It’s been almost three years since I started this project and there often were times when I nodded my head and thought: this concept really is pushing things too far (1). But since I like stretching my mind I often end up incorporating it all in this possible reality perspective. The future will tell how much of it turns out to be true.
During the 36th edition of Star Nation News (2) I had one of those moments when Thor Han described how people from the Earth Alliance had infiltrated all of the Global Deep State Corporations (3) and that they were protected from being discovered by using some kind of hologram shield. This dynamic, moving shield would prevent them from any Remote Viewing attempt.
Let’s here it from Thor Han himself (2):
Thor Han describes a remote-viewing resistant holographic shield (2)
“Part of the Earth Alliance’s mission is to infiltrate shadow organizations in order to beat the enemy at their own game. By now, all shadow organizations on your planet have been infiltrated by Earth Alliance forces. Due to the level of personal involvement of these secret agents, it is impossible to expose them. The technology you use for “remote viewing” does not work either, as these particular agents have holographic protective shields. A holographic shield is a technology that cloaks a person or a place from remote viewing, and it is also called a moving hologram.
It does not consist of a still image that deceives the remote spy, because we must call it as it is, but of an algorithm that constantly moves with the thoughts and activities of the subject. It is impossible to distinguish the holographic illusion from reality. And that is how our agents are protected, and that includes you, Elena, of course, because it is important to remind the public.” (Original transcript can be found at (4))
RELATED PERCEPTION ALTERING MATTERS Although I am not completely sure of how such a shield would work, it seems safe to say that the shield produces a field that appears absolutely real for the viewers.
Artifical Artistic impression of a female version of JP wearing a holographic shield 🙂
This is quite different from what Lacerta, the Reptilian lady, once said about how they used a kind of ‘perception switch’ in our brain to create the illusion that they looked human (5). In other words, they didn’t shapeshift themselves at all, but they managed to create the illusion that they were human by influencing our perception of them! (6)
PSYCHIC TRACKERS Margie Kay told us about what she called ‘psychic trackers‘. Sometimes when she remote viewed certain species or situations she would risk having these psychic trackers installed in her system. These trackers would allow the ones that were ‘remote viewed’ to follow the remote viewer to their home. She decided to avoid such circumstances (7).
MORE REMOTE VIEWING If you would like to read more about remote viewing, you might want to go to the page on the remote viewers from the Far Sight Institute (and see how they very likely ‘mis’-remote viewed Putin (8). There is also a page on the all-time Remote Viewing icon Ingo Swann (9) and Elena Danaan also once described being watched while writing her book ‘The Seeders‘ (10)
Someone in the GA Study Group (1) was quite positive about a presentation Margie Kay gave at the Journey of Truth Conference back in 2023 (2). This article is based on that presentation. She says she is contact with Val Thor and I wanted to see what that contact is all about. How does it match with the information about Val Thor that we have gathered from other sources, mainly that of Elena Danaan? Enjoy the ride 🙂
Margie Kay spoke at the JtT Conference (2)
MARGIE KAY AND VAL THOR I’ll be honest with you. I had trouble opening up to the possibility that Margie Kay would be in contact with Val Thor. Elena Danaan has explicitly said that Val Thor is presently not in contact with anyone except her. So, how could someone else claim to be in contact with him?
I luckily managed to overcome my initial resistance and decided to just listen to what she had to say, anyway, because she sure has an interesting story to tell (3).
REMOTE VIEWER Margie Kay (5) is a talented woman with remarkable abilities. One of her skills is that of being a remote viewer (6-8). She says that she has helped locate 66 missing people. In the presentation she gives an example of how it works for her. When she tuned into a missing girl she noticed a kind of ‘light-line’ coming out of her solar plexus that went all the way to a place at a crossing where she saw two street names.
She checked this with the mother of the missing girl and it turned out to be at the bus stop where she was seen for the last time. The line continued and went to a house only a couple of houses away from that point, it lit up, and the line went over the house into the back yard and to a shed. In the shed she saw the girl lying, still alive, with her hands and feet tied together with ducktape over her mouth. Later the police confirmed everything and the people were arrested and put into prison.
She once tried to remote view hidden places but soon stopped doing that after she discovered the existence of ‘psychic trackers’ that would latch on to her light bodies which would allow them to track her down.
