On October 31, 2022 we had a great treat: Dr. Salla presented a video in which he was sitting phsyically with both Elena Danaan, Alex Collier and JP in a room after the Orlando meeting from October 21-23 (1,2). They talked about all kinds of intriguing topics which I intend to cover in future articles as well. Triggered by a recent scientific article on how Saturn may have become tilted some 100 to 150 million years ago because of a moon (Chrysalis) that crashed on that planet (3,4), they shared their knowledge about Saturn.
We have spoken about Saturn a couple of times before (5), but like Elena Danaan says in the following excerpt it has always been a planet that was to be avoided. Now she explains why: Saturn was not a part of the territory that the Galactic Federation of Worlds would be allowed to enter because it was under control of the Enlil Faction of the Anunnaki.
And not only that. There would have been an agreement between this Enlil Faction and the Nebu or Orion Grays, which would have allowed for that ‘dark’ connection between Saturn, the Moon and Earth (5).
During the cleansing of 2021 the Enlil group would have lost its power base on Saturn. Elena describes how Enki would now have taking over the rule of his half-brother, which still leaves Saturn under Anunnaki-control.
In the video Dr. Michael Salla wonders if we would start to see a kind of repeat of the ancient Anunnaki-family feuds in these times. Elena Danaan reminded us of Enki’s words that ‘Enlil was neutralized’. This cannot be said of his lineage on Earth, at least not yet (6).
LINKS (1) Sleeping Giants, Return of Enki & Saturn Moon Crash: Roundtable Discussion (video) (2) Sleeping Giants, Return of Enki & Saturn Moon Crash: Roundtable Discussion (article) (3) “They conclude that Saturn’s present tilt is the result of the resonance with Neptune and that the loss of the satellite, Chrysalis, which was about the size of Iapetus, Saturn’s third-largest moon, allowed it to escape the resonance. Sometime between 200 and 100 million years ago, Chrysalis entered a chaotic orbital zone, experienced a number of close encounters with Iapetus and Titan, and eventually came too close to Saturn, in a grazing encounter that ripped the satellite to bits, leaving a small fraction to circle the planet as a debris-strewn ring. The loss of Chrysalis, they found, explains Saturn’s precession, and its present-day tilt, as well as the late formation of its rings.” from Saturn’s rings and tilt could be the product of an ancient, missing moon (4) During the round table discussion it seems that some believe that this crash of a moon into Saturn happened recently. When you read the article however (3), this was not the case. The theory to back a claim that there might have been a moon more than 100 million years ago that clashed on Saturn and caused the rings and the slight tilting of its axis. (5) Saturn was mentioned in connection with the destruction of the ‘holographic projector’ on the Moon. Elena talks about this dark link between Saturn, the Moon and Earth in this video just before the excerpt that I added to this current article that you are now reading. Chris O’Connor has been the one who claimed that he had served on Saturn during his 20-years-and-back programs. The idea that Saturn has been a territory of the Enlil-faction of the Anunnaki puts even more weight to my suspicion of the veracity of his story. Perhaps he was unknowingly fooled. For more see Endnotes 147,148 and 170. You might also take a look at The Interstellar Post on Saturn (6) The Enlil Lineage
Before the publication of Elena’s latest book ‘The Seeders‘ (1) I decided to write a trilogy (2-4) on the reasons for the destruction of Atlantis. I described three sources and their take on this important event in our history with the intent to eventually compare it with the variant that would be brought forth by Elena Danaan. Well, the book was published on the first day of the fall in 2022, so let’s take a look at what Enki has to say about it.
WHEN WAS ATLANTIS FOUNDED? Before we get to the fall of this legendary continent let’s first see what various sources have to say on the start of this civilization. According to Enki the continent of Atlantis was founded relatively late:
“32,400 BC – A new contingent of Alteans (5) from the Intergalactic Confederation arrive in our star system and settle in the island continent in the Atlantic Ocean, which had been the abode of Enki for eons of time. He welcomed them to share rulership, until he retired from this responsibility. Foundation of Atlantis.” (1, p.504)
Radu Cinamar doesn’t seem to be saying anything on when Atlantis was founded (6). Patricia Cori distinguishes three Atlantean Cycles but I cannot find any founding year of the first cycle, only that the second cycle ended at 28,800 BC. (7). Ashayana Deane has a different starting point, namely 68,000 BC, right after the onset of the Lemurian civilization (8).
The Atlantis Hotel in Dubai (12)
THE FALL OF ATLANTIS As a reminder, we have been discussing not less than four accounts on the fall of Atlantis before. Enki’s account makes up the fifth. In his historical perception he doesn’t say anything about a role of the Anunnaki in the destruction of the continent. This is in line with what Radu Cinamar has written (4), but sharply contrasts the accounts of both Ashayana Deane and Cori’s Sirian High Council-source. They both describe a very malevolent influence by the Anunnaki, either directly, or through agreements with priests.
Both Radu Cinamar and Enki seem to imply that the water was rising for quite some time before it eventually flooded the continent. Cinamar talks about changes in the Earth’s crust, and Enki also names the sinking of the continental shelf.
The slow sinking of the continent (in a period of a 1,000-1,500 years) is something that both Cinamar and Elena Danaan describe. They both seem inclined to put Plato’s description of Atlantis disappearing in ‘one day and one night’ into perspective. On the other hand, however, they also describe human factors which would have speeded up the process. Cinamar talks about the role of a rebel ‘E-N-L-group’ (9) and Enki talks about an artificial meteor that would have caused the final flooding:
“Only the final phase was brutal, with the culmination of the inner conflicts and the final strike in a growing warfare with the Ciakahrr (10), that resulted into the crash of an artificial meteor.” (1, p.508)
Enki was not the first one to mention a meteor, so did Alex Collier (11). He says that meteors or asteroids were thrown on Earth by a Pleiadean group, ‘or how they call themselves that time’: “It was a thriving advanced civilization on the planet at the time and until someone picked a war with the Pleiadians – or whatever they’re calling themselves this month – that’s when everything changed and if it weren’t for the war, if it weren’t for the meteors and the comets of the asteroids that were thrown at planet Earth, which caused it to tilt on its axis, a lot of things would have been different it would have been a very different outcome” (11)
SOME REFLECTIONS Although I would have loved to embrace the account by Enki in Elena Danaan’s The Seeders as the final word on what really caused the destruction of Atlantis, I have to admit that it remains unclear, at least for me. Deane and Cori put a lot of blame on the Anunnaki, whereas Cinamar, Collier and Danaan don’t even mention them. Because of other strange elements in the historical account of Enki I’m not sure what to think of this element either. Why does Alex Collier talk about Pleiadeans who would have thrown the meteor, whereas Enki blames it on the Ciakahrr. Why don’t Deane and Cori talk about any meteor at all? Unfortunately we are still left with a lot of questions on this topic, if you ask me. If you’ve got anything interesting to add please don’t hesitate and write a comment below.
