Would you Prefer the Intergalactic-Only DNA Repair Treatment?

I was very happy to see Elena describe her two wonderful journeys in her 21st Contact video (1,2). There is much to say about all the things she described in that video of almost one hour. I would like to focus on something very important that Elena was shown on the Moon, while accompanied by Thor Han. It was about the Grail that Enki/Ea had brought back, and it explained a few questions that I already posed back in October 2022 (3), right after Elena Danaan published her masterpiece ‘The Seeders’ (4).

THE FREQUENCY KEY OF THE ORIGINAL HUMAN DNA
In the article ‘Trying to Understand Enki’s Genetic Template Grail‘ (3) I wrote a number of questions that had remained lying on the shelf for about half a year, and the current video answered nearly all of them. I think it is useful to quote the relevant part of that particular article. Remember that according to the historical account as described in Elena’s third disclosure book, a group of Intergalactic Seeder Races decided to add their genomes to a primate being some 65 million years ago.

A Bright Blue Plasma Tube, perhaps looking a bit like the Frequency Key of our Original Human DNA (8)

After some 64,5 million years the Anunnaki arrived and upgraded (and downgraded) our genetics creating a huge leap in our evolution. They (Enki) also added their own Anunnaki genes to the whole, and after that a number of other species from within our own Milky ‘Nataru’ Way added their DNA too (5). We have been through a lot these last nearly 400 millenia, but times seem to be changing for us. Our genetics have also suffered a lot, and much of our true (intergalactic) grandness has been sleeping in the back of our genes, so to speak. But then the Intergalactic Confederation (6) arrived and with them Enki, with what was called ‘The Grail’, a key to our great heritage.

What follows is an excerpt from that piece about this ‘Genetic Template Grail’, with an excerpt from the video (1) in which Elena clarifies nearly everything:

WHAT GENOMES DOES THE GENETIC TEMPLATE GRAIL CONTAIN? THE QUESTIONS
The idea expressed in the above excerpt – and in the book – is that Enki was able to store and save the original template, but what does that really mean? Is that the original template of the Pa-Taal Extra-Galactic species? Or is it perhaps the template + Enki’s Anunnaki-genes? And if this template would actually be used in med-beds to restore our DNA, what happens to all the DNA from our galactic friends who interbred/hybridized with us afterwards? Is that DNA going to be removed? Or has that DNA never been downgraded because it was done after the initial mix-up of our genes by Enlil and consorte?

What information is stored in Enki’s Grail? The template of 11 races, 12 or 13, or perhaps 21 or 22? Do we really want the Anunnaki genes to be returned and activated, or should we trust Enki and believe that his kind of Anunnaki genes are indeed way ‘better’ than those of his half-brother? And what about the Anunnaki, being half humanoid/half Gray? Aren’t we activating all kinds of Gray-genomes when we activate the Anunnaki genes? And if 65 million of years of evolution led to a black primate that the Anunnaki initially thought was simple, how long would it have taken for us to really express the qualities of our intergalactic Seeders? (3)

Elena Danaan explains the Frequency key of the Original 11-‘strand’ Human DNA (from (1))

THE ANSWERS
For me the crucial piece of information is that Ea/Enki has brought with him the original genetic blueprint of the original Seeder Races, which does not contain any of the alternations that the Anunnaki performed afterwards. Because of the very bad history of the Anunnaki on our planet I was a bit worried that we would have to ‘repair’ our genes with those Anunnaki-genes as well. It turns out that we are given at least the option to solely use the DNA-frequencies of the original mix of genomes by the Seeder races for the repair of our genetics. If we would like to use the DNA of other species that is also an option.

It also doesn’t mean that we would start to look like the ‘black heads’ as we were described by the Anunnaki on their arrival. As Thor Han laughingly said in all his wisdom our genomes would remain the same; it would not change our appearance at all.

SOME FINAL THOUGHTS
I loved to watch this video. Of course this also triggers a new set of questions, but I prefer to leave that for some other time. Let’s first cherish the beauty of this new information. What DNA-repair package would you take? From the Original Seeder races only, or would you take the full package (or could we even choose something in between)? I want to thank Elena for sharing this publicly with all of us. If you would like to share your thoughts or questions comment below or head for the Study Group (7).

FOOTNOTES
(1) CONTACT Ep. 21 ~ NEWS FROM SIRIUS B AND THE MOON ~ March 30 2023
(2) For an overview of her contact videos see Elena Danaan Articles and Contact Videos
(3) Trying to Understand Enki’s Genetic Template Grail
(4) Danaan, E. (2022) The Seeders
(5) Genetic Engineering and Genetic Mixing through Sexual Intercourse
(6) The Intergalactic Confederation
(7) The Elena Danaan and Disclosure Community Study Group
(8) Bright Blue Plasma Tube

Anu, Enlil and Enki and the Meeting with the Four Councils

On November 3, 2022 Elena Danaan released another mind-blowing video in her contact series (1,2). I would advise anyone to listen to the grand tale that was minutely described by Elena in about half an hour. This article summarizes the key points. Eliza Ayres has written a more extensive article on the meeting at her website (3), and I just discovered that Elena herself has also written an article on this event at her own website (4). I guess this meeting will be described in Elena Danaan’s next book as well 🙂

Anu, the Anunnaki King. Screenshot from video (1).

THE MEETING
On October 30, 2022 an extraordinary meeting took place in an undisclosed location. The members of this meeting were representatives of various councils: the High Council of the Galactic Federation of Worlds (20), The Council of Five (21), the Andromeda Council and the Intergalactic Confederation (5). The meeting took place – as apparently is commonplace amongst our stellar friends – using quantum holographic projection techniques (5).

This means that most of the participants were not physically present during the meeting, but their holographic projection was. This technique allows for everybody to completely interact with the others as if they were physically present, like a fully interactive holographic ‘zoom-meeting’. People from the Earth Alliance (“White Hats”) were also present.

