Author: Joost

An Interview with Robert Dean

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Someone in one of the Study Groups (1) advised me to take a look at a long (2 hours) interview with Robert Dean (2). While watching it I made all kinds of notes and links that you can find in the Telegram Library (1). After finishing it I thought the information was fascinating enough to gather it in a separate article. Of course I would recommend you to watch the interview yourself, but when you don’t have the time for it, you can get the main points from this article or an extended variant from the Library.

ROBERT OREL DEAN
Robert (or Bob) was born in 1929 and passed away almost 90 years later in 2018. He was a Command Sergeant Major in the US Army and after having served for 28 years he retired and started to share his information on UFO’s and extraterrestrial life from 1989 onwards (3).

THE INTERVIEW FROM 2012 WITH WALTER
On January 25, 2012 Robert was interviewed by Walter from Search4TruthReality (4) in Tucson, Arizona. I will deal with the topics that I thought were interesting, in the order that they appeared in the video.

A NEAR WAR IN 1961 AND THE ASSESSMENT REPORT
Robert Dean mentioned the appearance of metallic discs that were flying in formation over Europe. Both NATO and the Warsaw Pact (5) thought these were some kind of planes from their enemies in the Cold War. This would have almost led to a war between the two parties. Eventually they learned that it was not of human origin. It triggered the study that eventually resulted in the writing of the Assessment Report. Dean said that only 15 copies were printed of this highly classified (NATO Cosmic Clearance required) and he got to read it (6). Here Robert talks about this important report:

Robert Dean speaks about the Assessment Report (1964) on Alien Life

“because it literally concluded that we, on planet Earth, the human race, had had an intimate interrelationship with advanced non-human intelligence for centuries, if not for millenia….and the conclusion reached after the study was published, was that apparently these guys have been coming and going here from the beginning of our history. An no there was no threat involved, because if there had been the repeated demonstration of their incredibly advanced technology indicated that if they were malevolent or hostile, the game would have been over, a long, long time ago. (2, 34′)

The study, however didn’t conclude who they were, and why they were really here. Dr. Salla did an interview with Bob Dean in 2006, mainly focused on this report and the aftermath (7).

THE ALIEN BODIES FROM TIMMENDORFER STRAND IN 1963

Timmendorfer Strand – location of an alien plane crash in 1963? (9)

In the report, Robert read about a huge disc, the size of 30 meters (about 100 ft) that crashed in the Northern German village near the Baltic Sea, called Timmendorfer Strand.

A British engineer battalion (8) went inside and figured out how to take it apart and they encountered 12 small bodies, about 3,5-4 feet tall. The report contained an index that included autopsies of these beings, including photographs and analyses. The medical examiners were overwhelmed with what they discovered.

These beings were almost identical. They appeared like biological androids. There was no alimentary tract and they did not have any reproductive capabilities. He talks about there being a kind of tissue in their small toothless mouth which was probably used to ingest nutrients. Who could these beings have been? The Do-Hu perhaps? (10)

THE BROOKINGS REPORT
Robert Dean also mentioned another report, which is not classified and was written by the Brookings Institute in collaboration with NASA in 1960 (11). He mentioned it because one of the recommendations of the report would have been to withhold intelligent extraterrestrial life for the general public. I looked into a few sites, but could not find such claims. If anyone can find quotes from the report that actually say this, please let me know. For now I tend to agree with this (11):

In an email published by The Virtually Strange Network, entitled “Brookings Report Re-examined”, Keith Woodard writes that the Brookings Report:

…did raise the possibility of withholding information, but took no position on its advisability. ‘Questions one might wish to answer by such studies,’ intoned the report, ‘would include: how might such information, under what circumstances, be presented to or withheld from the public for what ends? What might be the role of the discovering scientists and other decision makers regarding release of the fact of discovery?’ Those two sentences comprise the report’s entire commentary on the subject of covering up the truth.

Ben Rich, former CEO of Lockheed Skunk Works (12)

ANTI-GRAVITY, SUPER-LUMINAL CAPABILITIES
He talks about a talk he had with Ben Rich, who had retired from his work as a CEO at Lockheed. This man told Robert that the U.S. would have everything you see in Star Trek. On his death bed he would have said that extraterrestrial visitors are real and that the US military travels to the stars (12).

Robert also mentioned someone else he had spoken to who had worked at Northrupp-Grumman, and he would have told him that the U.S. has anti-gravity and superluminal (faster than light) technology (2, 56′). He also referred to certain rules that would hold for the patent offices in the U.S. As soon as someone introduced an idea related to anti-gravity (22,23), superluminal light or free energy the employees would have to warn their superiors (13).

THE MOON
Dean also mentioned that we would have been told at the end of the Apollo 17 mission that we were not welcome on the Moon. When you listen to him you notice that the reason he gives is different from the reason that we were told by Myrah, the T-Ashkeru contact from Elena Danaan (14). Dean says that they didn’t want us there because we were too militaristic. Myrah says that we were simply chased off my malevolent Maytra, who were far from peaceful themselves. He also mentions the existence of a city on Mars, the size of Chicago, underground. Perhaps he is talking about Aries Prime (15,16).

WATCHING HISTORY IN A VERY VIVID WAY IN AN ET LIBRARY
For those who have read Radu Cinamar’s Forgotten Genesis (17) the following excerpt might remind you of that special pair of highly advanced glasses that he was given by the Inner Earth Apellos people (18).

Robert Dean talks about his visit to a miraculous Library on another planet (2)

Robert vividly describes how he was shown a battle of Alexander the Great from the 3rd century B.C., including even the smell of blood. His host told him that this battle was still continuing somewhere in space-time. This library show some similarities with one of the library books that Elena described from her visits to the Nibiru ship (24).

ROUNDING OFF
I could go on and on about this interview, but I don’t like long articles on this website. If you want to know more about the things he said, watch the complete interview or go to the summary thread in the Library (2). You can hear him talk about seeing extraterrestrial bartering activity in Mount Adams (19), joining classes on Earth with extraterrestrial teachers (20), Conscious Spaceships (21), a R&R (Rest and Relaxation) for extraterrestrials in Pine Gap, Australia and more about his own contacts which started when he was only 2,5 years old.

I hope you enjoyed this review of this fascininating interview from 2012. Let me know your thoughts in the comments or in one of the groups (1). Robert Dean did a great interview with Kerry Cassidy too (25).

