What Came First? The Lyran or the Orion Wars?

When I first heard about the Lyran Wars I used to think it made sense to place them before the Orion Wars, but recently some doubts have been cast about this. In order to understand our history it may turn out to be relevant to make up your mind about what you think is to most likely order. This article tries to assist you in this by using five key galactic events that can be ordered in time in different ways. Are you ready for this extraordinary trip through our galactic history?

Logo Council of Five (4)

It is up to you to place these five key elements in the right order. I present them to you in random order.

During the Orion Wars the (Orion) Council of Nine was created. Annax writes about this in The Seeders: “The former Council of Nine from Uru an Na, that you call Orion, was formed a few hundred thousand of your linear years ago, in the purpose to protect the local cultures of the Orion zone against the growing power of the Nebu Empire.” (2, p.256). The Council of Nine (Five) mainly assisted in organizing the rebellion against the Nebu by arming the resistance that developed into a group called ‘The Black League’.

In ‘A Gift from the Stars’ (1) the Galactic Federation of Worlds (GFW) is described as “Created to maintain peace and justice in this galaxy” (p.314). Annax mentions the GFW in a message from January 2022. He said that “the Galactic Federation of Worlds is at work to maintain balance in Nataru, our galaxy. Balance works in favor of evolution.” (2, p.256)

The Galactic Federation of Worlds Logo (4)

When was the Galactic Federation of Worlds created? Annax said: “Shortly after these events [wars in Orion Zone, battle between the Nebu and the Black League] the Galactic Federation of Worlds came into existence in the idea of creating a structure that would work at preserving peace. All cultures member of the Galactic Federation would unite together as one, and become stronger against the Nebu and other trouble makers” (2, p.256)

Elena Danaan lists the main races that are part of the GFW and are involved in assisting our planet: people from Alpha Centauri, Andromedams. Arcturians, Lyrans, Pleiadeans (Ashaari), people from Procyon, Sirius B, Tau Ceti, Telossi, Ummit and Vegans (see 1, pp. 315-316)

The Lyran wars are described as the ones that led to the scattering of the humanoids that lived in a star system they called ‘Man’ and we call Kepler 62. What caused the war that eventually led to the spreading of the people to all corners of our milky way? Here’s a part from ‘A Gift from the Stars’:

Lyra – The Harp (6)

“In reason of an invasion from the Ciakahrr Empire (3), which unfolded into a terrible war, most of these populations fled this system a very long time ago and at the present time, the inhabitants of the Man system are now reptiloid hybrids and under circumscription of the Ciakahrr Empire.

At the time colossal Ciakahrr armadas attacked savagely the planets of the Man system and, taken by surprise, the local races weren’t even equipped to withstand such a cataclysm of this scale. The combat was harsh and violent, and casualties were nonetheless on both sides, but the Ciakahrr had the victory on their side….Heartbroken, billions of Man people left in gigantic arks with testimony of their cultures and habitats.” (2, p.183)

The people from Lyra fled and created new worlds to live on. Some of them joined other people on certain planets, but it seems that a lot of them went to uninhabited planets and ‘terraformed’ them, in the sense that they made them liveable. Here’s an excerpt from Thor Han from a video from April 16, 2020 (7):

I am named by a race Pleiadian from the Pleiades, but this is not my original world. The Pleiades
cluster of star is very young and when we arrived there there wasn’t any world able to sustain life.
We are Lyrans, we fled our systems because it was attacked by the Ciakahrr empire what you call
the reptilian empire, and the survivor colonies fled a little bit everywhere, where they could.
Four of our colonies found this cluster, and we settled there, we terraformed the planets and we
started colonies. We are named Pleiadians because we live there, but we are Lyrans.
” (7)


The Pleiades are a young stellar cluster….the Humanoid species that colonized it arrived a long time ago from the Man system in what you call the Lyran zone. They were colonies of refugees carrying in giant arks three of the four original racial group: Ahel, Noor and Taal” (1, p.248)

Relatively recently I did a page on these Orion Wars (8). Alex Collier talked about these wars and he said that they lasted for about 600,000 years. During these wars the Council of Nine (Five) was created and after these wars not only the Galactic Federation of Worlds was formed but the Andromedan Council as well (9).