ANU, THE ANUNNAKI KING
At the center of this meeting was the evaluation of the misdeeds of Enlil and his team during their interaction with humanity, starting some 374.000 years ago (6). Elena describes that the Tengri Herald of the High Council of the Galactic Federation (7), had already shown holographically the misdeeds for six hours in a row, before she joined the meeting herself. In the center was Anu with both his sons, Enki and Enlil. Elena described the Anunnaki king Anu:

Broadcasting from his homeworld located somewhere in the Orion zone, Anu was present, as a giant being of bright translucent light, sat on a high throne. I couldn’t tell if he was wearing clothes, because his body was so bright….He had a long elongated skull and bright blue eyes. He was magnificent and looked massive. Visually, he measured about 12 Ft high but I do not know if it was his real size or a magnified effect from his holographic projection, though, because Enki isn’t that tall.” (1, 4)

Anu (9)

When I take a look at this mythological person from ancient times, now holographically present in 2022, I cannot help but being impressed. The way he shines is quite amazing (8). In another recent article I pondered on the difference in appearance between the Anunnaki as we have come to know them, with their characteristic beards and the bald Anunnaki as they are portrayed consistently by Elena Danaan in her work (10).

In regard to the size of Anu, that size seems to match the tallness of the sleeping giant that JP has described during his visit to the subterranean world of Florida. That giant, Ningishzida was also about 12 feet (3.6 m) (11)

ENLIL, THE CHAINED SON
Let’s move on to Enlil, who is the main subject of this meeting. We have mentioned him a number of times in earlier articles (12). Elena describes him as well:

On Anu’s left hand (my right) was Enlil, in a yellow jumpsuit with black stripes on the side of its arms, attached to a seat by a collar and braces at his wrists and ankles. I could finally see what Enlil looked like and he was strikingly different from Enki, you could clearly tell them apart. Enlil was taller and more robust, and his face had a larger and stronger bone structure: prominent cheek bones, slanted eyes, and a larger nose. I couldn’t tell the color of his eyes. Maybe bronze or gold. This being radiated eons of power and military leadership. But for now, he looked as if he was tied as a prisoner and very resentful.“(1,4)

Tayel, Altean representitive of the Intergalactic Confederation – Screenshot from video (1). This illustration can also be found in The Seeders at p.136 (15,16)

When Enlil is described as being chained to a seat, I can’t help but think about that guy that worships Enlil, with his awkward comment on Elena having been murdered (14). Well, after the display of the misdeeds by Enlil, Enlil confessed to his father all the things had been shown before.

THE SEEDERS GROUP AND THE GENETIC TAMPERING
After this the Altean Tayel took to the floor and this is what he said:

“When they found Earth, the Anunnaki tempered with a genetic experiment belonging to the Intergalactic Confederation, without asking them, so there was a trespassing. The Terrans as a genetic experiment were under the Intergalactic Confederation’s protection until they were able to evolve in consciousness up to a certain level (where we are today).

One could argue that there were two kinds of tempering with the genetic experiment started by the Seeders. There was Enki who discovered the outer-galactic rich potential of the black primates he encountered and he would have sped up the evolution immensely by upgrading the human species.

Then there would have Enlil and his team with their destructive dumbing down of our genetic template. There still are a number of questions unanswered as far as I’m concerned: like did Enlil’s team take the upgraded human being (Adama) by Enki and used that as a template for the dumbing down effect, of did they somehow use the black primate as well as their basis? And when did all this happen? Right at the start of their arrival or only at the end?

ENKI’S DNA TEMPLATE AND REDEMPTION
Elena continued and said:

Enki bringing back the original DNA template is redeeming the misdeeds of his people in general, so now Enlil’s faction that still remains on Earth has no reason to stay anymore. The wrongs have been righted. Regarding universal laws, no one can right the wrongs of others -in a karmic perspective, so the Anunnaki respond for their people, and so on. That is the reason why Enki brought back the original Adamic DNA template himself, on behalf of his people, to erase a karmic debt at the scale of a whole civilization.” (1,4)

I still wonder what the original DNA Template consists of and how it relates to the hybridizations that followed this initial upgrade (17).

THE CIAKAHRR PINDAR
Next to Enlil stood a huge Ciakahrr (23) who was also chained. In the excerpt below you can hear Elena describe this huge and impressive being, who turned out to be known as ‘the Pindar’, an important leading figure in the Deep State/Cabal structure:

Elena Danaan describes the Ciakahrr on Trial (1)
Ninurta, Enlil’s son, with his ‘bolts of light’ (wikipedia)

THE REMOVAL OF NINURTA FROM EARTH BY ANU
One of the results of this meeting was that Anu declared that he would remove Enlil’s son from Earth. This son of Enlil is called Ninurta. To round off this article I would like to quote from Zecharia Sitchen’s The Twelfth Planet for more on Ninurta:

Enlil, Enki’s brother and rival, did have the good fortune to achieve such a ‘rightful heir’ by his sister Ninhursag. The youngest of the gods upon Earth who were born in the heavens, his name was NIN.UR.TA (“Lord who completes the foundation”). He was “the heroic son of Enlil who went forth with net and rays of light” to battle for his father; “the avenging son…who launched bolts of light…The acient portraits of Ninurta showed him holding a unique weapon (19)- no doubt the very one that could shoot ‘bolts of light‘” (18, p.105)

It seems that Ninurta (or Nintag) can leave his bolts behind and finally go home. Let’s see what the effect of his departure will be for the cleansing of our planet.

ENLIL ON A PRISON PLANET
In July 2024 we were told the place where Enlil was taken after his trial (22), namely to a planet in the Sigma Canis Majoris system, that is under the custody of the Anach Empire.

LINKS
(1) Contact 16: The Council of the Shining Ones
(2) Elena Danaan Articles and Contact Series
(3) The Council of the Shining Ones – Sunny’s Journal
(4) The Council of the Shining Ones – Article by Elena Danaan
(5) I provide links to learn more about these councils at Interplanetary Quatum Holographic Meetings
(6) Various Versions of Humanity brought to you by Our Creators
(7) Who are the Tengri?
(8) Elena explains why he shines like he does in her video. There is some relationship with the uptake up mono-atomic gold. This white powder was also found at that ‘Hall of Records’ in the Bucegi Mountains in Romania. See 50,000 year old Holographic Bodyscan Device found in Romanian Bucegi Mountain for more on that discovery.
(9) Anu from Mythology.net
(10) Two Biological Types of Anunnaki?
(11) The Sleeping Bearded Giant – Ningishzida?
(12) Enlil was recently mentioned in regard to his faction on a moon in Saturn and a deal with the Grays (13). We have talked about his deal with the Ciakahrr that would have created the Enlil Lineage some 5700 years ago. There was also a Ciakahrr present during this meeting by the way; chained like Enlil. And of course there are the links with the vengeful god Yahweh which I discussed in Some Doubts about the Enlil-Yahweh-vibe
(13) The Enlil Faction of the Anunnaki and the Saturn Agreement with the Orion Grays (Nebu)
(14) Some Thoughts on the Philosophy of Ismael Perez
(15) Danaan, E. (2022) The Seeders
(16) The illustration of Tayel from page 136 was in a completely different context of course. This had everything to do about the Nebu-Hydra offensive
(17) Trying to Understand Enki’s Genetic Template Grail
(18) Sitchen, Z. (1976) The Twelfh Planet. New York: Avon Books.
(19) You can find out more about this ‘Vajra’-weapon in Elena’s The Seeders (15), pages 570-578.
(20) The Galactic Federation of Worlds
(21) The Council of Alnilam
(22) STAR NATION NEWS 38 ~ July 8th 2024 – (From 19’20” onwards)
(23) The Ciakahrr