UPDATE NOVEMBER 2022 In an interview with Robert Kahlil Elena Danaan talks about a big war at the end of the age of Atlantis. See the video-fragment below which was originally used in the context of Thoth (13,14)
UPDATE DECEMBER 2022 In a telegram post on December 30, 2022 Elena Danaan mentioned the fall of Atlantis. Here’s the post:
In January 2023, Elena had another interview with Dani Henderson (15) in which she elaborated on Atlantis. In that particular video she said that Enlil was responsible for terrible weather experiments which led to the downfall of the continent. I couldn’t find this element in her book (1), so I checked it with her and she clarified that it was not only those weather experiments but also the artificial meteor that combined brought down Atlantis.
LINKS (1) Danaan, E. (2022) The Seeders. (2) Three Perspectives on the Final Destruction of Atlatis: Account 1 by Ashayana Deane (3) The Second Account on the Destruction of Atlantis – Patricia Cori and the Siran High Council (4) The Third Account on the Destruction of Atlantis – The Radu Cinamar / Aleppos Variant (5) The Alteans are one of the 11 Seeder races from the Intergalactic Confederation. Oona is Altean and she currently acts as the representative of the Intergalactic Confederation. For more on the various Seeder races see: Our Galactic and Intergalactic Genomes (6) Cinamar, R. (2020) Forgotten Genesis. Skybooks. (7) In Patricia Cori’s Atlantis Rising (2001) she also mentions that year 32,400 BC. Whereas Enki says that a new contingent of Alteans arrived on our planet, Cori says that at that time Nibiru would have come into our solar system, and together with other celestial events this would have caused our planet to flip its axis, initiating the most recent ice age (see page 43). This reminds me of that other period, namely 439 thousand years ago. According to Enki the Seeders would have arrived, but according to the Andromedans from Alex Collier a Nebu-group would have arrived then (see What Really Happened 439 thousand years ago?) (8) Deane, A. (2001) Voyager II. On page 56 you can read about the seeding of various races on different places around the world. The ‘Annu’ would have prospered in Atlantis according to her information from the Emerald Convenant. (9) From Cinamar, R. (2020) Forgotten Genesis:
…Due to the fact that the rebels were beings who already possessed great powers and advanced knowledge, their negative actions and intentions had very strong reverberations throughout the world. By accumulation, a terrible shock came to human civilization as the frequency of energy dropped sharply.” (pp. 211-212)
Enki’s account of our history contains an interesting set of elements. Although it would be comfortable to simply accept everything as truth, I have come across a few oddities that were simply too big to just ignore, even though I truly admire Elena Danaan’s work. I will also gladly continue to follow her intriguing videos and make reports about it on this website, but I wouldn’t take myself and her work seriously if I didn’t at least name those awkward elements. Perhaps these issues will be dealt with in the future and is Elena enough of a scientist to look into these matters.
FOUR MAJOR INTERVENTIONS This article wants to focus on ‘the four major interventions‘ that would have been performed by the Pa-Taal (the Seeders) just before the arrival of the Anunnaki to our plains of existence. After 19,5 million years of non-intervention on our planet there were four waves of intervention in a relatively short period of time, namely in 437.000 BC (2), 424.000 BC, 398.000 BC and in 372.000 BC (7, p.493).
Interventions turning Apes into Humans (11)
“In regard to the natural Law of Evolution, the Seeders watched from a distance the slow evolution of the new multi-hybrid super species they had created, monitoring every step in the new species’ biological, social and conscious development – without intervening openly, but making sure that the experiment would continue as long and as safely as possible throughout the natural cycles of evolution.”
“…To reach stabilization, it involved repetitive interventions throughout successive generations of beings, according to the laws of natural evolution, otherwise the genes are rejected. In this great experiment on a long time scale, the rejected genes were tried on other worlds, in different environments. The Pa-Taal performed four major interventions on Earth, injecting new genetic input and performing DNA upgrades.” (7, p.493)
After the first seeding of ‘our’ genetics into primate beings, 65 million years ago, the Pa-Taal would have added some more vegetation after 45 million years and only 439 thousand years ago they returned to perform a few upgrades every 25.000 to 30.000 years. And after the last upgrade the Anunnaki arrived on the scene in 372.000 B.C.
LACERTA ON DIFFERENT VERSIONS OF HUMANITY AND THOSE FROM ALDEBARAN While all this was happening on Earth another conscious species had evolved on our planet: a humanoid reptilian species that would have witnessed what had happened during these years. Lacerta (5) talked about our history in two interviews. It is interesting to note that she also talks about our creators that were gone for millions of years and then returned a few times with sometimes thousands of years in between, performing genetic interventions on the primates. Who is she talking about? Let’s listen to her own words. Is she talking about the Seeders, or the Anunnaki?
An 5-minute excerpt from the Lacerta Files (8)
SOME REFLECTIONS What to think of this? Lacerta talks about the Illojim and they were tall blonds who were peaceful initially. They would have intervened quite a number of times in the evolution of the primates that were then present on the planet. This would have been done by taking thousands of them on their spaceships and then returning with these upgraded versions. Could these tall blondes have been the Jadaiahil that were recently removed from the Galactic Federation of Worlds? (9)
Lacerta also talks about fights between the Illojim and their race. The Illojim sure sound a lot like the Elohim, but Enki and Enlil weren’t tall blonds from Aldebaran. Since the rest of the story (including the fighting between the Illojim-factions) looks a lot like what we know about the Anunnaki this description of events might be about what happened after the departure of the Pa-Taal at 372,000 BC.