MEDICAL MEDIUM Margie Kay describes an event that occurred while she was with her massage therapist in 1985 in the town of Seattle. Her therapist asked her – in a voice that wasn’t his – if she would like to participate in a ‘light experiment’. Margie agreed and she saw all kinds of lights for a few minutes and when the procedure was over she was asked: “And what do you see now?” and she saw a skeleton! and she heard another voice.
Margie Kay describes how she got X-ray Vision and heard Val Thor speaking to her (2)
From that moment on she was able to see through people in such a way that she could easily see where something was wrong. She could see that an appendix was on the wrong side of the body, or that a heart was only functioning for 50%. Her abilities are even improving by the year.
MORE ON HER CONTACT WITH (VAL) THOR After this meeting in 1985 she had telepathic only contact with him until 2000. In 2005 Thor told her that she would be writing a book about him and that she would meet other people that had been in contact with him. In 2006 he said: “I am Commander Thor and we are communicating with people in … that building…I am a commander of a large fleet of ships that are places all around the planet“.
Margie says that she Val Thor is always available when she needs him, but she doesn’t seem to contact him a lot. She relates how she once was suffering from a heavy pneumonia and asked for his help and a golden light ball appeared and moved into her chest and she was cured immediately. She also talks about a moment when she was attacked by some demonic like ‘Dogman’ and Val Thor appeared and removed him and instantly cleared the complete haunted hotel she was in.
Margie Kay talks about visiting the Venusian spaceship Victor 1 (2)
Towards the end of her presentation she says how she visited the Victor 1 spaceship that was also described by Frank Stranges in his book (9). She visited it astrally and through remote viewing. Listen to the video-excerpt above to hear her talk about these visits.
(Val) Thor Timeline (2,12)
She also shares a timeline about the contacts of (Val) Thor. She mentions people like Daniel Fry, Frank Stranges (9,10) and Howard Menger (10).
She includes herself as a contact from 1985 onwards, but somehow he introduced himself as ‘Thor’ and not Val Thor. You can watch her talking about some of the constructive messages Thor gave her at (12).
SOME REFLECTIONS Of course Margie Kay gave far more details on various matters. For one, she was told that the blue/white light that people often see before being taken aboard a spaceship, was necessary, for it allowed them to move through walls. There is much more to be seen in her 2023 presentation (2).
Like I said in the start of this article I was rather skeptic because of this link with Val Thor. But this has changed, although I am not sure what to think of this Val Thor connection, though. Perhaps there is a clue in the fact that he introduced himself not as Val Thor, but as Thor? Could it be someone else? He sure sounds very benevolent: he helped her out a couple of times in life-threatening situations and he activated her X-Ray vision. He warns of the dangers of nuclear weapons, he wants people to raise their consciousness. Margie Kay has helped locate many missing people, she helped people through her ‘medical X-rays’, so she deserves nothing but respect as far as I’m concerned (13).
Based on this presentation it doesn’t seem like she has had long talks with (Val) Thor. He seems to act more like a kind of guardian, only appearing at important moments. Perhaps Elena could ask (her) Val Thor or Thor Han about Margie Kay and with whom she is in contact. Is Val Thor still protecting a few people on Earth, or is he really completely detached from people of Earth?
Margie Kay spoke at the JtT Conference (2)
Besides Elena Danaan and Margie Kay there is someone else who also claims to be in contact with Val Thor. Based on a few messages I read, it seems very unlikely that this third lady is really talking to Val Thor (14). Share your own thoughts with fellow galactic explorers at (1).