Enki’s Account on the Fall of Atlantis

Before the publication of Elena’s latest book ‘The Seeders‘ (1) I decided to write a trilogy (2-4) on the reasons for the destruction of Atlantis. I described three sources and their take on this important event in our history with the intent to eventually compare it with the variant that would be brought forth by Elena Danaan. Well, the book was published on the first day of the fall in 2022, so let’s take a look at what Enki has to say about it.

WHEN WAS ATLANTIS FOUNDED?
Before we get to the fall of this legendary continent let’s first see what various sources have to say on the start of this civilization. According to Enki the continent of Atlantis was founded relatively late:

“32,400 BC – A new contingent of Alteans (5) from the Intergalactic Confederation arrive in our star system and settle in the island continent in the Atlantic Ocean, which had been the abode of Enki for eons of time. He welcomed them to share rulership, until he retired from this responsibility. Foundation of Atlantis.” (1, p.504)

Radu Cinamar doesn’t seem to be saying anything on when Atlantis was founded (6). Patricia Cori distinguishes three Atlantean Cycles but I cannot find any founding year of the first cycle, only that the second cycle ended at 28,800 BC. (7). Ashayana Deane has a different starting point, namely 68,000 BC, right after the onset of the Lemurian civilization (8).

The Atlantis Hotel in Dubai (12)

THE FALL OF ATLANTIS
As a reminder, we have been discussing not less than four accounts on the fall of Atlantis before. Enki’s account makes up the fifth. In his historical perception he doesn’t say anything about a role of the Anunnaki in the destruction of the continent. This is in line with what Radu Cinamar has written (4), but sharply contrasts the accounts of both Ashayana Deane and Cori’s Sirian High Council-source. They both describe a very malevolent influence by the Anunnaki, either directly, or through agreements with priests.

Both Radu Cinamar and Enki seem to imply that the water was rising for quite some time before it eventually flooded the continent. Cinamar talks about changes in the Earth’s crust, and Enki also names the sinking of the continental shelf.

The slow sinking of the continent (in a period of a 1,000-1,500 years) is something that both Cinamar and Elena Danaan describe. They both seem inclined to put Plato’s description of Atlantis disappearing in ‘one day and one night’ into perspective. On the other hand, however, they also describe human factors which would have speeded up the process. Cinamar talks about the role of a rebel ‘E-N-L-group’ (9) and Enki talks about an artificial meteor that would have caused the final flooding:

“Only the final phase was brutal, with the culmination of the inner conflicts and the final strike in a growing warfare with the Ciakahrr (10), that resulted into the crash of an artificial meteor.” (1, p.508)

Enki was not the first one to mention a meteor, so did Alex Collier (11). He says that meteors or asteroids were thrown on Earth by a Pleiadean group, ‘or how they call themselves that time’: “It was a thriving advanced civilization on the planet at the time and until someone picked a war with the Pleiadians – or whatever they’re calling themselves this month – that’s when everything changed and if it weren’t for the war, if it weren’t for the meteors and the comets of the asteroids that were thrown at planet Earth, which caused it to tilt on its axis, a lot of things would have been different it would have been a very different outcome” (11)

SOME REFLECTIONS
Although I would have loved to embrace the account by Enki in Elena Danaan’s The Seeders as the final word on what really caused the destruction of Atlantis, I have to admit that it remains unclear, at least for me. Deane and Cori put a lot of blame on the Anunnaki, whereas Cinamar, Collier and Danaan don’t even mention them. Because of other strange elements in the historical account of Enki I’m not sure what to think of this element either. Why does Alex Collier talk about Pleiadeans who would have thrown the meteor, whereas Enki blames it on the Ciakahrr. Why don’t Deane and Cori talk about any meteor at all? Unfortunately we are still left with a lot of questions on this topic, if you ask me. If you’ve got anything interesting to add please don’t hesitate and write a comment below.

UPDATE NOVEMBER 2022
In an interview with Robert Kahlil Elena Danaan talks about a big war at the end of the age of Atlantis. See the video-fragment below which was originally used in the context of Thoth (13,14)

UPDATE DECEMBER 2022
In a telegram post on December 30, 2022 Elena Danaan mentioned the fall of Atlantis. Here’s the post:

In January 2023, Elena had another interview with Dani Henderson (15) in which she elaborated on Atlantis. In that particular video she said that Enlil was responsible for terrible weather experiments which led to the downfall of the continent. I couldn’t find this element in her book (1), so I checked it with her and she clarified that it was not only those weather experiments but also the artificial meteor that combined brought down Atlantis.

LINKS
(1) Danaan, E. (2022) The Seeders.
(2) Three Perspectives on the Final Destruction of Atlatis: Account 1 by Ashayana Deane
(3) The Second Account on the Destruction of Atlantis – Patricia Cori and the Siran High Council
(4) The Third Account on the Destruction of Atlantis – The Radu Cinamar / Aleppos Variant
(5) The Alteans are one of the 11 Seeder races from the Intergalactic Confederation. Oona is Altean and she currently acts as the representative of the Intergalactic Confederation. For more on the various Seeder races see: Our Galactic and Intergalactic Genomes
(6) Cinamar, R. (2020) Forgotten Genesis. Skybooks.
(7) In Patricia Cori’s Atlantis Rising (2001) she also mentions that year 32,400 BC. Whereas Enki says that a new contingent of Alteans arrived on our planet, Cori says that at that time Nibiru would have come into our solar system, and together with other celestial events this would have caused our planet to flip its axis, initiating the most recent ice age (see page 43). This reminds me of that other period, namely 439 thousand years ago. According to Enki the Seeders would have arrived, but according to the Andromedans from Alex Collier a Nebu-group would have arrived then (see What Really Happened 439 thousand years ago?)
(8) Deane, A. (2001) Voyager II. On page 56 you can read about the seeding of various races on different places around the world. The ‘Annu’ would have prospered in Atlantis according to her information from the Emerald Convenant.
(9) From Cinamar, R. (2020) Forgotten Genesis:

…Due to the fact that the rebels were beings who already possessed great powers and advanced knowledge, their negative actions and intentions had very strong reverberations throughout the world. By accumulation, a terrible shock came to human civilization as the frequency of energy dropped sharply.” (pp. 211-212)

(10) The Ciakahrr
(11) See Endnote 138 (from webinar #2)
(12) It’s not easy to keep on finding some suitable image on Atlantis after having already written a number of articles on the subject. That’s why this hotel popped up 🙂 – Atlantis Hotel
(13) Return of the Seeders, Serpent Knowledge, Thoth, Grey/Reptilians, The Nine – Elena Danaan & TSP
(14) Some Thoughts on Thoth
(15) TRUE HISTORY OF ATLANTIS, LEMURIA & GLOBAL DISCLOSURE WITH ELENA DANAAN & DANI HENDERSON

Luminescent Plants and Plants that Emit Flames

JP, the military contact from Dr. Michael Salla has had two missions in the subterranean worlds below the state of Florida (1,2). In those worlds he has encountered what we might call ‘Ant People’ (3). During those trips he also got to see wonderful plants that were able to produce flames of fire to attract bugs. You can hear him describe these beautiful plants in an excerpt from the interview below (1,4).

Luminescent plants (9)

A GIFT FROM THE OUTERGALACTIC STARS
When Dr. Salla asked him if they were like the luminescent plants that he found within the walls of certain arks, JP said that that was something different (4). Those plants in the arks were glowing and not producing actual flames. The concept of luminescent or fluorescent plants is not new within this ‘field of research’ (5). In October 2021 Elena Danaan mentioned a beautiful gift that would be handed over to humanity, and that gift would have something to do with luminescent plants with healing qualities. She had mentioned that in a video back then and she talked about it in her book, The Seeders as well. Let’s first hear how she described an ‘Eden’ or a biodome on the Excelsior (6,7)

Surrounding us, the luxurious exotic flora was glowing with fluorescence in the dusk, so delicately, so beautifully. The fluorescence wasn’t coming from the vegetal “flesh” of the leaves, stems and petals, but instead from the sap itself, that was glowing in the dark. In the sweet indigo twilight, I could see the fluorescense running through the veins of the plants and fringing shapes in a shimmering, multicolored, tiny glowing pearls of stardust” (8, p.173)

And after this magical description Thor Han explained that the Intergalactic Confederation will present a gift to humanity as a token for their peaceful intent:

“This is a gift, Thor Han said. The Do, the Intergalactic Confederation, gave it to us. It comes from…Emerya…These plants, that were given to us, are here to be hybridized with the Terran flora, in order to be able to thrive in the environment of this planet. They already have genetically prepared not to be invasive. They carry great medicine. When the Intergalactic Confederation will make open contact with the Terran civilians, these will be part of the gifts they will bring with them, as a sign of peaceful cooperation.” (8, p.174)

MIT AND THE DEVELOPMENT OF GLOWING PLANTS
On October 17, 2022, Elena Danaan reposted the above post by Dr. Michael Salla. Salla wonders how many of these breakthroughs are the result of reverse engineering bioluminescent plants retrieved from space arks and underground civilizations. Elena already referred to the gift from the Seeders/The Intergalactic Confederation.

In the article (9,10) you can read about how researchers at MIT were able to somehow create nanoparticles that were able to convert luciferin into oxyluciferin by using the enzyme luciferase. This chemical reaction produces light. These nanoparticles were put into plants.

SOME REFLECTIONS
This articles presents three items and the question is to which degree they are related. JP’s missions seem to have taken place in September/October 2022; the article on the MIT discovery appears to have been published at the end of september 2022, but in fact this research is from 2017 (10). This would imply that Elena’s comment ‘The Gift from the Seeders’ and Dr. Michael Salla’s enthusiasm were a bit premature.

An important element of the Intergalactic Confederation’s gift – and the gift from the Subterranean Ant-People – was that it was healing and genetically embedded in the plants, like Thor Han has said. This is far from what the MIT-researchers did: they were able to induce some light emitting from the plants by artificially implanting the proteins into plants which allowed them to glow for about four hours, without any healing effects of course.

LINKS
(1) Mission to Underground Civilization in Florida and a Gift for Humanity
(2) 2nd Mission to Underground Civilization in Florida & the missing Gift for Humanity
(3) The Ant People
(4) Below is a description of the fire producing plants below the surface of Florida. I recommend watching the complete interview at (1)

JP on plants below the surface of Florida (1)

(5) When I talk about ‘this field of research’ I refer to the main sources that I used on this website: the work of Elena Danaan, Alex Collier, Dr. Michael Salla, Ashayana Deane, Lacerta and Patricia Cori.
(6) To Have a Drink at a Bar or Cafetaria in a Spaceship
(7) The Excelsior and Solar Warden
(8) Danaan, E. (2022) The Seeders.
(9) MIT Just Created Living Plants That Glow Like A Lamp, And Could Grow Glowing Trees To Replace Streetlights
(10) Glowing Plants (December 2017)

Genetic Engineering and Genetic Mixing through Sexual Intercourse

In a recent interview (October 8, 2022) Dr. Michael Salla talked to Alex Collier about his ideas of the Anunnaki and their interaction with us (1,2). At a certain point in that interview Michael asked Alex if he thought that the Anunnaki were the last ones to modify our human genome (2). Alex confirmed this and he went on to talk about how they downgraded our genetics. In the ‘Seeders-paradigm‘, however, the Anunnaki are the 14th in line as far as the races go that have genetically contributed to our genome (3,4). What about all the others that followed the Anunnaki, if the Anunnaki were the last ones to modify our human genome?

Altering DNA in two ways (11)

TWO WAYS TO GENETICALLY MODIFY HUMANITY
I’m not yet convinced of the ‘Seeders Paradigm‘ which consists mainly of Enki’s account of our history and the description of those who would be responsible for our genetic household, but that doesn’t mean that I can’t study this intriguing perspective. I have raised some critical points in earlier articles (3,5-8). I think it is useful for clarity’s sake to make a distinction between two ways to genetically modify genetics, namely one method that uses engineering techniques in the broadest sense, and the other method – that we are most familiar with – is the one in which people have sexual intercourse (and hopefully make love).