FOOTNOTES
(1) Telegram groups: General Notices and Updates, The Galactic Anthropology Study Group, Alex Collier and Andromedans Study Group and the Galactic Anthropology Library. Follow this website on X (Twitter)
(2) Robert O. Dean – ET Contact
(3) Robert even has his own wikipedia page: Robert Dean (ufologist)
(4) Search4TruthReality – I couldn’t retrieve his family name, so I only of ‘Walter’ because Robert addressed him that way often during the interview.


(5) For those who were born in this century, you might not know what the Warsaw Pact was. It was the answer to the formation of NATO by the Soviets and their allied countries in Eastern Europe. See Warsaw Pact for more.
(6) The report was published in the summer of 1964: An Assessment: an Evaluation of a Possible Military Threat to Allied Forces
(7) Command Sergeant Major Robert Dean, Nato’s Secret UFO – Assessment & Setting the Record Straight An Interview with Michael E. Salla, PhD
(8) In those days (1963) Germany was divided into four zones. The alien craft landed in the British zone.
(9) Map taken from wikipedia
(10) Perhaps they are the Do-Hu (A Gift from the Stars, p.262-264), because they are part of the small Grays and they are described as having lost their reproductive abilities due to genetic alteration by others from the Orion Collective. If you have any other suggestions, let me know.
(11) The Brookings Report
(12) Lockheed CEO Ben Rich Declared On His Death Bed: Extraterrestrial UFO Are Real
(13) Below is a screenshot from the USPTO-Saws-memo (download here)


(14) Did Aliens (Maytra) Chase the Americans from the Moon?
(15) Aries Prime and Marsquakes
(16) Galactic Ultra-Sonic Showers
(17) Cinamar, R. (2020) Forgotten Genesis. Skybooks.
(18) Create your Own Holographic Akasha Set
(19) For more on bartering practices with and between extraterrestrials on Earth read A Cloaked Laser Tube From A Mountain Base to Hide Spaceship Traffic
(20) Melanie Charest talked about classes for children on spaceships – See Children’s Classes in a Spaceship
(21) Conscious Spaceships and Genetic or Soul Keys
(22) How to create Anti-gravity
(23) An Extraordinary Experince by Dave Rossi
(24) Four Kinds of Information Sources in a Nibiru Library
(25) Bob Dean – Original Interviews in all three parts

Making the Best of what Humanity has to Offer

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During the July 2023 interview with Dr. Salla (1), Thor Han (2) was very open about a number of people the Galactic Federation of Worlds have chosen to work with. This article gathers a few of his thoughts on them. It seems obvious that we are not a 5D-civilization yet, but that we have people who are able to do great things, even though they are still 3D-humans and have some flaws in their character. Nobody’s perfect and the Galactic Federation of Worlds has to accept that as a reality at this time in our history.

BILLIONAIRES, PUTIN AND TRUMP
In this interview, Thor Han did not mention the three billionaires that we have gotten to know for their alleged connection with the Jupiter accords (3). Het did mention the president of the Russian Federation, Vladimir Putin (4). He also talked about (president) Donald Trump when Dr. Salla asked Thor Han about his role.

Melania and Donald Trump (5)

Thor Han: “If you speak to your audience on your media, I do hope you will not attract troubles. We recognize Trump as an ally. We have always used him, worked with him. He is special in his ways. We do not agree with his way of living all the time. He is a human. But we helped him get all the power with the timeline war. We helped him. He has a very close ally, physically with him.

She is part of the Federation. She helped him on our behalf to secure the timeline. We needed him because he is not interested in personal power. He is not part of what you name the Deep State. Although he is a human with flaws, it was the best solution because he is not seeking any more personal political power. He wants the good for humanity despite his personal choice for his life. You understand, we do not support everything he has done regarding his life. But we have helped him get all the power because we needed someone like him.

General Glen David vanHerck
On January 7, 2023 Elena released a video in which she said that Thor Han would have had a visit in the Blue Ridge Mountains with a general who later turned out to be General Glen vanHerck (9). Almost 8 months later Thor Han leaves no doubt about the Federation’s contact with vanHerck. When Dr. Salla asked Thor Han about his thoughts regarding the seeming ‘struggle’ between vanHerck (NORAD and Northern Command) and Dickinson (Space Command), he answered:

Logo of Space Command and Northern Command (10)

Thor Han: “This is to me a good example. I haven’t meet Dickinson; I have met VanHerck. VanHerck is a very proud man, he likes to control everything. He is very good for his position. This is why he has been chosen. You need to understand, when these men arrive at such a responsibility, they are chosen for their skills of power, wanting power, wanting to control everything. They are despicable at keeping their positions. They are ready to do anything to keep their positions of power.

They forget about humility. They forget about their equality to other human beings, but this is why they are chosen. The empathy is very weak. I met VanHerck, he is a very proud man and very efficient in his work. This is why he was chosen. And I can understand struggles for power, but this is ridiculous; they should all work together. We tried to advice them, they do not listen. They need to work together. These two organizations are meant to work together. These human games should stop.

SOME FINAL THOUGHTS
The main reason for writing this article is the idea that the Galactic Federation of Worlds has chosen to work with people of Earth, even though they know, we all have our (personality) flaws. It’s not easy to find people in power who also act like fifth dimensional saints. I guess this goes for all of us, including the emissaries and the contactees. We all try to do the best we can, but we still are humans in 3D with all of its temptations and challenges. This must make working with people from Earth also a challenging adventure for our galactic supporters.

What do you think? Let me know in the comments below or in one of the Study Groups (11-14).

Putin gives Trump a football in Helsinki (6-8,15)

FOOTNOTES
(1) A Conversation with Thor Han Eredyon on Colonization of Pleiades & Earth Liberation
(2) On the Connection between Thor Han and Elena Danaan
(3) Elon Musk and Possible ET-links
(4) President Putin and the Far Sight Institute – I added parts of the Interview with Thor Han related to Putin at the bottom of this article. If you want to know more about the Russian Alien Race Book and how it connects to the information from Elena Danaan, see (17).
(5) Melania Trump reveals the 1 habit she wishes Donald Trump would give up
(6) Conn. Dems appalled, GOP mostly mute over Trump-Putin news conference – Also see a few Q-related articles on this website: (7,8)
(7) The Q-movement and the Andromedan Council
(8) On Q, the Anunnaki and Disclosure
(9) More Corroboration on the Meeting between Thor Han and the Earth Alliance on January 7, 2023 – This article contains link to the video by Elena Danaan and Dr. Salla’s article on this meeting.
(10) Lt. Generals Dickinson + VanHerck Up For U.S. Space Command + U.S. Northern Command Confirmations
(11)  Galactic Anthropology Library – I started this group for people who are not interested in all the group dynamics within the disclosure community.
(12) If you are interested in all those dynamics, however, you can go to the Elena Danaan and Disclosure Community Study Group which combines the study of the intel with the study of the fascinating dynamics within the disclosure community.
(13) The Alex Collier Study Group tries to stay closer to the Alex Collier material.
(14) Telegram group for updates – Galactic Anthropology
(15) In an interview with Sacha Stone on August 14, 2023 (16) Elena Danaan said that both Trump and Putin were on the same (‘white hat’) side.