(13) And not the ‘Muppet-approach’ that some people in the community use to describe people who they don’t like. (14) There is Telegramgroup called ‘Valiant Thor 369‘ and it contains a lot of messages (often in capitals so it seems). I want to stress there is no link at all between this group and Margie Kay. In a thread in the GA Study Group (Fake Val Thors?) I present one post of this group from a woman called ‘Mary’ and according to someone in the Study Group this alleged Val Thor writes his messages in that telegram group himself. Here’s a not very diplomatic post of mine on this ‘Valiant Thor’:
“Here are a few quotes from this so-called Valiant Thor from a message from May 30, 2023:
“WHEN HUMANS PRAYED TO GOD FOR HELP AND INTERVENTION, GOD SENT US. WE ARE THE ONES WITH GRATITUDE, AS WE HAVE WAITED ALONG TIME TO HELP AND SAVE HUMANITY,” …TO ALL THE PATRIQTS WW, PLEASE CONTINUE YOUR SPECIAL PRAYERS AND BLESSINGS FOR THE BEAUTIFUL CHILDREN RESCUED AND THOSE WAITING TO BE RESCUED, THE WHITE HATS, ALLIANCE, AND MY LIGHT BEING FAMILIES. ALL RESCUED HUMANS ARE TAKEN OFF PLANET FOR HEALING AND MINDS WIPED, AND WILL REMAIN OFF PLANET IN THE CARE OF MY LIGHT BEING FAMILIES. ALL DECEASED HUMANS WILL BE TAKEN OFF PLANET AND CEREMONIES CONDUCTED ON PLANET EDEN, ( EARTH 2.0)
Elena said that Val Thor was very disappointed when this guy (Frank Stranges) who wrote a book about him (Stranger at the Pentagon, 9,10) tried to integrate Val Thor in his Christian perspective, and now this Val Thor would start using words ‘your prayed to God and we came…’ And then all that stuff about people who are being rescued being taken off planet to be mind wiped by his light-family….and that BS about the deceased ones going to some other planet. What a load of crap, I would say, but that is just my humble opinion of course 🙂
In a video interview with Corina Partaki on September 6, 2022, Elena Danaan revealed something quite extraordinary (1). A few weeks after she met the Seeders she was putting together her thoughts and memories to actually start writing a new book when she was woken up in the middle of the night. Watch the video-fragment (4 minutes) below to hear her say herself what happened.
(Watch (1) for the complete video interview)
A PEEPING TOM FROM THE PAST She saw a vortex (2) right in front of her and a person was remote viewing her (3), and she knew that he (I believe she said ‘he’ somewhere in the video) was from the past, and like she said he was watching her with the goal to discover what she was going to write about.
Apparently they already knew in the past that her book ‘The Seeders‘ would create some serious ‘ripples’ and they wanted to see if there was a way to prevent this book from being written and published.
Elena talks about a temporal war that is being fought with both parties (the benevolent and the malevolent) using so-called looking glass technology (7). This temporal war probably explains why so many predictions – both good and bad – didn’t come to pass because the combatting sides try to outwit each other time after time. Some talk about a multi-dimensional holographic game of chess.
In a video from January 16, 2023 Elena Danaan refers to this ‘Peeping (CIA) Tom’ (11)
On February 19, 2022 Dr. Michael Salla launched the interview he had with Jean-Charles Moyen and David Rousseau (1,2). He had spoken with both Jean-Charles (3) and David Rousseau (4) before separately and the interview with Jean-Charles triggered three articles on this site (5,6,7). In the recent interview with the two of them their experiences are compared with each other.
One of the things that they both mention is the presence of Maria Orsic as a teacher in a kind of telepathy-class on the Solaris, a French-American Secret Space Program ship. This class would have consisted of only two kids from Earth with the rest of them being from other worlds.
The role of Maria Orsic has been rather ambiguous: what was she doing in the Vril Society, what was her connection with the Nazi’s and how can she be a teacher on a ship aligned with the Galactic Federation of Worlds (GFW)? After this interview it seems that Maria Orsic has been a kind of Fifth Column within the Nazi-program in order to keep an eye on them for the sake of GFW.
In the comments-section of the interview on Salla’s site the author Herbert Dorsey (1) gives a very enlightening summary of Maria Orsic and her connection with German and a race from Aldebaran.
“It was interesting to discover that the teacher on the Solaris, Maria Orsic, was the same Maria Orsic that formed the Secret Vril Society in 1921 in Munich, Germany. I did a lot of research on her for my book, “Secret Science and the Secret Space Program” (8)
Maria Orsic was born on October 31, 1895. Maria Orsic was a psychic who had a number of female psychic friends and organized the Vril Society from this group.Before long, this group was channelling information from the Sumi who lived on a planet in the Alderberan star system in the constellation Taurus. The Sumi claimed that it was their forebears that created the ancient Sumerian civilization on our planet.