When you use this distinction all off-Galactic Species from the Intergalactic Confederation have contributed their genomes in the first way (9). It’s not sure how the Nagai added their genetic contribution, but I think it is safe to assume for now that most humanoid species that later entered our world, added their genetics not through genetic engineering but by having sex with the Terrans (10).

The exception would be the last group that would have added their genetics to our genome, namely certain Gray groups. They probably used their ‘genetic engineering skills’ on us. When you interpret Alex Collier’s words like that the Anunnaki were indeed (almost) the last ones to genetically engineer us. It would be nice if Elena Danaan could confirm this one day.

THE SEEDERS AND THE ONES THAT CONTRIBUTED TO OUR GENOME – NOT THE SAME GROUP!
In this context it is useful to once again make the distinction between the group called The Seeders from the Intergalactic Confederation and the ones that ‘Seeded’ or ‘Added their Genes’ to our genome. This is not the same group of species within the ‘Seeders Paradigm‘. We were ‘seeded’ by only 10 races of the group we call the Seeders. The other 11 are from people (and Nagai/Grays) from within our own Galaxy. It is easy to mix this up, especially since the numbers are almost the same: 24 Intergalactic Seeder Races from the Intergalactic Federation (of which 10 have contributed their genes) and the 22 Genetic Templates that were used to make us who we are.

Well, no one said it was going to be easy, right?

LINKS
(1) Return of Enki, ETs Preventing Nuclear War & Restoring Adamic DNA
(2) See Endnote 169 for an important excerpt from this interview
(3) Trying to Understand the Genetic Template Grail of Enki
(4) Our Galactic and Intergalactic Genomes
(5) What Happened 439 thousand years ago?
(6) What Came First: the Lyran or the Orion Wars?
(7) The Genomes of the Ciakahrr and Humanity
(8) Discovery of an Ancient Crystal Artefact Containing Info that is 65 million years Old
(9) Since a Lemur-like being would have been opted as a primate the other method would indeed be quite odd 🙂
(10) These humanoids beings are mainly the well known ones, like the Taal, Noor, Ahel, T-Askheru, Selosians, Ummit, Meton and the Ohorai
(11) Image taken from What is Epigenetics?

Discovery of an Ancient Crystal Artefact Containing Info that is 65 million years Old

In earlier articles I mentioned information from Lacerta, a reptilian 28-year-old woman who has done two interviews in 1999 in Scandinavia. Parts of the transcripts of this intriguing conversation was put into video format and you can simply watch it on youtube (1). I have returned to this information since it also sheds interesting light on the period that was described in Enki’s account of our human history as it appeared in Elena Danaan’s ‘The Seeders’ (2). You can look forward to more relevant parts of this interview.

Today I want to show you an excerpt (2 minutes) from this interview in which Lacerta talks about the discovery of an ancient artefact somewhere in North America some 16,000 years ago. In contained information – stored within crystals – about what happened 65 million years ago.

Through analysis of the artefact they discovered that a fusion bomb that was shot at Earth from space by some reptilian species killed the dinosaurs and also the humanoids from Procyon that would have only arrived on our planet a few hundred years earlier. It would have been the war between these beings from Procyon and the Reptilians that eventually led to the cataclysm (3). The delving of copper would have been the main reason for this war.

In the Seeders this cataclysm is also described, only in a completely different light: it would have been the Intergalactic Confederation or the Paa Tal that would have wiped the Earth clean in order to be able to start with the human experiment (see 2, p. 492). Interestingly, they mention a reptilian race that managed to survive:

A Tyrannosaurus (5)

“Some of the Naga reptilians somehow survived and sought refuge in underground caverns and remote areas. Still the planet-wide cataclysm event made room for the beginning of a brand new world with umlimited possibilities.” (2, 492).

Lacerta says that her species evolved in tens of millions of years from a 1,5m Tyrannosaurus like animal after this cataclysm. This would imply that the Naga and Lacerta’s species are not the same species.

I think we can use some additional sources to determine what really happened. Perhaps the Ginvo from Procyon (4) can assist and delve into their ancient history to determine if there really was a colony from Procyon that visited Earth 65 million years ago. Wouldn’t it be great if we were able to read this ancient artefact ourselves in these times?

In November 2022 Elena talked about this period in which the Seeders would have ended the rulership of the Nagai and the Reptilians (6). You can read a bit more about the Nagai at (7). Below is an excerpt from Elena’s video related to this event, expressed in terms that sound friendlier.

The Ending of Reptilian-Only Planet (6)

Elena Danaan has spoken about this important turn of events in other videos as well. You might want to take a look at an interview she did with Dr. Salla when launching her Galactica Encyclopedia in March 2024 (8). She also elaborated on it in Star Nation News 28 in April 2024 (9)

LINKS
(1) The Lacerta Files (Interview with a Reptilian of the inner Earth)
(2) Danaan, E. (2022) The Seeders.
(3) Did a Fusion Bomb cause the Extinction of the Dinosaurs 65 million years ago?
(4) The Ginvo from Procyon – Canis Minor
(5) 25 Milliarden Tyrannosaurus Rex
(6) Galactic History: Elena Danaan Discusses Anunnaki, ET Root Races, Atlantis and more
(7) The Nagai, Igigi and the Question of Enlil’s Mother
(8) Encyclopedia Galactica is a Guidebook to over 150 Spacefaring Alien Civilizations in our Galaxy (with timestamp leading you directly to this issue)
(9) STAR NATION NEWS #28~ April 29 2024

Our Intergalactic and Galactic Genomes

On September 21, 2022 Elena Danaan published her third book, The Seeders, in which she describes her experiences with off-world people. I managed to read the book of nearly 600 pages in three days. Of course it contains a description of just about everything that happened since the publishing of her second book, We Will Never Let You Down, of which a lot was shared in her videos, and consequently in articles on this website, since september 2021. On top of that there is a lot of new information that wasn’t previously spoken about in her videos. I think that the big step forward since the second book is the opening up to the intergalactic level. This brings new insights and it also raises new questions. This article tries to shed some light on the 22 races that contributed to our genome: how much is intergalactic, how much is from our galaxy? How much is human, and how much is reptilian, insectoid and feline?