Artist’s impression of a (relatively short) Ciakahrr (11)

The first variant seems to be the most logical, at least in my humble opinion. The humanoids were seeded in the Lyra Zone, the Ciakahrr came and the humanoids fled to all corners of our universe to colonize new worlds. This led to colonies that ended up in Vega like the Adari (10) who changed the color of their skin to adapt to the blue star. The Pleiades were colonized – a long time ago – by humanoids from the Man-system that was viciously attacked by the Ciakahrr.

These colonies were formed and the people adapted to their new worlds. Then in the Orion zone a terrible war broke out between the Nebu Grays (and Reptilians according to Alex Collier) and many humanoids. This led to the formation of the Orion Council of Nine (Five) and ultimately the creation of both the Galactic Federation of Worlds and the Andromedan Council. All with the purpose to prevent such a terrible war from ever happening again.

Recently another theory was introduced. This theory holds that there already was a Galactic Federation of Worlds BEFORE the Lyran wars even occurred! Read with me:

100.000 years ago, when these devastating conflicts occurred on Earth and in this sector of the galaxy, the young Galactic Federation of Worlds got involved. Led at the time by the Pleiadians….”

Then only 88,000 BC ago the Lyran event took place as is described:

“Man: The Lyran Refugees. 88,000 BC – The Ciakahrr Empire ransacked the Man System in the Lyra zone. The survivors, on board Arks carrying the archives and DNA bank of their worlds, fled in a widespread diaspora, in search for new worlds to establish colonies” (2, p. 500)

Some of them arrived four thousand years later in our solar system.

To me this raises a few serious questions, the biggest being: how can there be a Galactic Federation of Worlds consisting of people (headed by Pleiadeans) that are from all kinds of planets and worlds that were only colonized AFTER the Lyran Wars (there were no Pleiadeans before the Lyran wars, they lived in the Man-system) when the Lyran Wars didn’t even happen yet?

I would discard this theory right away, if it weren’t that this theory was given to Elena Danaan by Enki himself and presented as the true history of our world.

Elena Danaan says that migrants from Lyra went directly to Earth – Fragment from interview with Robert Kalil, november 2022 (13)

I hope that my logic is flawed somewhere and some people suggested that there were perhaps different timelines or more Lyran wars, but I don’t think that makes sense. Let’s hope I overlooked something somewhere, or misinterpreted it. So far it doesn’t seem to add up. Please correct me if I’m wrong. Share, comment and think along.

(1) Danaan, E. (2020) A Gift from the Stars.
(2) Danaan, E. (2022) The Seeders
(3) The Ciakahrr
(4) Image from (1), p. 313
(5) I came across the Logo at this site: https://ufos-disclosure.blogspot.com/2021/05/is-mars-in-midst-of-planetary.html
(6) National Coat of Arms of Ireland
(7) Extraterrestrial Contacts, April 16, 2020
(8) The Orion Wars
(9) The Zenae from the Andromedan Constellation
(10) Where did the Blue Gods of India Come from?
(11) I once downloaded this image many months ago, but I am unfortunately unable to track down its source. If you recognize it, please let me know. I have referenced every image I have used on this website so far.
(12) What happened 439 thousand years ago?
(13) Return of the Seeders, Serpent Knowledge, Thoth, Grey/Reptilians, The Nine – Elena Danaan & TSP

The Orion Wars

A Swiss friend of mine directed me to an old interview with Alex Collier from 1994. She highly admires Alex and his work, so I started to watch it as part of the Alex Collier Study Initiative 🙂 (1,2) In the video he talks about the Orion Wars. This page gathers information from Alex Collier and Elena Danaan on these terrible wars that would have taken place a few hundreds of thousands of years ago (3).

