When we talk about the seeding of Humanity it is useful to distinguish between the seeding of humanity on our lovely planet Earth, or Terra as the Brazilians call our world, and the placing of humanity in our Galaxy, Nataru (1). This article reflects on the latter seeding, that in the Lyra system, a long time ago.

THE SEEDING OF THE CIAKAHRR, THE DRACO’S IN OUR GALAXY
Before we get to the seeding of humanity, let’s first take a look at the species that are sometimes called the Draco Reptilians or the Ciakahrr (2). What do we know about their origin? Alex Collier has got some interesting things to say about them. Let’s read a part from his book ‘Defending Sacred Ground’ (3):

“There are two schools of thought in our galaxy. There are the Regressives, who are races that carry fear and because of that want to control others. The hierarchy of the regressives starts with a group from Alpha Draconis. The Andromedans have no idea where the Alpha Draconians came from, but what they have learned through interaction with other dimensional races is that somebody brought the Draconians to this universe and “dumped” them in the Alpha Draconis system, where they had the highest probability of survival.

According to the Andromedans, the Alpha Draconians have had space travel for 4 billion years. They are an incredible race and have achieved great things, but they are bullies. They are jerks, and that’s a judgment – I’m taking that judgment myself. That’s my judgment based on what I know about them. The Draconians do not like human beings. The Andromedans say that Draconians believe that this universe was here for them – that their history teaches them that they were left here to rule it. But, when they started traveling, they ran across other races. They were able to conquer many of those races through genetic manipulation.” (3)

In april 2025, a video was posted by Alex Collier in which he further expands on this topic. You can find the video in the Reflections section in an article that deals with the question if the Ciakahrr would get removed from a universe again (

THE SEEDING OF HUMANITY IN LYRA
So, there we have these regressive Draconians or Ciakahrr in the Alpha Draconis system (4), and guess what? Humanity would have been seeded in the Lyra system, which is awfully close to the Draco’s habitat. Below you can see a part of the star map from ‘A Gift from the Stars’ (5)

It was Debbie Solaris who made me realize that indeed the Lyra system is a neighbor of the Draco system, at least from our perspective, but I guess they are pretty close to each other from every perspective within our galaxy. Before we get to the story about the Pa-Taal and the seeding of humanity from the perspective of Elena’s sources, let’s hear Debbie talk about this proximity and her thoughts about the reasons for seeding humanity that close to the Ciakahrr Empire.

THE PA-TAAL
The idea that humanity is seeded in the Lyra system also returns in the work by Elena Danaan. We have already spoken about the planets surrounding the Lyran star Man, which we call Kepler 62, from which the original Ahil came (8). In her third book ‘The Seeders‘ (9), we can read a passage about the Pa-Taal being the ones who seeded the first humans in the Lyra system. While Elena describes a vision of some 1,000 years in the future, she writes this:

“When you go to another world to settle as a colony, you must adapt to the radiations of the new star, the different gravity and pressure, so you will not evolve physically in the same way as you would on Earth. This is exactly what happened when the first human races seeded in the Lyra zone by the Pa-Taal ventured through this galaxy to find new worlds.” (9, p.547)

The Pa-Taal are also mentioned by Alex Collier in connection with the seeding of mankind. He says that Pa-Taal was originally a Draco word:

“Again, according to the Andromedans, we humans are part of a group of energies that they know of as the Paa Tal. The reason that the Andromedans use the word Paa Tal, which is by the way a Draconian word, is because the Draconians have legends about warring with a race that was creating human life forms that were opposed to Draconian philosophy. The Paa Tal created life forms that could evolve on their own, with free expression.” (3)

THOR HAN ON THE PA-TAAL
In the Seeders (9) you can find a drawing of all the species that are called the Seeders. One of those species is called the Pa-Taal, but their name is also used to describe the complete group of twenty-four seeder races. Thor Han puts it like this:

“We prefer to call them the ‘Do’ or the ‘Guardians’. It concerns the group of twenty-four advanced cultures ahead of the Intergalactic Confederation, those who are responsible for the seeding and propagation of life throughout the Universe. They are also known by the name of those who founded their group of twenty-four: the Pa-Taal” (Seeders, p.70)

SOME FINAL THOUGHTS
The Pa-Taal are said to be the ones responsible for the seeding of human life in the Lyra system, both by Elena Danaan’s and Alex Colliers extraterrestrial sources. They, however, are also responsible for the kick-off of human life on our planet Earth, by adding the genomes of 11 of their species to a primate, according to the same sources (10, 11).

This experiment on Earth started some 65 million years ago when the Pa-Taal would have removed the Dinosaurs from Earth to make way for a more varied palet of species (12). When would they have seeded humanity in Lyra? Before or after the started their experiment on our planet? Why did they decide to put humanity right next door to such ‘evil/dark’ species like the Ciakahrr?

Ashayana Deane also offers a theory from the CDT-Plates, which also points towards Lyra as the birthing ground for ALL races, and she talks about 950 billion years ago, but she doesn’t talk about the birth on the physical plane, but on a plane that is far higher in density (13)

FOOTNOTES
(1) The Real Names of Various Stars – How they are called by their Own People
(2) The Ciakahrr
(3) Defending Sacred Ground
(4) On the map you can also see the star Sigma Draconis, which would be the place where the Giansar come from: The Giansar: The Hooted Reptilians. The Giansar were also recently mentioned because of a possible connection with the organization called ‘TLS’: TLS and the Interdimensional Giansar
(5) Danaan, E. (2020) A Gift from the Stars
(6) Contact with Arcturians & The Akashic Records with Debbie Solaris – More from this interview between Lily Nova and Debbie Solaris was used for this article: To Receive Arcturian Information Boosts
(7) What Came First? The Lyran or the Orion Wars?
(8) Getting Acquainted with the Ahil
(9) Danaan, E. (2022) The Seeders
(10) Our Galactic and Intergalactic Genomes
(11) I encountered something funny about this primate in Alex Collier’s work on this. He describes a primate that was brought to Mars, and then to Earth by the Ciakahrr. This primate would have been the basis for the Seeders to add their genomes to. Would the lemur from Elena’s account be the same primate as is described in Collier’s account? Here’s the relevant excerpt from ‘Defending Sacred Ground’ (3):

“Apparently, the Alpha Draconians created the primate race, which was first brought to Mars and then to Earth. The primate race was then tinkered with by many other different races – 21 other races – resulting in the primate race having been modified 22 times. This primate race eventually became Homo Sapien Sapiens. – who we are on a physical level. Yes, we used to have 12 strands of DNA. Ten strands were taken out by a group from Orion in order to control us and hold us back.” (3)

(12) Elena talks about this aspect in a video-excerpt at the bottom of Discovery of an Ancient Crystal Artefact Containing Info that is 65 million years Old
(13) Once Upon a Time, some 950 Billion Years Ago
(14) Contact with the Council of Nine and 24 ET Seeder Races (video)
(15) “The Seeders (or ‘Founders’) = Intergalactic Confederation = a grouping of cultures, including many galaxies, including a sub-group of twenty-four, the Pa-Taal, propagating life in the Universe. Whatever the density they live in, they are all incarnated extraterrestrial peoples (like the Galactic Federation of Worlds but on a bigger scale). They are not The Nine. ” (9, p.70)
(16) Will the Ciakahrr get Kicked out of a Galaxy, Again?