Elena confirms that according to her sources both Donald Trump and Vladimir Putin are white hats

(16) CONVERSATION WITH SACHA STONE ~Tracing Humanity’s Journey to Enlightenment and Liberation ~ Aug 2023
(17) On the Link between the Russian Book of Alien Races and Elena Danaan’s A Gift from the Stars

Anchoring a Timeline and JP’s Four Time Rooms

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One of the goals of this website is to archive the disclosure information into readable articles, which can be used for future reference, and who are also understandable for people who are new to this material. I am glad to notice there is more interesting information being released the last couple of weeks. This post is about a ‘time device’ that JP, the military contact of Dr. Salla (1), witnessed in June 2023 (2). It also contains the perspective of Thor Han on this device (3).

FOUR DOORS – FOUR POINTS IN TIME
On June 23, 2023, JP had a mission in an undisclosed location. You can hear all about it at (2). Below is a short description by JP himself, on what he was shown (41 seconds):

JP describes the four rooms with dates on them (2)

He describes how he saw a man materialize in one of the rooms, the one with 2050 above the entrance. He was wearing different clothes. When he got out he was taken to a separate room where he was cleansed, and consequently given other clothes and then he entered the 1550s room (2).

The years above the rooms were 1550s – 1940 – 2050 and 2090. In one of the Study Groups we reflected upon the 1550s: what could have happened then that would be relevant enough to make a ‘time room’ for it? (4)

THOR HAN SPEAKS ABOUT THE TIME DEVICES
On July 24, 2023 we were all happily surprised by the release of an interview of almost an hour in which Dr. Salla was able to ask all kinds of questions to Thor Han (6), who spoke directly through Elena’s implant (3). One of the questions was about these devices that JP had spoken about. Here’s the relevant interaction related to this aspect:

A Mesh (13)

“Michael Salla: I have just released an update from my Army source JP who says that he went to a facility where there were four time travel devices. One to the year 2090, one to the year 2050, one to the year 1940 (14) and the other to the year 1550. Do you know anything about who is working with the military in developing and using those time travel devices and what is their objective?

Thor Han:  This is us. We are working with the Earth Alliance (7) and certain aspects of the military. Your contact JP is working with the good side and he is used to reveal the truth. These time devices, we have helped the military to develop that because the other side was developing also, Nebu (8,9) technology related to time travel. You know it has been a time war.

And we have helped our friends, our allies on Terra. They are key points in anchoring a timeline. You do not anchor a timeline just on one point but on a web of many points, like a mesh if you want. These dates, are dates in the past and in the future of this timeline, to make sure it is anchored and to make bridges, to create, “quantum” as you name it, links to anchor the timeline.

Things are going to change, and these particular points, they are points of weakness, they are bifurcations of time. Time, as you know, is not linear. It is not ephemereal or abstract;  time is something that has no value in the absolute. It is a web like a grid, if you will, and each point on the grid are bifurcations. We need to secure them.” (3)

SOME FURTHER REFERENCES
Two rooms were situated in the future. This reminded me of Elena Danaan’s looking glass-experiences of both 100 year (10) and 20 years (11) in the future. We have come across all kinds of examples of technological devices. You can find many of them in the article ‘To Record you Past Lives” (12).

The Battle of Nueremberg, 1561 (5)

FOOTNOTES
(1) Now Available – US Army Insider Missions – Book 8 in SSP Series
(2) JP Update – US Military working with Nordic ETs in Time Travel research on Space Arks
(3) A Conversation with Thor Han Eredyon on Colonization of Pleiades & Earth Liberation
(4) See the Alex Collier Study Group There was a funny event that took place in 1561, which was called the Battle of Nueremburg /Nürnberg which seemed to have involved extraterrestrial fighting in the skies of Germany. See Wikipedia for more.
(5) Taken from Pinterest
(6) On the Connection between Thor Han and Elena Danaan
(7) The Earth Alliance
(8) The Nebu
(9) And the Lights went out for the Nebu
(10) Visiting a Meton Mothership (video, September 11, 2021). You can also find her experience aboard the Meton ship described in The Seeders (pp. 530-549)
(11) CONTACT Ep. 19 ~ THE FUTURE 20 YEARS FROM NOW – with Haben of Meton~ Dec 16 2022
(12) A Device to Record your Past Lives – This post contains a list of new technology devices
(13) Wireless mesh networks: Everything you need to know.
(14) A reader from the Galactic Anthropology Study Group noticed a small error here. In the original video and text (2) JP and Dr. Salla spoke of 1940; in the question to Thor Han, he accidentally said 1945 (3). Not a big deal of course, but it can be confusing; that’s why I decided to correct it here.


2030 as a Sort of Deadline – Alex Collier

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In an interview with Sarge and Karen from July 18, 2023, Alex talked about a deadline of a sort that would be situated in the spring of 2030. He wasn’t really told any specifics, but it would obviously be something that could not be missed, and apparently this would have freaked out the global cabal, and it stimulated the other party to try and ‘wake up’ as many people as possible. Listen to his words himself (about one minute):

Alex on some Galactic Event that would happen in 2030 (1)

He talks about some ‘galactic event’. I prefer not to speculate on what this ‘event’ could be, and if it will happen at all. These kind of ‘predictions’ tend to create all kinds of often unwanted dynamics. I just wanted to share Alex’ perspective on this. He later on compares it to a ‘divine reset‘.

It did remind me of that plasma bubble that would still encapsulate our complete solar system. This would have been placed by the Galactic Federation of Worlds to protect us from the fifth density frequencies. Just to buy us some more time (2).

Looking through looking glasses (4)

Join the Alex Collier Study Group (3) if you want to reflect a bit more on all this.