The Orion Nebula, M42 (11)

The Andromedans decided to create the Andromedan Council after the atrocities of the Orion wars that would have lasted for 600,000 years. You can hear Alex talk about it in the video excerpt below (5). He says that it was a war between the human species and the Reptilians. It would have brought the human race – in the universal sense of the word – to the brink of extinction. After all these years both parties were probably so fed up with the killings that the war was ended without any winner.

According to Annax, the Egaroth (3), not only the Andromedan Council but both the Galactic Federation of Worlds and the (Orion) Council of Nine, which now is the Council of Five, were formed during or afterwards in order to prevent these atrocities from ever happening again on such a huge scale.

On April 3, 2022, Elena was a guest at Robert Kalil’s channel (6). In that video she clearly describes the reasons for the Orion War: the control of the Orion Nebula, M42, which is a natural and very valuable portal with both interdimensional and time-travel properties (7). In the video below Elena mainly focuses on the Nebu (8), but in another video she said that the Nebu joined the Ciakahrr (9) who were also eyeing this ‘delicious’ portal (10). This then matches the words by Alex Collier who talked about the Reptilians as an important enemy in these Orion Wars.

It was not the first time that a portal was the reason and the trophy for terrible wars; you need only think of the Lyran wars that were fought long before the Orion Wars (7). The Emerther have warned about the Nebu group not so long ago through crop circles and other binary messages: they mentioned M42 in their messages as well (12).

A rebel group of humans, who called themselves the Black League, that fought against the overwhelming power of the Nebu and the Reptilians, came into existence after the destruction of a complete world with the assistance of the (now) Council of Five who helped them mainly strategically (3,10). They were the rebellion.

One of the ways that the people in that period managed to escape from the terror of the Nebu, was to learn to reach a higher frequency. Being in that higher density, they were unreachable for the Nebu. In The Seeders Elena Danaan devotes a chapter to the Orion Wars (13).

(1) Studying the Material from Alex Collier and the Andromedans
(2) The video interview from 1994 can be found at Alex Collier – Die Geschichte der Erde – english mit german sub – 1994
(3) In Contact 3 – Annax the Egaroth on the Orion Wars and the dark insider programs. (Jan 24th 2022) Annax talks about the Orion Wars. In that video he says that both the Council of Nine (which now is the Council of Five) and the Galactic Federation of Worlds was created as a result of these endless Orion Wars. If you push the link you get straight to the point where Annax says that this happened a few hundreds of thousands years ago.
(4) For more on the Andromedan Council head to The Zenae from the Andromedan Constellation
(5) Video Excerpt from (2) in which Alex Collier talks about the Orion Wars.

Alex Collier on the Orion Wars and the Founding of the Andromedan Council (2, 4)

(6) Orion Wars, Alpha Centurians/Mars, Quantum Contact, Council of Five, Val Thor – Elena Danaan
(7) On Portals, Stargates and Wormholes You can read about the Orion Nebula and the one in the Lyra constellation. It was probably this natural Portal or Vortex (M42) that was used by the Anunnaki to enter our solar system from their star system Immaru (see Nibiru, the Planet of the Anunnaki in the Immaru Star System)
(8) The Nebu
(9) The Ciakahrr
(10) Q&A Orion – May 25, 2021 (video)
(11) Astropoet
(12) Crop circles and Binary Messages
(13) Danaan, E. (2022) The Seeders. pp. 244-253.

The Sirian (High) Council

In the amazing information which can be found in Elena Danaan’s books and her videos I noticed the absence of the Sirian (high) Council. In her book ‘A Gift from the Stars‘ only 7 pages are dedicated to the people from Sirius and while searching for Sirius in the transcripts of her videos I couldn’t find a lot either (1,2). Much deals with the rather malevolent group called the Ashtar Collective Command, based in Sirius B (3). When thinking about Sirius and Elena Danaan the lovely face of Myrah immediately pops up. She is half Ashkeru and half Ahil (4,5).