The Seeders (7) also talks about a war at about the same time that Lacerta talks about their war with the Illojim. In the Seeders it reads: “3800 BC – As a result of dreadful wars, the ancient custodian Anunnaki ‘gods’ left the planet for good, passing the rulership onto their hybrid human bloodlines.” (7, p.511)
And 100 years later the reptilian overlord enslavement over Humanity on Earth would have kicked off. But Enki is talking about the Ciakahrr (4,10) and not about the ‘Earth-home-grown’ Reptiloids that are part of Lacerta’s race. What would be the connection between these two reptilian species, and what about the Enlil lineage that would contain Ciakahrr-genomes as well? (4) There are still a lot of questions to be answered 🙂
The Anunnaki did their DNA-adaptations on what they called ‘black heads’. Would it have been the Hoova that have had a great share in these various updates before the arrival of the Anunnaki? (12) Would the timing of these Pa’Taal interventions have a connection with the possible arrival of our Moon some 500,000 years ago? (13)
In her fifteenth video in her ‘Contact-series’ on October 9, 2022, Elena Danaan described how Thor Han was part of a mission by the Galactic Federation of Worlds on the Nibiru-ship (1). They would be shipping big boxes probably filled with all kinds of medical technology, which could be used for the betterment of humanity (as soon as we are able to clamp down on the power of the Deep State/Cabal).
When I think of Nibiru I think about the Anunnaki and their awful interference in our history. Perhaps I am slightly prejudiced. Enki would have managed to be in control of the ship, now, and there would be nothing but positive, benevolent Anunnaki on board. This seems in stark contrast with one of Thor Han’s earlier analyses of the Anunnaki:
Snapshot from video on the Ancient Sumerians (3)
“Sumer yes they were there. Now the country’s name is Iraq, and they were there. They helped the local indigenous to build a very prosperous civilization. You know the Anunnaki were first a good the people, but then they were caught by greed and by power. And all that was done with the population. You wouldn’t believe what they’ve done with the animals, the indigenous population. They did a lot disturbing things. They were experimenting.
But then the Ciakahrr empire was here, and they wanted to do their own hybridization for food and slaves. The Annunaki were scientists, they were engineers, they wanted to explore and play around with genetics. But then they both fought and there was a war. The Annunaki left, the Ciakahrr empire stayed.
The Annunaki are very strange people, we don’t have contact with them very much. They are not trustworthy people. Their – I would say – ethics has very different levels than our ethics.” (2)
THE CHILDREN OF ENKI AND THE DESTRUCTION OF ENLIL Well, somehow things would have changed and the Galactic Federation of Worlds seems to trust Enki and the inhabitants of the sphere-like Nibiru-spaceship (4). The Anunnaki are presenting gifts to us and let’s hope that this is not one of the gifts that the Emerther warned us about (5) (gifts coming from the M42-Nebula, which is also the Nebula which the Anunnaki might have used to move back and forth to their own parallel world in Immaru, to their planet Ashtari (4,6,15)). But since the Emerther are also part of the Council of Five, Annax would surely know about this as well.
In the article ‘Trying to Understand Enki’s Genetic Template Grail‘ (7) I write about this idea that the reason Enki is called ‘Father’ by Elena is that he would have managed to boost our dormant off-Galactic DNA that evolved from a Lemur-like being 65 million years ago to a black human-like primate some 450,000 years ago (8). Enki would have done this at 360,000 BC. He added his own genetics and a very advanced human being was created out of this black primate, at least as far as the biology was concerned. It was not as easy to find souls that could house this very advanced human being effectively.
Well, anyway, we know the story. Enlil got angry and together with his team of geneticists he downgraded our genes to a level that made us quite docile and much of our ‘super genes’ where turned off. I guess, though, that we were more advanced at that stage than the original primate from before Enki’s ‘genetic booster campaign’ (9), so we must have made some evolutionary leap anyway.
Enki would have managed to keep a number of human beings in their upgraded biological state and they would have been able to pass on this ‘adamic’ package of genes, even all the way to Jesus/Yeshua and beyond.
THE LINEAGE OF ENLIL But what about this concept of the lineage of Enlil? I talked about Enlil before on this site (10,11). Apparently Enlil not only downgraded our DNA, but he must have ‘elevated’ a group of humans as well, to create the Enlil-lineage. Thus the Anunnaki would have left us with three groups: the activated, upgraded Enki-lineage, the downgraded docile, slave-race and the Enlil-lineage. What does Elena Danaan write about this Enlil lineage in ‘The Seeders‘?
The Illuminati (14)
“Parallel to this, Enlil also created his own bloodline, which descendants remain active to this day through the thirteen families that compose the ‘Cabal’ or ‘Illuminati’. Not all of these thirteen families are actual ruling families and not all ruling families are of the Enlil strand.
The CIAKAHRR program started 5700 years ago when they made agreements with human leaders of the time. In a quest for supreme power, the Ciakahrr hybridized themselves (12) into the royal bloodline of Enlil, who had psychic and magical abilities as well as great material power over this world. Several of the 13 ruling families, nowadays (2022), have both Enlil-Anunnaki and Ciakahrr genetics.” (13, p.521)
CONCLUSION This concept of the lineage of Enlil adds yet another interesting element to this grand tale. But it also raises a few questions; the Anunnaki were responsible for the 14th genetic package to our human genome according to Enki’s account of our history. In the post of the Genetic Template Grail (7) I wondered what would be in that package? Only the first 14 genetic contributions? And if so, would that wipe out all the humanoid contributions from the ‘seeders’ (and refugees) from within our own galaxy, mainly the people from Lyra, who came afterwards? If not, how does this work?
This story of the Lineage of Enlil also adds arguments to the idea that some contributions by our ‘Seeders’ were far from benevolent, if I am allowed to be so judgmental about the Enlil and the Ciakahrr presents to our genetic heritage, and not to mention the Grays who would have been Seeders number 22 (see 13, p. 528) and (12).
In earlier articles I mentioned information from Lacerta, a reptilian 28-year-old woman who has done two interviews in 1999 in Scandinavia. Parts of the transcripts of this intriguing conversation was put into video format and you can simply watch it on youtube (1). I have returned to this information since it also sheds interesting light on the period that was described in Enki’s account of our human history as it appeared in Elena Danaan’s ‘The Seeders’ (2). You can look forward to more relevant parts of this interview.
Today I want to show you an excerpt (2 minutes) from this interview in which Lacerta talks about the discovery of an ancient artefact somewhere in North America some 16,000 years ago. In contained information – stored within crystals – about what happened 65 million years ago.