FOOTNOTES
(1) AN ALL WORLD CONVERSATION WITH “ALEX COLLIER” AND DR. K (VERY SPECIAL) – Sarge has got his own telegram group which you can join at https://t.me/icons2022
(2) Our Solar System in a Protective Plasma Bubble
(3) Alex Collier Study Group
(4) Through the Looking Glass (Youtube)

Were Humans 5D until the Fall of Atlantis?

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This is the second article in which I focus on the perspective of Larry Fulmer, based upon his various off-world and inner-world contacts (1). The first article in this series was about the green skinned people (3). This article explores another intriguing element within this perspective, namely that we as human beings would have been in 5th density up until the Destruction of Atlantis, which would have lowered our frequency to a 3rd density one (4).

HUMANS BEING BEYOND THE REACH OF THE ARRIVAL OF THE ANUNNAKI
In the video excerpt below (5) you can hear Larry explain what he has been told about the arrival of the Anunnaki and their interaction with us. Some 450,000 years ago the Anunnaki arrived on our shores and they tried to conquer our world, but they miserably failed because they could not reach us, for we would have been in a 5th density frequency and they were only 3D/4D. There were no genetic mutations made by the Anunnaki then. This is obviously different than Enki’s account of our history (6) and what we have learned from the work of Zecharia Sitchen (7).

The genetic mutations could probably only take place after humanity on Earth was lowered to a third density frequency. You can find more about that in the interview (5). Let’s listen to Larry himself (3 minutes):

Larry Fulmer speaks about the arrival of the Anunnaki and 5D people at the time (5)

THE DROPPING OF THE ASTEROID(S) ON OUR PLANET
Larry says that the Anunnaki after some 438 thousand (10) years decided on a plan to wipe out most of humanity, in order to make sure that the remaining ones would eventually lose their higher vibration to come down to their level, probably making them available for genetic manipulation. They, with Enlil leading this evil initiative, got themselves one or more asteroids from the Asteroid belt and sent them on a journey to hit Earth. This would have destroyed the peaceful civilization of Atlantis some 12,000 years ago.

This element of the dropping of an asteroid on our planet that caused the destruction of Atlantis was also mentioned in Enki’s account of our history in Elena Danaan’s work (6, 8)

ON A COLLISION COURSE WITH ENKI’S ACCOUNT OF OUR HISTORY
You don’t need to be an exopolitical history expert to realize that this theory is not compatible with the historical account that was shared with Elena Danaan by Enki. I won’t go into depth about all the various elements, but I will name a few to stimulate some discussion, and if I have learned anything from the disclosure community, it is that they love to freely reflect and compare the information given by contactees.

The Destruction of Atlantis (15)

First there is the timing: Enki said that the Anunnaki arrived here 372,000 BC and that he soon after, added his genomes to the ‘blackheads’ that were walking on the face of the Earth (9, pp 494,495). In Larry’s account this mutating of genes only happened after the Fall into 3D after the destruction of Atlantis less than 12,000 years ago.

Then about the people that the Anunnaki encountered: they would have been beings that were in a higher density than the Anunnaki themselves. These don’t seem to be ‘primitive blackheads’. How could they have been this advanced, some even ascending into 6D, without Enki’s genetic expertise? Within Larry’s theory humanity would have lived on Earth for millions of years when the Anunnaki arrived. There is no mention at all of human civilizations on our planet in Enki’s account before their arrival (11).

Well, I will leave it at this for now. What are your thoughts on this? Would there be more sources confirming Larry’s account of our history? Would other sources confirm Enki’s account? How does it match with Lacerta’s account for instance (12)? Perhaps Elena should ask Arkelios’ perspective on all this (13)? Share your thoughts in the comments or in the various Study Groups (14).

FOOTNOTES
(1) I created a topic called ‘The Larry Fulmer Files‘ in the Galactic Anthropology Study Group in June 2023. You can read that thread there. Since then Larry has left the group and he removed a few items from that thread. There’s also another thread in which I analyze one of his talks with Hermes (2).

He has his own youtube channel and he started his own (telegram) group at LarryFulmerChat. I was part of that group a couple of days before I was booted by Larry. Despite that I still think that Larry’s material is interesting to study and compare with other sources. I take a neutral position to his work. I have learned that studying this material implies looking beyond the personalities with their funny ways. And for the record, I have got my own funny ways as well 🙂
(2) Exploring Larry Fulmer Videos – This thread is filled with lots of links to other articles on this website.
(3) The Green-skinned People from Earth
(4) This didn’t happen over night as Karen said in (5), but it took a few thousand years for the process of the lowering of our 5D to 3D to take place.
(5) INNER WORLD CONVERSATION WITH LARRY FULMER AND DR. K PART 1
(6) Enki’s account on the Fall of of Atlantis – From this post you can find links to others accounts related to the destruction of Atlantis.
(7) Sitchen, Z. (1976) The 12th Planet.
(8) “Only the final phase was brutal, with the culmination of the inner conflicts and the final strike in a growing warfare with the Ciakahrr, that resulted into the crash of an artificial meteor.” (9, p.508)

In Elena’s book, The Seeders (9), it is not specifically said who was behind this meteor, but Elena later added that it was Enlil. In Alex Collier’s understanding it were some ‘Pleiadean’ groups that were behind the dropping of this meteor (6).


(9) Danaan, E. (2022) The Seeders
(10) I am showing off my mathematical skills here. If the Anunnaki arrived here 450,000 years ago, and Atlantis was destroyed 12,000 years ago, they waited for 438,000 years.
(11) This structural omission of any civilization before the arrival of the Anunnaki is one of the elements that is recurrent in Enki’s account of our history. See Analysis of Enki’s Account on our History – Some Oddities
(12) Lacerta on the Seeding of Humanity by those from Aldebaran
(13) Arkelios Describes his Inner Earth World
(14) The Galactic Anthropology Library (Telegram) or join one of the Study Groups (Elena Danaan/ Alex Collier) or the group that notifies you of new articles: Galactic Anthropology
(15) Image taken from Unarium Wisdom


On Green-skinned People

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Within this field of disclosure there are many concepts and ideas that are way off for the majority of people living on our world today. Everything related to intelligent extraterrestrial life is often still brushed off as ‘food for wacko’s‘. During the last two years I have opened up to what I consider the reality of extraterrestrial life and I was willing to accept many elements as possibly real which might seem outlandish for many. But even within this vast new territory I came across certain ideas that I preferred to ignore, at least for the time being, for it was even too odd for me.