Sirius in the night’s sky (10)

Since the Sirian (High) Council is often mentioned in other material, and the connection between humanity and Sirius is a very recurrent theme, I thought it worthwhile to present three of those sources. Perhaps we will discover why there is so little to be found about Sirius in Danaan’s material.

The Sirian High Council – Patricia Cori
Patricia Cori has written quite a few books in which she passes on information from a source that presents itself as the Sirian High Council (6). In the Starseed Dialogues we get an answer to questions on who they are and what their higher purpose is:

We are a delegation of light beings of the Galactic Federation holding frequency at the sixth density, and ours is a group of 144 representatives which includes: illuminated earth souls, Ascended Sirians from Satais (7), of these we are three primary speakers working through our channel Trydjya, Christed Extraterrestrials, Ascended Dolphin Beings and the Great Whales, Ascended Masters (The Overseers, 8), Angelic beings (the Guardians) and the Masters of the Aghartan Leadership.

Our purpose is to elevate consciousness of the multiverse in which we take part, serving where we can and gleaning what we can of what lies before us. Those who precede us, in turn, help lead us into the bright light. So is the process of soul climbing higher in the journey of infinite return, a process without beginning and without end.” (6, pp.19-20, 9)

The Sirian Council in David Rousseau’s book
When I came across the Sirian Council in David Rousseau’s book ‘Beyond our World’ (11) I was sure that it was time to write this page. In a chapter on the Ancient Mayans Rousseau writes: “Long ago, some wars broke out in the Orion star system. The reptilian beings started it. The reptilians were also very advanced, both technologically and spiritually….They doubtlessly became the greatest geneticists in our universe. As their world evolved, some of those who had gained power were parasitized by an involutionary entity that had managed to corrupt their minds and hearts, causing them to become self-centered, forcing them to turn their attention to themselves and not to others, thus creating a dissension in the balance and energy and within the federation itself.

The Orion Wars – Artist’s impression by Suntwirl (14)

War broke out. Worlds and civilizations were wiped out. Shock and fear weaved their way everywhere. Using a huge ship -the size of a planet – these involutive beings spread chaos and destruction. Since their aim was to block the evolution process, they succeeded in lowering the vibrations to keep the universe in the third and fourth dimensions.

That way, they were able to keep control and power and hold billions of souls in slavery throughout the system. Fortunately, the worlds that were in higher dimensions were able to keep their protection and the threat at bay. Yet clearly, the Federation had suffered a great blow. The Sirius Council, understanding that the involutionary beings were seeking to block the Federation in its process of raising consciousness, ordered that troops of specialized warriors be formed to deal with this terrible threat -the worst they had known so far.

Only the ascended masters’ intervention ended this destructive armed conflict. However, this conflict was deported, if I may say so, in order to be brought to a conclusion all the same, because it is not possible to interfere with the souls’ choices and this war takes many forms even today. It takes place on one life sphere alone. For only this planet could accept and welcome it in this galactic dial”.

“Let me guess… the Earth?”

“Yes! Absolutely”.

The Sirian Council in the Voyagers Material
This idea of a higher dimensional group overseeing our universe is also an important theme in the work of Ashayana Deane (12). In her second volume the Sirian Council plays a crucial part in the creation of Tara, a higher-dimensional world, whose ‘fall’ would have eventually led to the creation of our solar system in the third dimension (13). Here’s an excerpt from this book (please read through the used terminology):

Approximately 560 million years ago (YA), upon the planet Tara within the Second Harmonic Universe), (your Earth is presently in the First Harmonic Universe), many ET and metaterrestrial races combined their genetic and energetic make-up to create a master race of beings that would serve as Guardians of the planet Tara. The Sirian Council from Harmonic Universe 2, along with several other groups were appointed as directors and overseers of the project, the Turaneusiam-1 (T-1) experiment.