Notes taken by Maria Orsic and Sigrun containing Sumerian and Templar writing (11).
These Vril psychics channelled the complete plans for an other world flying machine or Jensite Flug Machine(JFM) in German.. The written instructions were determined to be in the ancient Sumerian language and had to be translated back into German by the Pan Babylon society. After this translation, Maria Orsic asked her father if he understood the plans. He said that he did not, but he would take these plans over to his friend, Dr. Otto Schumann, a professor at the University of Munich and see if he did.
Maria Orsic (9)
Schumann was fascinated by the plans and said let’s build it and see what it does. The Vril Society then joined forces with the Thule Society to build the JFM-1 in early 1923. The Thule Society provided the financing and the Vril Society, the information. The Vril levitators were improved and the bugs removed throughout the whole JFM series. These two secret societies considered Dr. Otto Schumann as the father of the Vril levity disks and pretty well kept these developments secret during the 1920s.
But, in the 1930s the Nazi Party was organized by members of the Thule Society. And by the start of World War II, the SS gained access to the Vril saucer technology.
Maria Orsic was very opposed to this Vrll technology being used for a weapon of war and kept the more advanced saucers for herself and other Vril members in a secret hanger. The Vril psychics kept in constant contract with the Sumi during the war and totally disappeared at the end of the war. They are some that believe they joined the Sumi with their advanced Vril saucers.
Dr. Otto Schumann was brought to the U.S. after the war, where he is only famous for his discovery of the Schumann resonance between the Earth and the ionosphere.
The Summi may have been in the Federation of Worlds. That could be the pathway for Maria Orsic to join the Federation of Worlds and be on the Solaris. By now she would be 127 years old. Probably the Secret Space Program “med bed” technology has been used to keep her body and appearance younger. Perhaps Dr. Salla could inquire about Maria Orsic’s present appearance.” (1)
MARIA ORSIC AND 4 OTHERS JOINED THE SUMI A day after I put out this post, Herbert Dorsey added another piece of information on what would have happened to Orsic and others in the Vril-group. Here’s what he wrote at the comments at (1):
“I decided to see if my greatest source of information on Maria Orsic, the prodigious French researcher and author, Maximillen De Layafette has updated information on Maria Orsic since writing my 2014 book. After studying his updated information, I know that Maria Orsic and the other 4 ladies of the Vril definitely went to join the Sumi in the Aldeberan star system shortly before Munich was destroyed by allied bombing. Their civilization was very advanced and they could prolong life in a youthful state for many centuries. This answers my question about about Maria Orsic’s physical appearance.“
According to information from Elena Danaan, nearly everyone who lives on other planets than Earth uses the term ‘Phryll’ to refer to the universal life energy. If you want to get to know more about that take a look at (10). Many more details on Maria Orsic and the Vril society can be found at (11). In another article I argue for the existence of three ET-groups that were linked to Germany in the 1930s (12). I also advise you to read the article on the Antarctic Germans, based on the testimony by Jason Rice (13).
Dick Allgire during his live remote viewing session (15)
REMOTE VIEWING MARIA ORSIC BY DICK ALLGIRE IN 2024 On March 17, 2024, Dr. Michael Salla posted the following message on his Telegram Channel (14):
“This is an amazing remote viewing session of the mysterious Maria Orsic by Dick Allgire that was part of a larger Remote Viewing Project involving multiple other RVs. Allgire confirms many details about Orsic’s life that have long been known. Confirms that she was a gifted communicator with Nordic aliens, that she worked on flying saucer tech, was forced to work with the Nazi SS under Heinrich Himmler.
He also saw that she was a Nordic ET hybrid herself, which explained many of her gifts. Finally, she was not part of the breakaway German group that escaped to Antarctica but was captured by the Russians who brutally executed her. Allgire says that she was one of the most beautiful, powerful, and spiritual beings that he has ever encountered.” (15)
Enfant du Grand Soleil Central (2023) (18)
DAVID ROUSSEAU SPEAKS ABOUT MEETING MARIA ORSIC AS AN ADULT Thanks to a translation by Joe from the Galactic Anthropology Study Group (17) I can now share with you a part from David Rousseau’s third book that was published in 2023 (18). In that part David describes how he and Jean-Charles Moyen again met with Maria Orsic, probably in 2017.