Deviant Art by Vanmak3D (5)

One of those concepts was the one introduced by the Andromedans from Alex Collier about human beings who would have had green skin before a terrible nuclear event took place more than four hundred thousands of years ago. This nuclear war would have changed the colors of our skins (1).

But last month, Larry Fulmer, a contactee, was told by one of his contacts from the Inner Earth, that indeed, the original human beings on Earth would have had green skin. This immediately makes that claim turn more valuable, for, why would two contactees share this claim? It was enough reason for me to gather these two sources into an article on this.

ALEX COLLIER ON THE ORIGINAL GREEN SKIN OF HUMANS
In his book ‘Defending Sacred Ground’ (3) from 1996, Alex Collier speaks about green skinned people in the context of a great war. Read along with what he said:

“In your linear time of 3rd density measurement, of 439,231 rotations ago [years], war on a grave scale occurred in your Solar System. This aggression occurred against those on your worlds that included not only you Terrans, but also those called Nibiru. This invasion of your systems by Orion was led by a queen named Suttee. This (war) was destructive on many levels [frequencies) of physicality.

“We will focus tonight on your Terran physical form…. The last grave conflict was very harmful to your physical form. Many weapons of destruction, many of atom-splitting (nuclear weapons) have been used. This is the reason for most of your Terran skin tones. We shall explain…. Nibiru won, but only a short battle, before they and other outposts were forced to leave (the solar system) because of genetic damage. Your original races were green-skinned.

Symbol for Radioactivity (6)

This we know, because of large copper traces in your Terran 22 blood type (refers to the composite of human genetics which comprise genetic codes from 22 humanoid species). Also, the pituitary and thyroid (glands) were fully functional (at that time). The genetic damage to these organs was caused by (the) radioactivity in (the) air and all things of contact (on all things in the environment).

The air was like this for a long time. ” It (the radioactivity in the environment) caused the genetic memory of these organs (genetic memory of full-use capacity) being closed and almost atrophied (caused the function of the organs to shut down and the organs to atrophy).

Your world experienced drastic changes in climate and massive magnetic fluctuations. Your different skin tone races are a result of an edema damage to your blood (changes in blood chemistry). It was (then) necessary for survival to create self-sufficient and contained environmental habitats, (both) above and below the surface. (3, p.62)”

There’s not much that I can add to this. One might expect that the shrinking of the pituitary and thyroid glands might have had a huge impact on our level of awareness too, even though the pineal gland was not specifically mentioned, here. What is interesting that Alex also mentions the creation of habitats below the surface.

LARRY FULMER AND THE GREEN SKINNED HUMANS FROM INNER EARTH
In June 2023 I got into contact with Larry Fulmer (7) and a few weeks after that he started to get into more active (most of the time not physical) communication with people from the Inner Earth. You can read all about it at his YouTube site and his telegram channel (7). Two of his contacts live or lived in the Inner Earth. They both had green skin when they were alive. Let’s listen to a fragment in which he describes Hermes, a 6D human from the Inner Earth (20s):

Larry Fulmer introduces Hermes, a green-skinned human from Inner Earth (9)

In a video interview from July 20, 2023 (10), we can hear Larry say that he lived a life as an original (green-skinned) human, which would allow him to contact them at this moment. Many of these original people would have gone underground some 2 million years ago after the destruction of Maldek. There was also radioactivity involved that would have changed the color of the skins of the people on the surface. I will get into that aspect in a future article. I would like to stick to the color ‘green here.

DAN WINTER ON GREEN AND RED BLOOD
While thinking about green skin I was reminded by something that Dan Winter said in one of his interviews with Elena Danaan (11). It probably has nothing to do with the green people from Inner Earth, and Dan Winter can get carried away in his enthusiasm too. I will leave you with his theory about green and red blood. Was Osiris indeed depicted as green in Egypt? (49s)

Dan Winter talks about green and red blood (11)

It would say it is interesting to hear Dan say that Enki expected green-skinned people, but was surprised to find people with red blood. I also remember having heard that the Eben that would have landed here in the 1950s would have had blood based on chlorophyl too (12). If you have got more info on this, don’t hesitate to comment below this article, contact me, or join the Galactic Anthropology Library (2).

THE MURDRAT FROM VATUUKAT
In Elena Danaan’s 2024 Encyclopedia Galactica (14) she also mentions a green humanoid species that used to live in the underground. Not on our planet, but on a planet called Vatuukat somewhere in the Auriga constellation (see 14, p.173). In that book she writes: “The Murdrat are indigenous human species of unknown origin, who appeared one day from the inner realms of the planet. The Murdrat are green skin, geen hair and golden eyes humanoids. They are much involved in the life and economy of the planet, working closely with the Vyn and the Taal. Murdrat have powerful psychic powers, use telepathy to manipulate other beings’ mind and some of them can even alter space-time reality” (14, p.173)

The Murdrat were introduced in Star Nation News, episode 60 in January 2025 (15)

THE MOREKAT FROM THE CANCER CONSTELLATION
A humanoid green-skinned species can also be found on the planet Luyu in the Leyka Ta System in the Cancer constellation. These people are called Morekat (14, p.264-265). Their green skin would be the result of the “…manganese and copper rich waters, atmosphere and base food source” (14, p.265). Elena presented the Morekat in a Star Nation News episode from April 2025 (16) . Here’s the relevant excerpt:

On the Morekat (16)

ON SKIN COLOR AND HEMOGLOBIN
On July 18, 2025, Elena Danaan posted something related to the color of the skin and the composition of the blood (17).

“Green skin color is quite a common occurrence in the universe through many cultures, and is due to sulfhemoglobin, a modified form of hemoglobin that contains sulfur. Contrarily to blue blood, also frequent, that is composed of a copper-based protein called hemocyanin. In both cases, skin shades can vary in intensity from pale to intense, regarding genetic markers.” (17)

FOOTNOTES
(1) What really happened 439 thousand years ago? Two Conflicting Accounts
(2) The Galactic Anthropology Library (Telegram) or join one of the Study Groups (Elena Danaan/ Alex Collier) or the group that notifies you of new articles: Galactic Anthropology
(3) Defending Sacred Ground – Below is a video in which Alex also talks about this. This excerpt is from a video that was recorded in november 1996. I posted it already in the context of the two conflicting accounts surrounding 439 thousand years ago (1) (almost 2 minutes)

Alex Collier talks about green-skinned people (4)