Illustration by Elena Danaan (3, p.82)

THE INTERGALACTIC CONFEDERATION
Before the publication of The Seeders we really didn’t know too much about the nature of the beings belonging to the Intergalactic Confederation (1). We were introduced to Oona, the Altean woman, who is the spokesperson of the Intergalactic Confederation. In June we got to know a person from the Ormong race (2). Elena did describe her meeting on a ship by the Intergalactic Confederation, with a drawing that was already shared in certain videos.

In the drawing on the left hand side we can distinguish the Alteans (on the right touching Thor Han), but also the small Gray-like beings whose kind apparently is called the La’Neel. Behind we can see the tall beings who are the original Pa-Taal (4). Right above Elena Danaan’s head there probably is a female Egon.

In her book 21 members of the Intergalactic Federation or The Seeders are presented in beautiful drawings. But not every member of the Intergalactic Confederation has donated its genes to the human template. In fact only 11 have done so. I only present the names and the category to which they belong: Pa-Taal (humanoid), Altean (humanoid), Elli-Yin (humanoid), Hoovid (humanoid, 15,17), Oyara Maruu (humanoid), Etherians (humanoid), Arag’un (Reptiloid), Ashai (Insectoid,16), Gray (Z-Neel, NOT the La’Neel from the drawing), Egoni (humanoid/vegetal, 5), Elyan Sukhami (feline).

FROM OUR GALAXY, NATARU, THE MILKY WAY
After first having had genomes from these 11 races from other galaxies we received genetic packages from these species/races from our galaxy: the Naga (reptilian), Anunnaki (humanoid/Gray, 6), Taal (humanoid), Noor(humanoid), Ahel (humanoid, 8), T-Ashkeru (Sirius B, humanoid), Selosians (Alpha Centauri B, humanoid, 9), Ummit (10) and Meton (11) subgroup (humanoid), Ohorai (12, humanoid), Grays (Eban, Xrog, Do-Hu, Solipsi Rai, Kiily Tokurt (13).

This makes a total of 21 races. The Pa-Taal would have started their genetic insertion on a Lemur-like being, which would have been the first primate on which the genes of all the other races would have been built.

The Ummit (10), Image from ET-species (14)

SOME REFLECTIONS
So we finally know on whose 22 packages our genome is based. One animal (a Lemur), many humanoid species (15, including the Anunnaki), some Gray races (2 (and the Anunnaki, but I won’t count them twice), or more since various groups are mentioned), Reptiloid (2), a feline (1) and even an insectoid race from another galaxy.

This raises a few questions. For me the biggest question is: how are the Gray, Reptiloid, Feline and Insectoid genes expressed in our very humanoid looking body? Does this imply that we are able to tune into the Naga, certain Grays and insectoids when all our DNA would get activated, or at least from those who have these lines in their genetics. How does this relate to our human future on Earth, when we have these other genomes in our system?

In the book it is also implied that souls from various worlds need some resonance in the genetic household of the body they incarnate in, meaning that for an Arcturian (Ohorai for instance) soul, a body that has got some Ohorai-genes activated is needed. Apparently there has been no hybridization with the Andromedans, so would not participate in the star seed envoy program.

What seems to be important is that the 24 seeders are NOT the 24 seeders of the Intergalactic Confederation. Only 11 of them are our Seeders. Nearly half of those who are our Human Seeders are from this galaxy. Much more can be said about all this, but I would say this is enough for one article. Please share your thoughts below.

LINKS
(1) The Intergalactic Confederation
(2) See End Note 56
(3) Danaan, E. (2022) The Seeders. This image was also presented in a few videos.
(4) In her book Elena Daan explains that this race of the Pa-Taal were the first ones to implant their genes into our predecessors. During the time the meaning of Pa-Taal has changed to all the 24 seeder races. You can find out more about all the 24 seeder races in The Seeders (2).
(5) I don’t understand why the Egoni are categorised as ‘vegetal’ in the summary on pages 527-528, whereas they are described as humanoid on pages 100-101 and they sure look very human 🙂 Alex Collier, however also mentions a ‘botanical’ species as part of the original seeders. See End note 165. In 2026 I got a better understanding of the Egoni and one of their colonies in our galaxy, the Egonari in the Andromeda Constellation. Their vegetal genetics seem to express themselves through their skin that would allow for photosynthesis. Read more about at (18).
(6) The Anunnaki are a hybrid race from the Sirian B T-Ashkeru and the Grays (probably the Ebans from Betelgeuse, 7). Also see: the Anunnaki and the Sirian Connection
(7) Read more about the Eban at the Nebu-page and endnote 62
(8) Getting acquainted with the Ahel
(9) On the Selosi from Alpha Centauri B
(10) Meet the Ummit from Wolf 424
(11) Having a life Span of Two Thousand Years – The Metoni from Proxima Centauri
(12) The Ohorai, Glaideal, Noo-Linn from Arcturus
(13) The Kiily Tokurt from Suhail (Vela)
(14) HTB (2022) Off- World Influences. See website: ET-Species.com
(15) On Hoova, Hoovids and the Hebrews
(16) See the bottom half of the page on the Ant People. There is an image of the Ashai there and you can also hear Elana Danaan mention the Ashai in a short video – The Ant People
(17) On Jesus, Jehovah, the Hoova and Thiaoouba
(18) Extraterrestrial Humanoids with Vegetal Genetics

Log in to the Nebu Network with your Personal Hydra Vulgaris Code

We have spoken about the Nebu (1) a lot of times on this website. We know these guys from their abduction- and hybridization ‘projects’ (2) and their lovely psy-ops (3). They played a crucial role in the Orion Wars (4) and they were instrumental in this obnoxious deal with the MJ-12 (5). We have also learned that these Grays (not ALL ‘Grays’) have a special way of interacting with each other, namely through a hive-mind structure which connects them to some kind of supraconsciousness A.I.-like hive-queen that probably resides in the M42-Nebula in the Orion Constellation (6). On top of all that, they tend to smell bad as well.