In the interview with Dr. Michael Salla (1,2) they came to the conclusion that it must have been the summer of 1982 that they first met Maria Orsic.
“–My name is Maria. But you can also call me Marie.
This voice. This voice… I recognized it. I started shaking. What is was he passing? I no longer had control over my body’s reactions. I had a hard time go back to see who it was. And there, I saw her arrive, slender, fine with a very long polar blond hair, the body dressed in a jumpsuit close to the silver colored body. She seemed to float above the ground as her gait was graceful. She wore a beautiful smile.
My God ! We would fall instantly in love with this woman, as what she gives off is so magnetic. And his eyes, indescribable as they transmit light and something I don’t know what else. Suddenly, a gigantic flood of memories, emotions and even feelings, overwhelmed me. Everything mixed together, to the point of making me dizzy. I saw myself again child, receiving his teachings aboard the Solar Warden. All these years in his company resurfaced. She was everything to me, to us. She was like a mother, but also like a sister, a confidante, a friend. She has always been there by my side for a good ten years. She gave me supported, comforted, cajoled, supported and loved. Tears began to flow again abundance on my cheeks.”
A relevant comment by Elena Danaan regarding David Rousseau
–Maria! Maria! I cried, jumping into his arms. –My dear David. I’m so happy to have you back. My heart filled with joy. –Oh, Maria, I missed you so much actually. I realize it NOW. –Dear one, we missed you too. I missed you. (18, p. 114, read more at (20))
QUESTIONS ABOUT TRUSTWORTHINESS OF DAVID ROUSSEAU’S THIRD BOOK On the Exopolitics chat questions were raised about Rousseau’s latest work. Elena Danaan said: “Unfortunately, David Rousseau has fantasized a lot regarding Maria Orsic lately, notably claiming she was the mother of Jesus, among a bunch of other irrational claims clashing with Jean-Charles Moyen’s and my true physical experience and information. Although he truly was an SSP experiencer with JC Moyen, David Rousseau is not a reliable source of information. A lof of novels fantasy.”
As to the remote viewing results by Dick Allgire, both Dr. Michael Salla and Elena Danaan seem to think it might be possible that Maria Orsic had a body in stasis off-world, and that she was indeed killed at the end of the second world war. Elena is sure that Orsic (in her original body, apparently) is active in the solar warden program.
SOME REFLECTIONS Maria Orsic is an enigmatic woman. Both David Rousseau and Jean-Charles Moyen saw her for the first time in 1982 (22) and followed her classes on the Solaris (23). In Rousseau’s third book he describes how he later met Jean-Charles as an adult on a spaceship (probably the Solaris) and how he only then started to remember his time with Jean-Charles and with Maria Orsic (24). This would imply that Maria Orsic is still fully alive and serving as a member of the Galactic Federation of Worlds. But would she indeed have been executed by Russians who helped free Europe from the Nazi’s? And which Orsic would the two French SSP-participants have seen? The one who lived on our planet, or the one who walked out of a stasis pod after her Terran body was killed? What’s your take on all this? Let yourself be heard at (17).
THOR HAN ON MARIA ORSIC – JULY 2024 In July 2024 Thor Han gave us an update on Maria Orsic (27). I highly recommend watching that episode. In that episode Thor Han told us that Maria Orsic received her information from the Jadai Anunakene from Aldebaran (28) who turned out to be still loyal to Enlil himself. The Nordics with whom she worked were not from Aldebaran, but from Alcyone, namely the Taal-Shiar (29). When she discovered the bad intentions of the extraterrestrials she was working with, she and her fellow non-terrestrials fled. They received protection from the Galactic Federation of Worlds (30). Maria also received an anti remote-viewing holographic shield (31), because no one was to know where she was or whether she was still alive.
Thor Han on Maria Orsic after she fled the Nazi-regime (27)
She later worked with the US Navy in the early stages of Solar Warden. She and her team worked with Earth engineers and her codename was Jessica. William Tompkins wrote a book in which he describes working with beautiful Nordic women, and one of them carried the name…Jessica (32). Thor Han ended his account on Orsic by saying that she switched to training new personal for Solar Warden, which again corroborates the account by Rousseau and Moyen.