(4) Andromeda Council – Alex Collier 1996 – ( Part 1-2) – Deutsch subtitles (HQ). (starts from about 31′)
(5) Deviant Art
(6) Dreamstime
(7) I created a topic called ‘The Larry Fulmer Files‘ in the Elena Danaan Study Group in June 2023. You can read that thread here. Since then Larry has left the group and he removed a few items from this thread. There’s also another thread in which I analyze one of his talks with Hermes (8). He has a youtube channel and he started his own (telegram) group at LarryFulmerChat. . I was part of that group a couple of days before I was booted by Larry. Despite that I still think that Larry’s material is interesting to study and compare with other sources. I take a neutral position to his work. I have learned that studying this material implies looking beyond the personalities with their funny ways. And for the record, I have got my own funny ways as well 🙂
(8) Exploring Larry Fulmer Videos – This thread is filled with lots of links to other articles on this website. By the way, you can find another excerpt from the Larry Fulmer material at (13).
(9) Loqma Green skinned Original human
(10) INNER WORLD CONVERSATION WITH LARRY FULMER AND DR. K PART 1 (fragment lasts a minute and a half).

Larry and Karen speak to Sarge Sovereign on green-skinned people (10)

(11) THE NINE: Diving into the origins with Dan Winter ~ Feb 23 2022 (6pm EST) (see at about 1h04′)
(12) I wrote a piece on the Eben at Genetic Experiments and Cloning on Planet Serpo by the Peacful Eben
(13) How Marduk became the Ruler of Saturn
(14) Danaan, E. (2024) Encyclopedia Galactica part I
(15) STAR NATION NEWS 60 ~ 13 01 2025
(16) STAR NATION NEWS 73 ~ 28 04 2025
(17) Telegram Post Elena Danaan – Copy in GA Study Group

On Light Language

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During an older video from 2020, Annax talked about various things (1). One of those was the concept of what we call ‘Light Language‘. This article explains a bit about light language and besides information from Annax it also features an example of light language from Rebecca Rose (2).

WHAT IS LIGHT LANGUAGE?
I think Vickylynn Chan gives a definition of light language that fits quite well with what Annax and Rebecca Rose are talking about. She writes: “Light language is an intuitive language of the soul. Some people refer to it as the language of spirit, star language or speaking in tongues. It’s how the soul communicates information carried in energy that is coming from higher spiritual realms. It does this by expressing it through the human body in different forms of light language.

An example of written Light Language by Rebecca Rose (4)

Traditional human languages, like English, are linear languages. These are left brain languages that the conscious mind can easily analyze to understand. On the other hand, light language is multidimensional. It’s creative, artistic, emotional and dynamic. This makes it a right brain language and is not something the conscious mind can analyze. Basically, it’s just a different way of communicating and connecting.

Light language contains encoded information. Think of it like an encrypted zip file that carries dense amounts of information. Your soul knows how to unzip it, decode it and use the information.” (3)

ANNAX ON LIGHT LANGUAGE
In the following excerpt below you can hear Annax talk about the way the Egaroth use light language. He says that the Egaroth have a particular cavity in the back of their throat that allows them to make certain sounds that cannot be reproduced with a human body, since we don’t have that particular cavity. This explains why we can’t actually hear Annax speak in light language. Rebecca Rose in the next excerpt does present us with a nice example of what light language can sound like.

Annax speaks about Light Language

Annax (using Elena’s implant) said that he considered the question on light language a beautiful one. He says that light language could be considered as the language of the heart, “and whatever sound you put on it, it will be your being expressing itself….to put sound to a frequency. Light language is the language of the higher beings on higher densities of this universe.…The way we speak it as Egaroth is by sound modulation. We do this with the back of our throat. We have a little cavity at the back of our throat, at the base of our skull. We can produce these sounds which would be like whistling to you. This is the way we speak light language.

Different species, speaking different languages will express light language in a diverse range of sounds and languages….light language is the expression of the connection and the communication with source, with light…..and whatever the words or the sounds you put on it, it is what is carries that is the light language, not the sounds that you hear.

Annax adds that when you are not in your body (your avatar) there still is light language even though you don’t have a body to produce the sounds.

REBECCA ROSE ON LIGHT LANGUAGE
In a Q&A on a Russian youtube channel in February 2023 (2,5), Rebecca Rose was asked to explain what light language was. I enjoyed watching her response to that question:

Rebecca Rose on Light Language (2)

Rebecca says that light language really is communication from the Quantum Field, it’s from the stars, and in the above excerpt she brings some through. She only started to let these sounds come through some 7 or 8 years ago. “It’s a frequency that bypasses the human conceptual mind. It relates directly with the heart, the higher self, your energetics as a human. It comes through in all of her one-on-one sessions with clients.

She says that it helps her to elevate her field or frequency. She stresses that is really resonates with the heart-region. It is so about the higher field of love, a kind of unity consciousness. It is not a linear language. The host in the video says that the reason that it comes out with sound is that it can impact our body and person and everything, and Rebecca confirms that. Towards the end they reflect upon a possible connection with the phenomenon of speaking in tongues.

Written light language (9)

SOME REFLECTIONS
It is striking to hear the similarities in the way both Annax and Rebecca Rose describe light language. Elena Danaan warns about light-codes that are used to heal others (6). I don’t think she is referring to light language when she uses the word ‘light-codes’. This doesn’t seem to be about ‘light language activation’ either.

So, tell me, what do you think about this concept of light language? Let me hear your thoughts in the comment section below or share your thoughts in the Galactic Anthropology Library (7). You can also follow my work through my telegram channel (8).

FOOTNOTES
(1) One of the subjects he broached was dealt with in this article: Annax: “The Anunnaki were called P’taal”
(2) REBECCA ROSE – ANSWERING THE RUSSIAN SPEAKING AUDIENCE’S QUESTIONS (02.26.2023). For more on Rebecca Rose see (10)
(3) What is Light Language? A Beginner’s Guide
(4) I asked Rebecca if she could track down the source of this. I downloaded it back in february 2023 and I forgot to note down where I got it from.
(5) Astralionica – 4
(6) On her debunk page Elena writes about light-codes and being ‘healed’ by them. I don’t think she is talking about light language here. Here’s the relevant part from her website (accessed July 16, 2023) :

“ACTIVATION, LIGHT-CODES & DOWNLOADS: You do not need anyone or any “event” to “activate” you, as it is not how things work. In order to complete the great awakening to who you truly are, you need to undergo the journey by yourself, do the work yourself. Relying on someone else to do it for you is BS. It is the PROCESS that is important. If you don’t undergo the process of your dark night of the soul, grow by healing your wounds, perform the alchaemical transmutation, you will not reach out to a higher level of consciousness. People who offer to do it for you, in exchange for money or/and popularity, to feed their purse or their ego, are bullshitters.