Snapshot from The Undying Hydra (7)

HYDRA VULGARIS
After this short summary of these Nebu races I would like to introduce you to a very tiny organism called the Hydra Vulgaris. This tiny little monster has got some unique qualities: it can reproduce in three ways, first, let’s say the normal way with sperm and ovaries; secondly under favorable warm conditions a new complete hydra can also grow out of an adult hydra and thirdly it has this cunning ability to regenerate when cut into pieces:

When a hydra is cut into segments, each segment, if large enough, will grow into an individual hydra sized relative to the size of the segment. This happens in other animals, such as the starfish” (8)

AN EVIL PLAN BY THE NEBU
Just imagine that you are a clever Nebu-queen enjoying your power near this interdimensional time-portal (4) and you have the desire to expand your empire by integrating new species, just like the imfamous Borg Queen (9). It is easy to connect to your minions when they share the same DNA, but when the DNA is not corresponding you need to think of something else in order to firstly connect to them and finally to control them. What about creating tiny little synthetic hydra’s? And how to get them into the bodies of that species you would so gladly add to your empire?

THE INTERGALACTIC CONFEDERATION AND THE GALACTIC FEDERATION OF WORLDS (10)
So, you worked out your little scheme and got that species to take in your nano-hydra’s and just as you were about to turn on the connection switch, some other species interfered and cracked your connection codes and even destroyed most of your technology that you needed to make them into docile slaves. Somehow these beings managed by using sound, to prevent your hydras from reproducing and getting into the DNA of that species that you wanted to get control. Although communication with them was now no longer possible, remnants of your hydra-offensive can still cause harm.

(this ‘ímaginary’ story was based on (11) and things eventually didn’t end up too well for that clever Nebu-Queen (12))

SOME RELATED ARTICLES FROM THE GONDOLATH PROJECT
In 2024 I started a project aimed at unraveling the ways of the ‘Deep State’ and all their globalist narratives. During the research I came across a few nasty things related to the covid vaccine that might just have a link with the story above. What about those Mexican doctors that were able to register blue-tooth codes being emitted by dead people from their graves? (13) And what about all these awkward nano-structures that were observed in the vaccines? (14). If you like discussing these matters with others, join either Elena Danaan’s chat or one of our Galactic Anthropology groups (15).

LINKS
(1) The Nebu
(2) A Different Shade of Hybrid Soul
(3) Bashar, The Far Sight Institute and the Essassani Psy-Op
(4) The Orion Wars; watch the video-segment on that page to hear about the interdimensional and timetravel characteristics of this portal
(5) Much is written about this deal during the Eisenhower administration. I picked a relatively recent interview from May 2022 with Laura Eisenhower and Dr. Michael Salla if you want to find out more about this deal: President Eisenhower’s Extraterrestrial Legacy: Interview with Laura Eisenhower
(6) The Orion Nebula and the Hive Mind
(7) The Undying Hydra: A Freshwater Mini-Monster That Defies Aging | Deep Look
(8) Wikipedia: Hydra vulgaris
(9) I just finished watching Star Trek Picard, Season 2, with a great role of the Borg Queen.
(10) The Intergalactic Confederation
(11) Danaan, E. (2022) The Seeders, pp.136-143
(12) And the Lights went out for the Nebu
(13) How can Dead Vaccinated People emit a Mac-Address through Bluetooth?
(14) What are worm-like entities, discs, chains, spirals, (nano)tubes, right-angle structures and other artificial entities doing in Covid Vaccines?
(15)  Telegram groups: Galactic Anthropology (general updates), Galactic Anthropology Study Group (most active group) Alex Collier and Andromedans Study Group and the Galactic Anthropology Library. Elena Danaan also has her own telegram channel and even her own open telegram chat group.
(b) Want to help with studying the Deep State? Join the Gondolath Globalist Narratives Study Group or visit the website: Gondolath Project. You can also follow the alternative side of current events at the Laura Aboli Archive. We recently started a Diddy and Epstein group as well.
Galactic Anthropology tries to spread both the disclosure information and the Deep State Explorations at FacebookX (Twitter), on VKYoutube and on TikTok. Hope to see you soon in one of the groups! Like, share and subscribe.


Looking Up at the Stars – Cassiopeia and the Dorsay

In her August 2, 2022 video, Elena Danaan advised us all to look up a bit more and watch the starry sky more closely (1). For, as was said before, way back in November 2021 (2), there would be an increase in starships showing themselves. Spaceships from the Galactic Federation of Worlds, Solar Warden (3) and the Intergalactic Federation would now even be adapting their paths to make themselves seen for those who open up their hearts and are willing to actually see them. This would require more than just a short glimpse of 5 minutes, though.

Cassiopeia is the W-form on the left-hand side; you can see the ‘Big Dipper’ on the right, both pointing towards the polar star (4)

So, that’s what I did. The first time from my garden and the second time I was out walking with our dog on a warm evening and I got to a dike which was closed off due to reconstruction work. I reached the freshly made new asphalt road (a few weeks ago, so it was well dried) and decided to lie down and look at the night’s sky. While the dog was digging holes and walking from one side of me to the other, I enjoyed the sky for over half an hour: I saw a lot of planes, quite a few satellites and even some shooting stars, but no starships with funny maneuvers.

CASSIOPEIA
It was a very peaceful exercise which I would surely recommend. While lying there I noticed one of the most easily detectable constellations, namely Cassiopeia and I wondered who would live in that corner of the sky. After returning home I picked up Elena’s ‘A Gift from the Stars‘ and saw that a race of beings called the Dorsay would actually live on two home planets near the stars of Cassiopeia.

Drawing by Elena Danaan from (5, p.117).

The Dorsay are small grays with a maximum height of 5,3 feet. They have a batrachian (amphibian) face and “are a highly advanced pacifist civilization, part of the Galactic Federation of Worlds. Their race is at least 4 billion years old. They have visited Terra at least 250 times” (5, p.116). Despite their pacifistic nature they apparently like hunting, but hunting for humans is not allowed by the Galactic Federation of Worlds, luckily 🙂

THE TUNGUSKA EVENT
In Elena Danaan’s book there is an interesting paragraph about the role of the Dorsay in the Tunguska event that happened in 1908 (6). “They were at the origin of an unfortunate accident that impacted Terra enormously: the Tunguska explosion in 1908. For five days the Maytrei (7) had been fighting the Dorsay over a shipment of slaves the Dorsay fearlessly stole from them.