Remote Viewer Dick Allgire on the alleged Execution of Maria Orsic by Soviet forces (16)
(16) Remote Viewing Maria Orsic (17) Telegram groups: Galactic Anthropology (general updates), Galactic Anthropology Study Group, Alex Collier and Andromedans Study Group and the Galactic Anthropology Library. You can of course also comment below the articles here. There is also a facebook page that you can join. In October 2023 I started a Laura Aboli Archive to store the multiple ways the Deep State is losing its terrible grip on our world in a topic format with very topical subjects. See: Laura Aboli Archive. Elena Danaan also has her own telegram channel which is accessible for most people. In November 2023 I started a new account on X (formerly Twitter): Galactic Anthropology on X. Also available on VK. In January 2024 I started a project called Gondolath that combines ET Disclosure with Current events in a loosely and sometimes playful manner. There are also more and more articles available in video format: both on Youtube and on TikTok. Like and subscribe! (18) Rousseau. D. (2023) Au-delà de notre monde: Tome 3, Enfant du Grand Soleil. Also take a look at David Rousseau’s website (19) (19) David Rousseau’s website (20) “-But how ? How come I feel like it was yesterday, and at the same time it is so distant. Had I really left again? Had I really returned to Earth? I admit that I’m losing all sense reality. -It’s normal. And we are going to overcome that. These are the distortions on timelines. Come with me. I will explain everything to you and by that same opportunity to restore your memory of many things that you lived. But know that I won’t be able to unlock everything. -Why ? –Because it will be up to you to remember it. –Ah! I told myself that this was going to come back at one point or another. other. But I understand very well.
Maria Orsic and the Vril Society (26)
–You see me delighted. –Will you explain to me what really happened when I left? Because, if my memory serves me correctly, it was my pure and simple choice not to re-sign. –I will explain to you of course. But you did it. -What ? –Resign. -Eh ?! -Yes. But we will see that when the time comes. –Have I resigned? –Several times, on several timelines in fact. -I don’t understand. –In what you call the future, you are still part of the crew of the Solar Warden and the Solaris. –Whoa…it gets more complicated there. –It’s quite simple to understand actually. You will see. That will become crystal clear. But first, I will take you to the medical room.” (translated excerpt taken from 18, p.114) (21) I would almost start to think there is some deeply ingrained anti-Russian bias in those American Remote Viewers. Take for example the negative remote-viewing session by the Far Sight Institute on Vladimir Putin (25). (22) For more on 1982 see French Insiders Speak Out (with timestamp to the 1982 part) (23) The Excelsior and Solar Warden (24) –David! I’m so happy to see you again my brother! It was so long. –Sorry, but… are you? –It’s me… It’s Jean-Charles. Come here so I can take you in my arm. I didn’t have time to react before he gave me a warm hug. To his contact I could actually feel something intense. Fraternal. But paradoxically, it remained diffuse. I could feel his entire body covered of emotions. When he released his grip, I realized that tears escaped from his eyes. I couldn’t help but pour some in my turn without for me to understand what was really going on. (18) (25) President Putin and the Far Sight Institute (26) https://www.ecoactivo.com/extraterrestres/maria-orsic-contactada (27) STAR NATION NEWS 37 ~ July 1st 2024 (28) The Story of the Aldebaran Anunnaki and Outpost 361 (29) The Taal-Shiar from Alcyone / Jayha – History (30) The Galactic Federation of Worlds (31) Holographic Shields that Dynamically Block Remote Viewing Attempts (32) Hitler and Three Extraterrestrial Groups – In this article you can hear William Tompkins talk about Maria Orsic in an interview with Kerry Cassidy. You can also find another part of the message from Thor Han (27) there. His book is called ‘Selected by Extraterrestrials‘ and it contains 182 mentions of the name Jessica 🙂
In the January 9, 2022 Interview (1) between Dr. Michael Salla and Tony Rodrigues, Tony mentioned the Monroe Institute Techniques (2). I was triggered by his reference to the Monroe Institute for two reasons: Robert Monroe the founder of the institute, for me is the man whose books had a huge influence on my understanding of the (unseen dimensions) of the world, and second it reminded me of certain passages in Fiona Barnett’s book ‘Eyes wide Open’ (3) in which she details the way the Cabal/the Elite work in various English speaking countries: she describes terrible tales of dark (ritual) child abuse. In the book she also refers to a project called Starlines based on the Monroe Institute techniques. I will elaborate on these aspects in the rest of this article.