Do NOT let ANYONE manipulate your energy field, chakras etc… They ask for your consent and whatever the level of love & light narrative, do not be fooled. YOU NEED TO DO THE WORK BY YOURSELF ONLY! It is not because it is labelled “Light” that it is wonderful. These are just labels. You can sell poison labeling it “medicine”. A more concerning aspect is that some of these bullshitters want to access your DNA frequency… and are often either Gray Hybrids or either MK Ultra programmings. They want your soul, honey, do not sign your consent! The only way up is within.

Light-Codes are either a New Age fantasy or either programs downloaded for you to install in yourself… just wow, wow nope! All these non-sense are elaborated to stop you to find your own power, to hijack your Awakening and take your sovereignty away. So take it back now! Go within by meditation, introspection, and meet the beautiful being who inhabits this body. By attuning to its frequency, you attune to the whole universe. They just don’t want you to find this out.”
(7) The Galactic Anthropology Library
(8) Main Galactic Anthropology Telegram Channel
(9) http://ratnadewithin.org/what-is-light-language/
(10) You can find more links to articles with info from Rebecca Rose from this page: Could there be Various Perspectives within the Galactic Federation of Worlds?

The Royal Quarters of the Anunnaki on the Nibiru Ship

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( Les quartiers royaux des Anunnaki sur le navire Nibiru )

On July 10, 2023 Dr. Michael Salla posted an interview he did with Elena Danaan (1). It was her first visit to the Exopolitics studio where they physically met. I guess their last physical meeting must have been in October 2022 after the GSIC conference. In this interview there was a lot of talk about Enki and the Anunnaki. My attention was drawn to the fragment in which Elena described the royal quarters in the Nibiru ship and the way that differs with the way the Galactic Federation of Worlds have organized their ships.

The following fragments starts off with Elena expressing her admiration for the wisdom of Ea (2), followed by a short tour of the Nibiru ship (3,4).

Elena Danaan talks about the Royal Quarters on the Nibiru Ship

“Usually when I visit some motherships where there are certain type of people or culture or when I go to Ganymede for instance they are Ginvo (5) or there are other people they have an uniformity in their standards. For the Anunnaki it is different” (1)

Elena goes on to explain that the Anunnaki in effect have two categories: the normal ones and the royals. These royals have their own special quarters with a baroque like atmosphere; she even describes a river running through their segment (“It is absolutely mind-blowing!“). Beautiful fragrances and plants that Elena has never seen anywhere else. She speaks of extravagant architecture. Outside of these quarters the ship looks very futuristic, even more futuristic than that of the Galactic Federation of Worlds ships, she adds.

The royals have a specific bloodline that enables them to become nearly immortal (6).

SOME THINGS TO PONDER ABOUT
It has become customary for me to add a few questions to stimulate your own discernment and to reflect upon certain elements a bit more. You might remember how Elena told us that people like High Commander Ardaana and Thor Han regarded everyone on board as equally important. They only performed a different role. I personally liked that a lot. It seems that the Anunnaki have a different take on that. Dr. Salla spoke about a caste system and Elena seemed to confirm that. The fact that there is a special compartment on the ship with a stunning beauty, called the ‘Royal Quarters’ seems to be an argument for a distinction between people.

A Royal Crown (16)

Some say that the Anunnaki introduced this hierarchy between the Royals and the commoners on Earth too. This two-class society seems to still be an integral part of the Anunnaki culture. One might wonder how appropriate it is that Elena seems to fully support this caste-system. Another thought that came to mind was: if there is a royal quarter on the ship, who are all the other royal members, or does have Enki have a complete quarter alone for himself? I would like to learn more about these other royals and their links with each other. Who is who and why are they here?

Perhaps you are aware of a certain ritual that people perform to remove ‘stuck entities’ or negative energies from a house. The burning of white sage is used to clean an environment from these bad vibrations (7). Just imagine that Anunnaki (8) like Enlil, Ninurta and Marduk, all personifications of utter evil, have probably walked around in those stunningly beautiful Royal Quarters too. I think they could use an amount of white sage the size of a small moon to truly clear the bad vibes from that spaceship Nibiru. Would they have performed that ritual, I wonder.

I would like to leave you with another thing to ponder about. A little bit further in the interview Elena said described the Anunnaki and said: “they have I I noticed is that what about a species or their race they have this elongated skull a little more or less elongated so it’s I think it’s a common trait in their galaxy“. What does she mean with ‘their galaxy’? (9)

Share your thoughts and reflections below in the comments, or join our Galactic Anthropology Library (12) one of the Study Groups (13,14) or the general telegram group (15). This article is also published on Bibliotecapleyades.net (18).

FOOTNOTES
(1) Understanding Anunnaki History, the Return of Enki and the Impact on UFO Disclosure
(2) Although admiration for an extraterrestrial is fine, it also has a disadvantage, namely it might cloud the ability to remain discernful and objective. In this case with Elena and Ea (Enki) it seems that Elena’s bond with Ea has grown so strong that she can’t be expected to ask him any critical questions, let alone question the timeline of the history of our world that he presented to us. I have noticed a few odd things in that account that need clarification. See Analysis of Enki’s Account on our History – Some Oddities
(3) She has already spoken about a kind of ‘weapons museum’ on the Nibiru ship. See Enki shows Elena Danaan a Vajra with Plasma Beams
(4) For a bit more about the Nibiru ship see The Planet Ashtari and Spaceship Nibiru
(5) The Ginvo from Procyon
(6) Different Faces of Immortality

White Sage (17)


(7) Smudging: How To Burn Sage To Cleanse Your Space Of Negativity
(8) Since a couple of months Elena started to talk about the Anachim as a term that they would use for their own kind. This reminds me of what Annax said in the beginning of 2020. He said the Anunnaki were known as the ‘Pa-Taal’ before they genetically altered themselves. See for more about that: Annax: “The Anunnaki were called P’Taal”
(9) The Anunnaki are an elusive kind of species. You might remember Elena saying that they once entered our galaxy through the constellation of Bootes (10). On the other hand they would have also used the M42 (11) Portal in the Orion Zone as a conduit from another dimension where their homeworld would be (4). She might refer to that galaxy?
(10) The Aker and the Anunnaki
(11) The Orion Nebula and the Hive Mind
(12) Galactic Anthropology Library – I started this group for people who are not interested in all the group dynamics within the disclosure community.
(13) If you are interested in all those dynamics you can go to the Elena Danaan Study Group which combines the study of the intel with the study of all these dynamics.
(14) The Alex Collier Study Group tries to stay closer to the Alex Collier material.
(15) Galactic Anthropology
(16) King Charles III to Receive Scotland’s Crown Jewels Adorned with Nearly 100 Pearls
(17) White Sage on Etsy
(18) The Royal Quarters of the Anunnaki