The conflict lasting and increasing in violence, the Galactic Federation of Worlds and the Council of Five decided to intervene. An Elmanuk (8) ship arrived to try ending the hostilities but got also in troubles; you do not negotiate that easily with the Maytrei. So the Elmanuk required emergency assistance and the closest ship was a Pleiadean cargo passing by, transporting crystals to Alpha Centauri (9). Warned by the Nagai of the arrival of enforcement, the Maytrei, who had shot down the last Dorsay ship that day, attacked the Pleiadean cargo entering Terra’s atmosphere and destroyed it as well as an Elmanuk ship. This was the cause of the Tunguska explosion, and the reminder that you don’t just steal from the Maytrei.” (5, p.116)

See End Note 116 or (10) for another theory on what happened there in 1908 in Siberia as was described in ‘Atlantis Rising’ by Patricia Cori. End Note 164 mentions a species from Cassiopeia that would have helped the Zenae some 2.5 million years ago. In Elena Danaan’s second volume of Encyclopedia Galactica we get to know 10 other civlization residing on the various planets within the Cassiopeia constellation (11). We also learn that the Dorsay are related to the Antlia Holyal Horgon (11, p.67).

STAR SYSTEM AND PLANET OTTORA
The Dorsay (or Dursa-Y) would have two home worlds in the Cassiopeia constellation, namely in the Ottora and the Endelemen Nyada star systems. The name Ottora also appears as the home world of the Mi Ottora in the same Ottora (Gliese 49) star system. That planet is described as a Neptune-like planet (11, p.68). So, the Dorsay apparently share this watery planet with these Mi Ottora. After a search on Grok, I discovered that the name Ottora is not unique to this Ottora system, but the name also appears as the name of a planet in the Üuda system, where the Ottüri reside: a dark-skinned Taal Colony (12, p.28).

LINKS
(1) LOOK UP ~ a message from the Seeders~ Aug-02-2022
(2) See Terra has entered a probation period to join Membership with the Galactic Federation of Worlds for more on that promise which was made in november 9, 2021. Thor Han had said: “It was also decided that the Intergalactic Confederation will take care of leading the operations of civilian contacts, by increasing slowly the sightings of their ships in our skies, in a very organized way, following a plan.

Tunguska, Siberia, Russia – After more than 100 years (after 1908) there is still no tree growing! (source)

This will be progressive contact, aimed to increase the awareness of the civilians concerning the existence and the presence of other galactic cultures. Parallel to this, the Earth Alliance will speed up the disclosure of all their technologies and when the time will be right, the two will be one and the future will be the present.
(3) The Excelsior and Solar Warden
(4) Earth Sky
(5) Danaan, E. (2020) A Gift from the Stars. Amazon Press
(6) Britannica – Siberia
(7) To get to know more about the (ugly) Maytrei take a look at the Nebu-page.
(8) Read more about the Elmanuk at The Elmanuk from Gliese 832 in the Grus Constellation and the Possible link with A.R. Bordon’s The Link
(9) More on the people from Alpha Centauri B can be found at both The Selosi from Alpha Centauri B and for more on their role in setting up new colonies on Mars see: A New Colony from Alpha Centauri to Settle on Mars
(10) Nikola Tesla and Directed Energy Weapons
(11) Danaan, E. (2025) Encyclopedia Galactica, volume 2
(12) Danaan, E. (2024) Encyclopedia Galactica, volume 1

Does James Webb Telescope Image of Jupiter show Galactic Vessels?

In a short message, Oona – a representative of the Intergalactic Federation of Worlds (1) – has commented on a picture that was published on July 12, 2022 by NASA of Jupiter (2).

Jupiter Image by James Webb Telescope –
snapshot from (2) – Also see (3)

In her message she says that there are at the moment 138 star nations present in our solar system, each with a mothership. They are all part of the Nataru-Alliance (Galactic Federation of Worlds, 4) Together there are thousands of craft. On top of that there are also 550 vessels from the Intergalactic Confederation in our star system, stationed near Jupiter. Four Intergalactic Confederation vessels are presently orbiting Earth (Terra).

Oona said: “The recently disclosed image of your planet Jupiter displays the cloud of orbital rocks plus the defense grid of the ships from the Ashtar outpost (5) plus some of our motherships. The majority of our fleet is behind the planet Jupiter, hidden from your sight. The disclosure of this image is not an error, but a move from the Terran Alliance in charge of the program. Terran instances may name our ships ‘cold spots’. There is truth. More visuals to come. The plan is on schedule. One step at a time.

We are holding your hand and you must not look back, instead look up. In the greater design of the universe you are already on the other side of the bridge. In love, Oona” (2)

Update July 15, 2022: Dr. Michael Salla has written an excellent piece on these Jupiter pictures, focusing on another picture of Jupiter in which a ‘shadow’ can be identified. According to Victor, Jean-Charles Moyen’s (6) contact, that shadow would indeed be a huge mothership. (7)

Update August 1, 2022: The James Webb telescope produced more pictures on Jupiter. In that picture a cilinder-like object can be detected. Would that be a huge spaceship with the size of over a thousand miles or even bigger? Read the information from JP and Elena Danaan in an article by Dr. Michael Salla (8).

See Endnote 96 for more on Technosignatures; Endnote 101 for a telling experience related to the Dutch ‘Scientias’-site

LINKS
(1) The Intergalactic Confederation
(2) CONTACT 10 -The Fleets of the Star Nations (July 13 2022)
(3) You can see this image not only in the video by Elena Danaan but also on various other sites like:
– New Scientist: James Webb Space Telescope team quietly releases a picture of Jupiter
– The Sun: Ultra-rare image of Jupiter found in James Webb Telescope
– CNET: Two Webb Space Telescope Images of Jupiter You Might Have Missed
– Global News – Canada –The Webb telescope also took pictures of Jupiter. Here’s why you probably missed them
– Sky News – Two pictures of Jupiter leaked by James Webb Telescope team
– Scientias (Dutch) – Goed verstopte, fraaie zesde foto van James Webb gevonden in dik NASA-rapport
(4) Nataru is the name of our Milky Way that is used by the people in our galaxy. They don’t speak of the Milky way, but of Nataru. More local names can be found at: The Real names of Various Stars – How they are called by their own people
(5) The Ashtar Galactic Command and the Ashtar Collective
(6) For an introduction to Jean-Charles Moyen you could visit Solar Warden and Excelsior or To Have a Drink at a Bar or a Cafetaria or a video-interview with Dr. Salla at French SSP Insiders speak out
(7) Does Webb image of Jupiter show rock debris where giant ET Motherships are parked?
(8) Does new Webb photo of Jupiter show a Mothership over a thousand miles long?