Metaterrestrials from the Fourth and Fifth Harmonic Universes were the founders of this project, working through a seed race called the Lyrans from the Third Harmonic Universe. The Lyrans created a race of beings in Harmonic Universe 3 called the Elohim, who would become overseers for the Sirian races in Harmonic universe 2. The Elohim became one of the numerous supervisory groups within the Turaneusiam-1 experiment, due to the Sirian race contribution of genetic identity to the experiment.

Artist’s impression (15)

The Sirians and the Galactic Federation
Elena Danaan mentions that the T-Ashkeri (from Sirius B) are involved in three different ways with Terra, as part of the malevolent Ashtar Collective, the benevolent Ashtar Galactic Command or the Galactic Federation of Worlds (1, p.109)

In Deane’s work the Galactic Federation is also mentioned a few times in connection with the Sirian Council, for example in this part on the Pyramid:

The Great Pyramid was created to allow immediate intervention of the Sirian Council and Galactic Federation fleets should the Arc of the Covenant come under Anunnaki Resistance attack. While the pyramid was in operation as an interstellar teleport station, it served as the greatest deterrent to an Anunnaki Resistance invasion. The Great Pyramid was used as an active interstellar teleport station from the time of its construction 48,459 years ago to about 30,000 years ago (about 28,000 BC) (13, p. 62)

Patricia Cori also talks about a link between the Sirian High Council and the Galactic Federation (see paragraph on top)

This consistent mentioning of the Sirian Council as a very benevolent group overseeing our universe is not something to be ignored. I would surely love to see them integrated in the great story of our past that is also supported by the information from the Galactic Federation of Worlds or the Nine or the Seeder Races or the activating Arks. Please share your thoughts below.

Myrah, image taken from Interstellar Contacts

(1) Danaan, E. (2020) A Gift from the Stars. Amazon Press. In this excellent book three species are described, namely the Katayy, the Askeru-Taal and the Nommo (see pages 104-110).
(2) In ‘The Name of the Stars‘ the names that Sirius A, B and C would use themselves are given, respectively Ashkera, Thula and Emérya
(3) The Ashtar Galactic Command and the Ashtar Collective
(4) Myrah is this beautiful woman on the left. The image was taken from Elena Danaan’s website. You can find more about Myrah in various articles on Elena’s interstellar contacts-page. She shared with us information on ‘Alien Blood‘ in another article on this site. She has been instrumental in disconnecting Elena’s Danaan implant from the Nebu, to Thor Han from the Galactic Federation of Worlds.
(5) Ahil is a species that has Erra as its home planet in the star system of Taygeta. Thor Han is Ahel. Read more about them at ‘Getting acquainted with the Ahil
(6) Cori, P. (2008) The Starseed Dialogues: Soul Searching the Universe. California: North Atlantic Books. You can find an overview of all of her books at Patricia Cori’s website
(7) What to Think of Channeled Info Conflicting with Current Info? In this article you can read about Satais, being the name of Sirius B, in its sixth dimensional state probably.
(8) I guess these Ascended Masters/the Overseers are not to be confused with the New Age Ascended Masters who had their moment of fame at the end of the 20th and the beginning of the 21th century. I prefer to not mention them on this website 🙂
(9) I have quite a few books of Patricia Cori and somehow I opened the Starseed Dialogues in the chapter on the Sirius-Ra Connection and my fingers immediately found this page, which for me was a synchronistic event strengthening me in my belief that we should pay more attention to the role of Sirius in our past.
(10) Sirius on Crystalinks
(11) Rousseau, D. (2019) Beyond our World, part I: Stellar Soul. E-book only (I have been waiting for months for a paperback version to be published, but this hasn’t happened, so I bought the E-book)
(12) I have recently started to explore her work on the CDL-Plates in a few articles, namely ‘The genetic Origin of 666‘ and Once Upon a Time, some 950 Billion Years Ago
(13) Deane, A. (2002) Voyagers, volume II: The Secrets of Amenti – Emerald Covenant CDT Plate Translations.
(14) Orion Wars
(15) https://www.kiwireport.com/archeologists-just-discover-mystery-behind-pyramids/