only one that was eventually put in her mother’s womb. There was no adoption record retrieved of it, she added.

The other six fetuses were placed by Illuminati families (51’52”). One might wonder if that is a safe place to put a child after having gone through so much trouble getting these fetuses from the Christed bloodlines from dying mothers some 2,000 years earlier.

She said that a lot of miscarriages are preplanned and that they know our future because they have looking glass technology.

WITH THE SPEED OF LIGHT
Like I said her father was part of the military. A sign of proof was shown in the video. She said that he had worked in Area 51 and that he had been traveling around in the underground bases and tunnels. Elena Danaan has described a lot of these underground bases in her excellent book, A Gift from the Stars (16), and I’m not questioning the existence of these extensive tunnels, but Mary did say something that raised by eyebrows a bit: she said that her father used anti-gravity vehicles that were able to fly about a feet off the ground and that they flew with the speed of light from Nevada to Alaska for instance. I did some calculating but that would amount to moving from Area 51 to Alaska in about 1/100th of a second. Now, that is quite fast indeed. It didn’t cause any physical problems though, she said reassuringly.

BEING AN ASSASSIN IN THE DELTA FORCE
She had served for 8 years in the military – although no proof of her being in the military could be found at the agency that provided proof of her father’s military history – except a picture of her, wearing army clothes. If I have understood her correctly it was during those years that she served in the Delta Force where she was an assassin. At about 22’40” she says: “I can remove obstacles pretty quickly, I never checked…if they were alive or not, because you need to get out what you can, because that could save the country.“

A BIOTECHNICAL CIVILIAN SCIENTIST
When she was returned after one of her X number of years-and-back program she had troubles adapting. She explained that the adult experience of the Super Soldier had to be put back in a 5-year old girl and that this caused a lot of trouble. She was brought back to this girl with an injection which contained the ‘jaguar mutation’. For every time she was age-regressed she had a kind of DNA-upgrade bonus. It was because of this SSP-adult coming back in her young body that she was later diagnoses as mentally retarded with severe ADHD.

Later – in 2019 – she had contact with someone from Washtington D.C. who helped her regaining her memories. Because all the memories were coming back too fast it led to a brain aneurysm. Luckily she was also a biotechnical civilian scientist and she overcame her aneurysm by injecting herself with white blood cells (47’50”)

A TWENTY TO THIRTY FEET BLUE-SKINNED GIANT
During one of her programs – I’m not sure if it was under Washington D.C. or below Area 51 – she witnessed a huge light blue-being with a size somewhere between twenty to thirty feet (18). This being was more dead than alive. Somehow people were ‘reverse engineering’ his soul away (“or whatever a giant has”, 34’55”). She goes on to describe this being as an angel but she warns that if you would get too close to that being you would simply explode yourself.

LEARNING PHOENICIAN AS A SECRET CODE LANGUAGE
One of her specialties was her knowledge of the phoenician language. In the SSP training she was assigned to the linguist academy, which was highly needed because there was a lot of intel that needed to be translated. She says that there are two kinds of Phoenician: the ancient phoenician and the paleo-phoenician. She was specialized in the ancient phoenician and didn’t understand much of the paleo-phoenician that is most common. She says that there are about 6 to 8 people who are able to speak the ancient language.

The language that she could speak was 75,000 years old, and she even got introduced to a version of phoenician that was 120,000 years old (19’53”). She said that it was considered as the first language of the human beings on the planet (19). It appears as if her prime motivation for knowing that ancient ‘language of the gods’ was to be able to write secret messages back to the US in case she got caught somewhere during one of her missions.

One might wonder how useful it is to know a language that is so secret that only about 6-8 people know it and to use that language to send a kind of SOS with location-information, as she said: “So that I could give locations in the case that I was caught”. If it were mainly for the location coordinates learning the numbers in Phoenician would seem sufficient I would say.

She talks about James Rinks and Dr. Johnny Delirius and Phoenician tablets thate were found in New Mexico (54’13”). She also says that she is very aware of not using the same patterns in her daily life. As an example she says that she often walks different paths through her house to avoid becoming trapped in patterns.