Through analysis of the artefact they discovered that a fusion bomb that was shot at Earth from space by some reptilian species killed the dinosaurs and also the humanoids from Procyon that would have only arrived on our planet a few hundred years earlier. It would have been the war between these beings from Procyon and the Reptilians that eventually led to the cataclysm (3). The delving of copper would have been the main reason for this war.
In the Seeders this cataclysm is also described, only in a completely different light: it would have been the Intergalactic Confederation or the Paa Tal that would have wiped the Earth clean in order to be able to start with the human experiment (see 2, p. 492). Interestingly, they mention a reptilian race that managed to survive:
A Tyrannosaurus (5)
“Some of the Naga reptilians somehow survived and sought refuge in underground caverns and remote areas. Still the planet-wide cataclysm event made room for the beginning of a brand new world with umlimited possibilities.” (2, 492).
Lacerta says that her species evolved in tens of millions of years from a 1,5m Tyrannosaurus like animal after this cataclysm. This would imply that the Naga and Lacerta’s species are not the same species.
I think we can use some additional sources to determine what really happened. Perhaps the Ginvo from Procyon (4) can assist and delve into their ancient history to determine if there really was a colony from Procyon that visited Earth 65 million years ago. Wouldn’t it be great if we were able to read this ancient artefact ourselves in these times?
In November 2022 Elena talked about this period in which the Seeders would have ended the rulership of the Nagai and the Reptilians (6). You can read a bit more about the Nagai at (7). Below is an excerpt from Elena’s video related to this event, expressed in terms that sound friendlier.
The Ending of Reptilian-Only Planet (6)
Elena Danaan has spoken about this important turn of events in other videos as well. You might want to take a look at an interview she did with Dr. Salla when launching her Galactica Encyclopedia in March 2024 (8). She also elaborated on it in Star Nation News 28 in April 2024 (9)
When I first heard about the Lyran Wars I used to think it made sense to place them before the Orion Wars, but recently some doubts have been cast about this. In order to understand our history it may turn out to be relevant to make up your mind about what you think is to most likely order. This article tries to assist you in this by using five key galactic events that can be ordered in time in different ways. Are you ready for this extraordinary trip through our galactic history?
Logo Council of Five (4)
THE FIVE KEY GALACTIC EVENTS It is up to you to place these five key elements in the right order. I present them to you in random order.
THE CREATION OF THE COUNCIL OF NINE (WHICH TURNED INTO THE COUNCIL OF FIVE) During the Orion Wars the (Orion) Council of Nine was created. Annax writes about this in The Seeders: “The former Council of Nine from Uru an Na, that you call Orion, was formed a few hundred thousand of your linear years ago, in the purpose to protect the local cultures of the Orion zone against the growing power of the Nebu Empire.” (2, p.256). The Council of Nine (Five) mainly assisted in organizing the rebellion against the Nebu by arming the resistance that developed into a group called ‘The Black League’.
THE CREATION OF THE GALACTIC FEDERATION OF WORLDS In ‘A Gift from the Stars’ (1) the Galactic Federation of Worlds (GFW) is described as “Created to maintain peace and justice in this galaxy” (p.314). Annax mentions the GFW in a message from January 2022. He said that “the Galactic Federation of Worlds is at work to maintain balance in Nataru, our galaxy. Balance works in favor of evolution.” (2, p.256)
The Galactic Federation of Worlds Logo (4)
When was the Galactic Federation of Worlds created? Annax said: “Shortly after these events [wars in Orion Zone, battle between the Nebu and the Black League] the Galactic Federation of Worlds came into existence in the idea of creating a structure that would work at preserving peace. All cultures member of the Galactic Federation would unite together as one, and become stronger against the Nebu and other trouble makers” (2, p.256)
Elena Danaan lists the main races that are part of the GFW and are involved in assisting our planet: people from Alpha Centauri, Andromedams. Arcturians, Lyrans, Pleiadeans (Ashaari), people from Procyon, Sirius B, Tau Ceti, Telossi, Ummit and Vegans (see 1, pp. 315-316)
THE LYRAN WARS The Lyran wars are described as the ones that led to the scattering of the humanoids that lived in a star system they called ‘Man’ and we call Kepler 62 (14). What caused the war that eventually led to the spreading of the people to all corners of our milky way? Here’s a part from ‘A Gift from the Stars’:
Lyra – The Harp (6)
“In reason of an invasion from the Ciakahrr Empire (3), which unfolded into a terrible war, most of these populations fled this system a very long time ago and at the present time, the inhabitants of the Man system are now reptiloid hybrids and under circumscription of the Ciakahrr Empire.
At the time colossal Ciakahrr armadas attacked savagely the planets of the Man system and, taken by surprise, the local races weren’t even equipped to withstand such a cataclysm of this scale. The combat was harsh and violent, and casualties were nonetheless on both sides, but the Ciakahrr had the victory on their side….Heartbroken, billions of Man people left in gigantic arks with testimony of their cultures and habitats.” (1, p.183)
TERRAFORMING OF PLANETS AT VARIOUS PLACES IN OUR MILKY WAY The people from Lyra fled and created new worlds to live on. Some of them joined other people on certain planets, but it seems that a lot of them went to uninhabited planets and ‘terraformed’ them, in the sense that they made them liveable. Here’s an excerpt from Thor Han from a video from April 16, 2020 (7):
“I am named by a race Pleiadian from the Pleiades, but this is not my original world. The Pleiades cluster of star is very young and when we arrived there there wasn’t any world able to sustain life. We are Lyrans, we fled our systems because it was attacked by the Ciakahrr empire what you call the reptilian empire, and the survivor colonies fled a little bit everywhere, where they could. Four of our colonies found this cluster, and we settled there, we terraformed the planets and we started colonies. We are named Pleiadians because we live there, but we are Lyrans.” (7)
and
“The Pleiades are a young stellar cluster….the Humanoid species that colonized it arrived a long time ago from the Man system in what you call the Lyran zone. They were colonies of refugees carrying in giant arks three of the four original racial group: Ahel, Noor and Taal” (1, p.248)
THE ORION WARS Relatively recently I did a page on these Orion Wars (8). Alex Collier talked about these wars and he said that they lasted for about 600,000 years. During these wars the Council of Nine (Five) was created and after these wars not only the Galactic Federation of Worlds was formed but the Andromedan Council as well (9).