TONY RODRIGUES At around 12″ in the interview (2), Tony talks about his ‘promotion’ in the secret training program after he was regularly almost put to death to invoke near-death-experiences (4). He was put in a class with other young people who were all tested to see how useful they were for all kinds of Remote Viewing programs. Tony says that it must have around 1982. He says that they also used the Monroe Institute techniques to induce out of body experiences. Then the subjects could travel with their astral body to various places to see (or spy) on what is happening at those locations. He adds that he doesn’t want to guilty associate the Monroe Institute with these abusive secret practices.
ROBERT A. MONROE Like I said in the introduction, this man (1915-1995) is an icon to me. He has written three books about his journey on the path of Out of Body Experiences. It really blew my mind when I was a teenager, and it altered my perspective on reality profoundly. I also very much enjoy the books by Bruce Moen who I consider as a kind of successor of Monroe in the way he experimented with the Out of Body Experiences and Astral travel. You can imagine that when I heard Tony Rodrigues talk about the Monroe Institute in connection with these awful experiments I got triggered. Of course using the techniques (like Hemi-Sync) does not imply that my hero was actively involved. It did however remind me of a similar situation that occurred while I was reading Fiona Barnett’s book.
(You can read the free pdf at (3))
FIONA BARNETT In 2019 Fiona Barnett published a free pdf-book consisting of 478 pages on her study, including her own experiences with CIA child trafficking, MK-Ultra, Ritual Abuse and Mind Control (3). She openly uses the names of all the people that would have involved in these awful practices.
At a certain point she also mentioned the Monroe Institute (from page 370 onwards):
“During the 1950s, the CIA funded Robert Monroe’s development of what is called the Gateway Experience or Hemispheric Synchronization. You might know it as Astral Projection….
The Gateway Process is a method for inducing altered states of consciousness. It is the basis of remote viewing, astral projection and the weaponization of psychic energy. John Gittinger’s PAS was the main screening instrument for selection in the Gateway Process. The military selected creative and intelligent servicemen as Remote Viewing candidates. This is because high IQ creative people….are also naturally intuitive with a hypersensitive nervous system that facilitates learning of the Gateway Process.”(p.370)
Barnett establishes the link the Gateway Proces and MK-Ultra as follows: “The Gateway Process wat integral to the Stargate Project, a secret US army unit officially established in 1978 at Fort Meade, Maryland by the DIA (Defence Intelligence Agency) and SRI International. Formed in 1947, SRI (Stanford Research Institute) was a hub of MK-Ultra activity. SRI separated from Stanford University in 1970 and changed its name to SRI International in 1977. The Director of Stanford University headed SRI International from 1979. Staffed by Scientologists, SRI International was the CIA cut-out behind the development and weaponization of Remote Viewing and the Gateway Process.” (p.375)
STARLINES Barnett also introduces the Starlines Project which is especially interesting since it was focused on the exploration of other star systems. In the pdf that you can also download from this site (6) you can read about people remotely viewing (or astrally traveling) to star systems whose inhabitants we know a lot better now these days, like Alpha Centauri, Arcturus, the Pleiades amongst others. I haven’t found the time to study this material, but perhaps it contains interesting information. If it does, please let me know.
(original source not retrievable any longer)
CONCLUSION It appears that the techniques developed by Robert Monroe were not solely used by volunteers in the Monroe Institute in Virginia, but according to Fiona Barnett the CIA was also on top of this, for its potential to weaponize the possibility to visit other places while either with remote viewing, or by using astral travel (or out of the body experiences).
MK-Ultra might have been trying to recruit certain kids or adults to participate in these secret programs. It all saddens me deeply, for the discoveries and beauty and enthusiasm of Robert Monroe’s astral travels, was eventually used for dark purposes.
Just imagine that certain gifted kids were forced to travel to certain worlds where they would meet inhabitants that are discussed on this website, and when they would start a chat, the kid would have to say that in his world he was secretly forced and abused to participate in a program designed to weaponize his abilities. A great way to introduce humanity to other worlds….let’s hope we’ll do better the next round.
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