WE ARE ALL FROM THE PHOENICIAN REALM
When Dr. Salla asked her about our gods, Mary said that there actually are thousands of gods and she is part of the bloodlines of the Primes, a bit like in the movie Transformers, she added (21). We all would stem from the Phoenician Realm, although she can’t say who exactly were part of the Phoenician creation, but it was more of the pure bloodline of the creator god and then from the second wife of the creator god.

His first wife was responsible for creating the unintended imbalance between good and evil. The second wife did a better job and that’s where Yahweh and Yeshua (Jesus) come in (see 56′).

THE UNIVERE IS LIKE A CHRISTMAS TREE
She introduced the christmas tree as a metaphor for creation, in the sense that from every spike new spikes grow and on top of the tree would be our creator (55’58”)

JP AND PHOENICIAN
Mary had sent some phoenician script to Dr. Salla and he had this shown to JP and he actually recognized the letters from the Atlantic Space Ark (22). So apparently some Phoenician was actually used by those connected to at least one of the Arks. Mary said that she had the feeling that there were about 75 Arks on our planet, with the biggest one being ‘between the Pacific and Russia‘ (55’).

SOULS INCARNATING IN SPACESHIPS
The script that she had sent to Dr. Salla talked about the creation of life, “At the seventh day, you know, there was light and man. It’s a biblical verse” (56′). She said that every soul had the opportunity to go into a vessel, this can either be grass, a tree, an animal, a human being, but it can just as well be some machinery, like a spaceship. We did talk about a certain level of awareness that was encountered in spaceships (23), as if they were alive, but an actual soul incarnating in a spaceship is another fascinating new concept introduced by Mary.

SHE WAS GHOSTED
Towards the end of the interview she said that she was ‘ghosted’, just like 183,000 other people like her.

CONCLUSION
Well, these were the highlights of this fascinating interview between Dr. Michael Salla and Mary. It sure was an elevating ride. What are your thoughts on the matters discussed? Please share them below and if you like this article share it on social media (24)

FOOTNOTES
(1) Ghosted by the US Army to keep SSP & Ancient Phoenician secrets
(2) I only use her first name to make sure that if people google her complete name they don’t end up on this website, as a kind of protection for her.
(3) 20 Years as a Cyborg Supersoldier on Mars & Kuiper Belt
(4) A Draco Planet in the Kuiper Belt
(5) The Off-World Mantids
(6) The Unknown Ancient Architects in Our Solar System
(7) REBECCA ROSE & TONY RODRIGUES – Corroborating Experience on Mars ~ Dec 19 2022 (video)
(8) As taken from (1) : General Walter Bedell Smith, General Eisenhower’s deputy during WWII and a former CIA Director (1950-1953).
(9) Perhaps you want to read Oona’s reference to this global network? See The Cabal and the Freemasons – Are they about to Lose their Wicked Game on our Planet? and you might remember the role of the Masons in Radu Cinamar’s Transsylvanian Sunrise.
(10) Rodrigues, T. (2021) Ceres Colony Cavalier.
(11) Age Regression by 20 Years – Moyen and Relfe
(12) Age Accelaration Technique in Secret Space Program
(13) I can’t remember anything about King Herod killing off apostles, but I might have missed something, I’m not a biblical scholar.
(14) When I think of Area 51 I can’t help but thinking about Stephen Chua – See Stephen Chua, Area 51 and Three kinds of Grays
(15) Fetus Development
(16) Danaan, E. (2020) A Gift from the Stars – See pages 157-167.
(17) Underground Tunnels
(18) We have had our share of giants in 2022, but they were never as big as the one that Mary has seen. Only the Ciakahrr are described as being able to be reach a size of 18-24 feet (see 16, p. 148)
(19) Within Enki’s account of our history the Anunnaki arrived here some 372,000 years ago and first upgraded the ‘black heads’ that would have been present then to human beings and later Enlil’s team shook most of our DNA – so to speak – into pieces, leaving most of us with quite a limited understanding of our part in the galactic arena. Other sources say that humanity was already here at 1,3 million years ago (see On the Origin of the Asian People).
(20) Phoenician Alphabet – Origin
(21) Transformers Primes Bloodline
(22) More on the Atlantic Ark and an Ark Summary
(23) Consciouse Spaceships and Genetic or Soul Keys
(24) Somehow I get this association with some guy that once claimed that Enlil was Zeus and the King of Lyra etc, and that Elena Danaan was murdered and she was replaced by some droid or clone.