Artist’s impression of a (relatively short) Ciakahrr (11)
PUTTING THE PIECES TOGETHER: FIRST THE LYRAN WARS THEN THE ORION WARS The first variant seems to be the most logical, at least in my humble opinion. The humanoids were seeded in the Lyra Zone, the Ciakahrr came and the humanoids fled to all corners of our universe to colonize new worlds. This led to colonies that ended up in Vega like the Adari (10) who changed the color of their skin to adapt to the blue star. The Pleiades were colonized – a long time ago – by humanoids from the Man-system that was viciously attacked by the Ciakahrr.
These colonies were formed and the people adapted to their new worlds. Then in the Orion zone a terrible war broke out between the Nebu Grays (and Reptilians according to Alex Collier) and many humanoids. This led to the formation of the Orion Council of Nine (Five) and ultimately the creation of both the Galactic Federation of Worlds and the Andromedan Council. All with the purpose to prevent such a terrible war from ever happening again.
PUTTING THE PIECES TOGETHER: FIRST THE ORION WARS AND THEN THE LYRAN WARS Recently another theory was introduced. This theory holds that there already was a Galactic Federation of Worlds BEFORE the Lyran wars even occurred! Read with me:
“100.000 years ago, when these devastating conflicts occurred on Earth and in this sector of the galaxy, the young Galactic Federation of Worlds got involved. Led at the time by the Pleiadians….”
Then only 88,000 BC ago the Lyran event took place as is described:
“Man: The Lyran Refugees. 88,000 BC – The Ciakahrr Empire ransacked the Man System in the Lyra zone. The survivors, on board Arks carrying the archives and DNA bank of their worlds, fled in a widespread diaspora, in search for new worlds to establish colonies” (2, p. 500)
Some of them arrived four thousand years later in our solar system.
To me this raises a few serious questions, the biggest being: how can there be a Galactic Federation of Worlds consisting of people (headed by Pleiadeans) that are from all kinds of planets and worlds that were only colonized AFTER the Lyran Wars (there were no Pleiadeans before the Lyran wars, they lived in the Man-system) when the Lyran Wars didn’t even happen yet?
I would discard this theory right away, if it weren’t that this theory was given to Elena Danaan by Enki himself and presented as the true history of our world.
Elena Danaan says that migrants from Lyra went directly to Earth – Fragment from interview with Robert Kalil, november 2022 (13)
CONCLUSION I hope that my logic is flawed somewhere and some people suggested that there were perhaps different timelines or more Lyran wars, but I don’t think that makes sense. Let’s hope I overlooked something somewhere, or misinterpreted it. So far it doesn’t seem to add up. Please correct me if I’m wrong. Share, comment and think along.
By releasing her book ‘The Seeders‘ Elena Danaan ended the moratorium on the information in it (1,2). She was advised not to share some information from the book because it might be used by people with bad intent to twist the information around, just like we have seen after Elena started to talk about her second meeting with Enki in that video with Dani Henderson (3). All of a sudden Enki was portrayed as the evil A.I. force and his half-brother Enlil suddenly was the hero of the universe (4,5).
Because I didn’t want to provide the ‘enemy’ with more ammunition to attack her I remained silent on what she said in that video relating to the ‘Grail’ that Enki would have brought back, because it did trigger – and still does – some questions which I would like to share with you. Let’s first watch the fragment (1’30” m) from (3):
Elena Danaan talks about the Genetic Template, Enki’s Grail – Excerpt taken from (3), at around 1h02m
THE ORIGINAL DNA TEMPLATE OF THE SEEDERS BEFORE THE ARRIVAL OF THE ANUNNAKI In this fragment Elena talks about how Enki managed to save the original template of humanity. In her new book she revealed the names of these 11 original species, who are from an intergalactic origin (6). They didn’t add their genomes to the original Earth-DNA some 65 million years ago, but they did it with some time in between. And it is good to notice that even though the Intergalactic Confederation (7) seems to exist of 24 species, only 11 of them contributed their genetics to our ancestors.
Somehow this led to a black human which was regarded by the arriving Anunnaki as ‘black primates’ who seemed useful material for their own purposes, like mining for gold.
ENKI ADDED ANUNNAKI GENES Some 370.000 thousand years ago (Seeders, p.494) the Anunnaki arrived and this eventually resulted in two main genetic effects evidently: first, the addition of Enki-genes to the the black primate (with its intergalactic Pa-Taal roots) and secondly the complete mix-up of our ancestor’s DNA by Enlil and his factions.
PHASE 3 OF GENETIC INFLUX FROM OUR OWN GALAXY After all this we were hybridized by all kinds of humanoid beings from our own galaxy (except a few Gray species at the end of the line). See (6) for the names.
Artist’s impression of a Grail (8)
WHAT GENOMES DOES THE GENETIC TEMPLATE GRAIL CONTAIN? The idea expressed in the above excerpt – and in the book – is that Enki was able to store and save the original template, but what does that really mean? Is that the original template of the Pa-Taal Extra-Galactic species? Or is it perhaps the template + Enki’s Anunnaki-genes? And if this template would actually be used in med-beds to restore our DNA, what happens to all the DNA from our galactic friends who interbred/hybridized with us afterwards? Is that DNA going to be removed? Or has that DNA never been downgraded because it was done after the initial mix-up of our genes by Enlil and consorte?
What information is stored in Enki’s Grail? The template of 11 races, 12 or 13, or perhaps 21 or 22? Do we really want the Anunnaki genes to be returned and activated, or should we trust Enki and believe that his kind of Anunnaki genes are indeed way ‘better’ than those of his half-brother? And what about the Anunnaki, being half humanoid/half Gray? Aren’t we activating all kinds of Gray-genomes when we activate the Anunnaki genes? And if 65 million of years of evolution led to a black primate that the Anunnaki initially thought was simple, how long would it have taken for us to really express the qualities of our intergalactic Seeders?
Or was it Enki who managed to actually upgrade and really use the information from these Intergalactic Seeders to make an activated human being who was even able to connect to his ancient Extra-Galactic Seeders? If that were the case then we should thank Enki on our knees for speeding up our evolution that fast (or was it too unnatural to evolve that fast?).
Well, let’s hope we can get some answers on these highly relevant questions above. If you got some interesting thoughts, don’t hesitate to respond below.
BALANCING ANUNNAKI KARMA BY ENKI/EA The Anunnaki have done terrible things on our planet and during these current times things are done to redeem those deeds. We have seen how people like Enlil had to face a trial with Anu and Enki being present as well (9). This resulted in the imprisonment of Enlil and the removal of Earth from Enlil’s son Ninurta. Another way to balance the karma is done by Ea’s act to bring back this ‘template grail’. Although the Intergalactic Confederation has every imaginable genome template of the universe, it was important that Enki, himself, brought this template back to Earth, because of this karmic balancing.
In the video below from december 4, 2022, Elena explains all this very clearly.
Elena Danaan talks about Ea/Enki and the return of the Original Human Genome, the Grail and the karmic element involved (10)
Update January 2023: In a new year’s message Ea spoke about the ‘Adamic DNA Sample’ that he brought with him. Elena Danaan adds some interesting comments:
Elena’s commentary: I believe that Ea refers to the fear surrounding the Adamic DNA sample that he brought back and that is now implemented into the new medical technologies mass produced on Luna. He makes a point here, saying that if you are offered to try a medical technology that is offering to heal or to repair you, or activate what is dormant in you, well you may as well take it.
But if this technology adds up to your body foreign, artificial or chemical elements, or offers to “upgrade” you, or even add some artificial elements to your organic body, you may want to think first if this is beneficial to you or if this has an agenda. So, Ea bringing back the Adamic sample is about a repairing. It is not something artificial or even biological that is going to be put into your body, no; it is a frequency key.
Because DNA is frequency, and the DNA blue-print is about holographic dynamic geometry. This frequency code will activate what was blocked a long time ago and unlock the true potential of the Earth-Human DNA. It will activate what is already there. Nothing is added, nothing is removed; it is a holographic frequency code, a very complex formula. This key is being implemented in the new medical beds and it will re-pair the damaged and disconnected elements of Human DNA, and reconnect its broken Hydrogen bounds.” (11)
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Welcome to the final part of the ‘Destruction of Atlantis‘-trilogy. You can find the other two in the links section (1,2). This third part is based on the material by Radu Cinamar. Radu Cinamar is a pseudonym for a Romanian who has written a series of books that started off with ‘Transylvanian Sunrise’. Dr. Michael Salla has had a number of interviews with Peter Moon who is the publisher and co-author of the first books (3,4,5). I also wrote a few articles based on this source (6-11). Elena Danaan mentioned him as a valuable source as well (12).
Image from Forgotten Genesis, p. 205
THE ATLANTIS CHAPTER IN FORGOTTEN GENESIS In the sixth book of the series called ‘Forgotten Genesis’ Cinamar dedicates a chapter to Atlantis (13). In the book Radu Cinamar is given the unique possibility by people from Aleppos to use advanced technology that enables him to holographically watch the history of mankind. With a kind of glass he is also able to tune into those elements that he finds more interesting, or that require more information. The holographic experience is truly interactive with his own consciousness (14).
Radu places the total disappearance of Atlantis at 11,500 B.C. He says that “…the continent already began to sink dramatically and crumble into islands about 1,000-1,200 years before the final cataclysm” (p.202)
He also adds: “Atlantis therefore did not die ‘in one day and one night’ as has been said. Her submerging went a long way and went in stages, her last vestige disappearing in to the water about 13,500 years ago.” (p.203)
After reading the chapter once again I can confirm that there is NO mention of the Anunnaki in it at all. There is a lot of talk about the wise E-N-L branch and that Atlantis belonged to that branch, and the genetically inferior E-N-K branch.
The destruction of Atlantis does not appear to be the result of human actions, but came as a result of changes at the crust level of our planet: “The sinking of Atlantis was also due to major changes that occurred at the Earth’s crust level during that period. I saw the holographic images depicting the rearrangement of the Earth’s crust. Basically ‘it rotated and then arrived at its current structure.” (p.204)
There is word about a certain disconnection that would have taken place between the etheric and the physical realms, and also about the emergence of a more materialistic group on Atlantis. All that, however is not mentioned as a cause for the final deluge and destruction of the continent.
Bermuda islands (according to the account of Radu Cinamar Bermuda is one of the remnants of Atlantis, 16)
THE REBEL E-N-L GROUP In Cinamar’s chapter there is a group that performed some unwanted experiments; they are called ‘the rebel E-N-L group’:
“In Atlantis, all human beings belonged to the E-N-L branches. After a while, and due to some subtle influences, some of those beings began to turn towards less orthodox actions, pursuing personal interest; and in particular, seizing the power of leadership and control of very advanced technologies. Thus they began to engage in strange cross-breedings between species, using E-N-K beings for this purpose as they were considered underdeveloped and, in their mind, could serve as guinea pigs for those strange hybridizations.
The main mistake of the E-N-L beings who rebelled in this way during the Atlantean period was that they ignored one obvious fact: they, like the E-N-K evolved from the same DNA structure. The E-N-K beings were therefore their genetic brothers.
…Due to the fact that the rebels were beings who already possessed great powers and advanced knowledge, their negative actions and intentions had very strong reverberations throughout the world. By accumulation, a terrible shock came to human civilization as the frequency of energy dropped sharply.” (pp. 211-212)
COMPARING THE THREE VERSIONS ON THE DESTRUCTION OF ATLANTIS When comparing the three versions it is interesting to note that both Ashayana Deane and Patricia Cori share information that puts the cause of the destruction of the continent in the hands of groups that are highly influenced by the Anunnaki, either genetically or through agreements. It would have been human actions that would have caused the end of Atlantis in a very rapid way; only allowing the people to flee underground or through spaceships in what appears to be not much more than a day or two, just like Plato would have said (15).
The account of Radu Cinamar is different. He says that Atlantis took more than 1000 years to sink, and he is a bit vague about the ultimate cause of the final flooding. He mentions a major change in the Earth’s crust; he talks about disconnections between etheric and physical realms and he describes the E-N-L rebel group. What also is noteworthy is that Cinamar doesn’t talk about any role of the Anunnaki in the final days, but he does talk a lot about the wise and spiritually advanced E-N-L group and the genetically primitive E-N-K group.
Somehow this rings some alarm bells…for is it just mere coincidence that the first three letters of these groups highly correspond with Enki and Enlil? And isn’t it odd that there is no mention of Enlil or Enki in the book? Isn’t it odd that the Anunnaki are only shortly mentioned in the last chapter, and only in a very favorable light? Could it be that Radu Cinamar was shown a certain ‘edited’ edition of our history by these beings from Apellos in order to whitewash the role of the Anunnaki in the destruction of Atlantis? Let’s wait and see what Elena Danaan has to say about the causes of the destruction of Atlantis in her upcoming book!
See Endnote 135 for a perspective that (to me) is more realististic about the Anunnaki group that came to downgrade our genetics. Endnote 138 provides a part of the perspective by Alex Collier on the Fall of Atlantis, which can be called the fourth variant, which is again different than the three accounts that I described.
So far, relatively little was written about the Anunnaki on this website, but they keep on appearing more and more in various sources so I decided to try and get a grip on what we know about them. As you may have noticed I use the information from Elena Danaan as the main and most reliable source. This article delves into the possible relationship between the Anunnaki and the Sirius triple star system based on what Elena has learned from her sources and I compare it with a book by Radu Cinamar.
Ardaana (2)
INTRODUCTION Before I start off I need to say a bit about recent things that happened. For this current article I use information from a June 27, 2022 video (1), which was the last video before Ardaana from the Galactic Federation of Worlds suggested not to say anything more about the contents of the book Elena Danaan is writing, before it is published (2).
The main reason for that being the abuse of the information by all kinds of disinformers who twist the information to create confusion. As soon as the book is published it will be known who first came up with the ideas and people will be able to read the complete story without having their heads brainwashed by all kinds of distortions (4). This will give them a better chance to make up their minds themselves to what resonates and what does not.
THE ANNUNAKI AND SIRIUS – TEMPORARY RULERS In the video from June 27, 2022 Dani Henderson asked Elena Danaan to tell us about the origin of the Anunnaki. You can watch her answer yourself at (1). She said that they are from a higher density and that at the moment they arrived on Earth, which would have been about 360,000 years ago, they were having a rulership on the Orion Zone and the Sirius Triple Star System. They are hybrids from Sirius B humans and some Gray Species of Orion. They are hybrid human greys (16).
She said that they are very tall (5) and at the time when they arrived on Earth they had their headquarters in Sirius B. So, you could say that they are (were) Sirians, but they call themselves Anunnaki. Well things changed and the Nebu took power in the Orion Zone and the Anunnaki withdrew. I’m not sure if they withdrew from the Sirius system as well.
RADU CINAMAR In a Q&A from July 8, 2022 (6) Elena was asked if she could sum up a few sources that she trusted, and she didn’t name many. Besides Alex Collier she mentioned the books by Radu Cinamar. For those who frequent this site more often Cinamar is a ‘regular guest’ (7).
Even though I have bought all of his books (I still need to read most of them, though) it doesn’t mean that I resonate with everything he writes. Of course ‘not resonating’ is a popular term these days, which can be used to say that some information doesn’t feel right, but it can also be used as an excuse to hide the fact that you are annoyed by certain aspects because it doesn’t fit your own perspective on life. The term ‘resonates’ seems to imply something like ‘divine knowing’, whereas it might as well be the result of resistance from the ego.
Well, having said that, it would have been great if Cinamar and Danaan would have been two of a kind as far as their information goes, but I did come across something that doesn’t seem to match. Here’s a part on the Anunnaki and Sirius from Cinamar:
“Many books have already been written in which the Anunnaki are blamed for all the evil of the Earth, but most often, they are associated with extraterrestrial beings with reptilian traits. The fundamental error, which is based upon incorrect information and conclusions, is the correlation of the evil reptilian beings with the Sirian beings known as the Anunnaki.
This is even more strange, given that the Sirians are the ones who initiated and supported in direct collaboration with the plans of the subtle celestial entities who serves as governors of the galaxy, the process of birth and evolution of human beings on Earth.
…As I said, the Sirians are at the root of the birth and formation of the human civilization, and they are also at the root of human DNA, supporting its evolution for ages and helping humanity in the key points of its development, both from the spiritual point of view as well as the material.
…. At one point the man from Apellos told me that from their original basic branch, which is the Sirius A system, secondary branches have appeared over time in different areas of the galaxy, but the Sirians in the Sirius A system are called Anunnaki which means ‘those who come from the Divine Light‘ (12, pp. 261-262)
…The Anunnaki are considered to be true spiritual masters in the galaxy, and that is why, if they support us, this is implicitly a kind of ‘recommendation’ to other advanced extraterrestrial civilizations who will understand that this is important.” (p.267)
ANUNNAKI AND THE SIRIANS In Elena Danaan’s A Gift from the Stars (5) she gives the following description of the meaning of the word ‘Anunnakene’.
“They later took on the name of Anunnakene: ‘Human like’, given to them by the Orion Reptiloids, as they looked human but only in appearance. Their genetics was predominantly reptiloid….The Anunnaki eventually left Terra but before they did, they genetically engineered a large group of human specimens to a diminished level of consciousness in order to have a race of slaves to mine mainly the gold and other resources for them.” (5, pp. 231-232).
Well, that definition is different from ‘those of the Divine Light’ and their acts as well, I would say. Cinamar seems to portray the Anunnaki as some kind of Galactic Heroes. It is complicated to say anything sensible about all this, since I don’t have an implant and neither have I been shown the history of our world through advanced holographic means by beings from an underground world.
What I do want to suggest is that there might just be some kind of mix-up here. On the page of the Nibiru-ship (11) Elena says that the Anunnaki have a planet in the star system called Immaru (13) which would be in a parallel dimension, but in the same location as the Sirius system, and they use the Orion portal as a door into our dimension.
Source: Istock photo (15)
Although they might have occupied the Sirian system in our dimension for a while, that doesn’t make them Sirian in the sense that they can be compared with the Sirians who would indeed have been instrumental in governing and monitoring our development on our planet, just like it was said by Cinamar.
Perhaps he just mixed up the various groups of Sirius and thought that the Anunnaki were in some way related to the Sirian High Council (14), or is Aleppos trying to fool him into believing that the Anunnaki were a bunch of heroes? Why is there no mention of Enki or Enlil in his historical account? What is that all about the E-N-L and E-N-K branches?
SOME FINAL REFLECTIONS Well, I guess no one said that it would be easy. I think we can use an ark or two to put all the pieces together in order to finally truly understand our history. Besides all the deliberate misinformation initiatives, we are also confronted with the true explorational work: sources with the best intentions don’t necessarily have all the information, but they might have certain elements from a certain perspective. If you add to all this the importance of concepts that are not common place at all (like aliens, parallel dimensions, advanced technologies, portals, hybridizations, timelines), it’s no surprise that not everything is understood in the first round.
I suppose we need to be patient, but that doesn’t mean that we just have to sit and wait and don’t do any research at all. Feel free to think along and share your constructive thoughts below in the comments.
The original version of this article stems from July 2022. Almost three years later I wanted to add a teleportation experience by Robert Renaud and I noticed that the initial introduction has become outdated. I referred to a moratorium of information that Elena had introduced around the time that she first met both Enki and the Seeders. You can still watch the related video (1). This page however, is not about a moratorium, but about people who describe their teleportation process. Enjoy the ride!
Quantum Transportation (7)
MOVING TO ENKI’S SHIP In her video from June 27, 2022 (2) Elena elaborately describes her second meeting with Enki who was of a 6th Density (3). One of the intriguing things she told us was the way she was teleported from Thor Han’s ship (4) to Enki’s ship. It was a surprise for her, for Thor Han only told her shortly before she was actually sent to Enki.
At first Elena Danaan thought she was about to enter an Andromedan ship, but Thor Han corrected her and said that it was not Andromedan. She got quite excited and Thor Han told her that she had to calm down for that was necessary to be properly teleported.
Well, while saying aloud ‘Eh, Telepor-?’, she apparently was calm enough for it to happen. She joked that she must have said the last syllables ‘-tation’ when she was already on the other side 🙂
The method that was used was not plain teleportation where your molecules would actually ‘travel’ from point A to B, through C (the space between) but she calls it ‘quantum teleportation‘, meaning that there is no in between: you are instantly on spot B (without any C). She says that this process is incredibly fast but still you can feel the deconstruction of your molecules, as if you feel billions or trillions of needles everywhere. This process is accompanied by a certain noise that she was unable to describe. Then there is a big flash of light and your eyes need some time to adapt, you take a few deep breaths and your vital organs need a couple of seconds to adapt.
And there she was in a huge room with bright lights about to meet Enki again. If you want to know what happened next watch the video (2).
Since Enki was 6th Density, Elena must have worn one of those special space suits with these amazing crystal-based frequency belts (6).
ANASTASIA AND TELEPORTING After putting out this article I had a walk outside and was reminded of this image of Anastasia from the Ringing Cedar series who would have teleported from one side of a lake to the other. I’m not sure this was quantum teleportation, but it was a kind of teleportation alright. Wouldn’t it be nice to take a look at the material by Vladimir Megré and compare it with the recent developments?
In book 4 we can read in the chapter ‘Where do we go when we sleep?‘ the following conversation between Anastasia and Vladimir Megré:
Book 4: Co-Creation (8)
“This is what happened once when I asked her directly, “Tell me, Anastasia, can you teleport yourself in space? You know, move your body from one place to another?”
“Why are you asking me about this, Vladimir?”
“First answer me concretely. Can you or not?”
“Vladimir, all people have that ability. But I am not certain I can explain to you how natural this process is. You will withdraw from me again and consider me a sorceress. You won’t like being with me.”
“You mean you can?”
“Yes, I can,” Anastasia replied, slowing, and she looked down.
“Then demonstrate, show me how this happens.”
“Maybe first I should try explaining—”
“No, Anastasia, first show me. It’s always more interesting to watch than to listen. Afterward you can explain.”
Anastasia stood up, resigned, and closed her eyes. She tensed a little and vanished. Puzzled, I looked from side to side. I even felt the spot where she had just been. But there was only crushed grass in that spot, and Anastasia was gone. I saw her standing on the opposite shore of the lake. I looked at her and was silent.
She shouted, “Should I swim to you or again—”
“Again,” I replied and, without blinking, so as not to miss anything, began watching the figure of Anastasia standing on the other shore of the small lake. Suddenly, she vanished. Dissolved. There wasn’t even a haze in the spot where she had been. I kept watching without blinking.
“I’m here, Vladimir,” Anastasia’s voice rang out beside me. Once again she was standing a meter away. I moved away from her slightly and sat down on the grass, trying not to show amazement or agitation. For some reason, I thought, “What if she got it into her head to dissolve my body and not reassemble it?”
“A body can be fully dissolved and its atoms split only by its owner. This is available only to the person, Vladimir,” Anastasia spoke first. (8, pp. 127-128)
JP REFLECTS ON TELEPORTATION SPHERE IN ATLANTIC ARK The two sections above were written in July 2022. Since that time we have encountered this teleportation phenomenon a couple of times. We have spoken about how the astral body apparently can be solidified to a certain degree after being teleported to a spaceship (9) and Elena described how she was even ‘reshuffled’ into a higher density being based of a former life (10). In december 2023, Dr. Michael Salla published another interview with JP (11) who talked about a group of Nordics that seemed to study the blueish/fluid-like sphere in the Atlantic Ark (12,13) that had teleportation functionality.
In het excerpt below you can hear JP reflect upon this and how advanced that technology must be, since it not only must reintegrate the molecules of your body based on your DNA, but your body is filled with microscopic organisms that also all hold their own DNA. It makes me wonder how the ‘soul’ is transferred by such a teleportation device. What do you think about all this? Let yourself be heard at (14)
JP talks about the teleportation sphere in the Atlantic Ark (11)
ROBERT RENAUD DESCRIBES HIS TELEPORTATION EXPERIENCE WITH KORENDI DEVICE I was introduced to Robert Renaud by Dr. Salla in a video from May 2025 (15). Robert Renaud says to have been in contact with a species called the ‘Korendi’ from 1961 to about 2007. This species is also described in Elena Danaan’s work (16). In a secondary work by an unknown writer a piece of the original work of Robert Renaud is quoted. In this particular excerpt you can read how Renaud experienced his teleportation over a distance of 2,500 kms in one second:
“This was truly a unique experience — unlike anything I had ever known before. When you first enter, a tingling sensation like an electric shock runs through from head to foot. Then suddenly there is a feeling that can only be described as disorientation and blankness, accompanied by an impression of sudden disintegration into weightless, massless vapor, like a ghost!
For an instant you cannot think. All you know is that you exist. Your brain is at this instant a mass of electrical impulses, which are being transmitted like radio. Our mind, without these physical senses, is self-existing, and is independent of the universe. It travels via the Ultraconscious to the body reassembled at the other end. The tingling returns suddenly, then vanishes. You are through, and still alive and in one whole piece. This translation has taken one second! One second — and 2,500 miles were just traversed!! The man on the other end greeted us and led us to the main office…” (20, p.34)