Annax: “The Anunnaki were called P’taal”

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I was listening to an old video from January 2020 in which Annax (1) was using Elena’s implant to have a Q&A with Elisa. They talked about things like the moment the soul enters the embryo, what light language is; they mentioned religions but towards the end I was surprised to hear Annax say that the Anunnaki were not called Anunnaki in the beginning, but P’Taal (!). So what is that all about?! Here’s the fragment.

Annax: “The Anunnaki were called P’taal”

Annax: “This is the story of the start of your humanoid actual appearance. Anunnaki were not called Anunnaki. They were called ‘P’taal’. This was before they modified themselves to look more humanoid. Anunnaki means ‘human like’. They are at the start Reptilian-grays…A species on their own.“

ABOUT THE P’TAAL
In order to get a better grasp on what Annax has been saying here, back in 2020, before the arrival of Enki’s team in our Solar System, I will remind you of a few things about the P’Taal. They perform a really important role in both the information from Alex Collier and Elena Danaan. Let’s first hear what Thor Han has to say about the Pa-Taal:

“We prefer to call them the ‘Do’ or the ‘Guardians’. It concerns the group of twenty-four advanced cultures ahead of the Intergalactic Confederation, those who are responsible for the seeding and propagation of life throughout the Universe. They are also known by the name of those who founded their group of twenty-four: the Pa-Taal” (2, p.70, 3)

The Seeder Race called the P’Taal (image by Elena Danaan from the Seeders (2, p.91)

The Andromedan contacts of Alex Collier also talked about the Pa-Taal:

“Again, according to the Andromedans, we humans are part of a group of energies that they know of as the Paa Tal. The reason that the Andromedans use the word Paa Tal, which is by the way a Draconian word, is because the Draconians have legends about warring with a race that was creating human life forms that were opposed to Draconian philosophy. The Paa Tal created life forms that could evolve on their own, with free expression.” (4)

In another article, focused on the experiment that the Pa-Taal started by adding their genomes to a primate tens of millions years, you can read more about the Pa-Taal (5)

THE P’TAAL AND THE ANUNNAKI
You might understand my surprise when I heard Annax say that the Anunnaki used to be called ‘The P’Taal’. What could that mean? And by whom were they called like this? I could sure use your thoughts on this. I mean, there could be no greater contrast than this concept of the original extragalactic seeder races, who placed humanoids in the Lyra system and who started the experiment with combining the genomes of many intergalactic species in that primate on Earth, and the Anunnaki, infamous for their cruel practices (6).

Could it be that the Anunnaki were a kind of ‘P-taal-wannabe’s’ and therefore used that almost ‘holy’ name of the P-taal? Or is there a more sinister part to all this, like the Anunnaki really were the ancient P’Taal? But then again, the word P’Taal has gotten two meanings: they are used to denote all the 24 Seeder races from the Intergalactic Confederation, but they can also refer to one of those races, who carry the name P’taal too.

Well, I prefer to believe the ‘wanna-be’ option, but I would love to hear what Elena’s and Alex’ sources have to say about this element. You can share your thoughts in the Galactic Anthropology Library (9) and the Alex Study Group (10). You can also subscribe to my telegram channel and consider sharing this article in other groups.

EA WORKED CLOSELY WITH THE P’TAAL
In Star Nation News, episode 8 in december 2023, Ea mentioned the P’Taal. Let’s listen what he had to say about him working with the P’Taal.

Ea on working with the P’Taal (11)

What does this mean? “I worked closely with some of them [the P’Taal], trying to save the most beautiful human experience of all: the humans of Ki” When and how did Ea (or the Anunnaki in general) work with the P’Taal, and with which species from this Seeders-collective? If anyone has any ideas on this, please share them below or in the Study Group (9).

FOOTNOTES
(1) Annax is an Egaroth with an Arcturian soul. The Egaroth are part of the Council of Five. You can find a drawing of Annax at the page on the Council of Five (almost Six)
(2) Danaan, E. (2022) The Seeders
(3) The Placing of Humanity Right Next Door to the Draco’s
(4) Defending Sacred Ground
(5) On Which Primate Foundation did the Seeders build the Human Race on Earth?
(6) Just for the record. It doesn’t seem that all Anunnaki are cruel and vicious. The Enki branch seems to be part of the right side of the family, so to speak (7), although there are a few odd things in his account of our human history of Earth, that still needs some clarification (8).
(7) Enki and the Andromedan Council
(8) Analysis of Enki’s account of our History – Some Oddities
(9) Galactic Anthropology Library – I started this group for people who are not interested in all the group dynamics within the disclosure community. If you are interested in all those dynamics you can go to the Galactic Anthropology Study Group, which combines the study of the intel with the study of all these dynamics.
(10) Alex Collier Study Group
(11) STAR NATION NEWS Ep 08 ~ Dec 11 2023

On Plasma Orbs and Metallic Orbs

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(For some reflections on the New Jersey ‘Drones’ see (17))

On July 1, 2023 Elena Danaan did a live interview with the Brazilian group Mundos Secreto (1,2), which you might consider to be an international Q&A. They talked about a few interesting things and I picked out the topic on two different kinds of Orbs, namely the plasma orbs and the metallic ones.

Plasma Ball (9)

ORBS
In an earlier article we touched upon orbs as well. These were not really the kind of orbs like the ones from this current article. Elena described those orbs as a kind of ‘devices’ that would allow one to travel through time and see other periods, with your consciousness ‘hidden’ within those orbs (3). As if your eyes were locked in that orb to watch other times without interfering in them. As JP would say, ‘pretty cool‘.

ORBS OR PROBES
Dr. Salla and his wife made a nice video on the other category of orbs (4). One of the first times that JP mentioned these orbs was when he visited some ancient library within a military base (5).

“He [JP] asserts that these orbs and the motherships where they originate from, were well known to the ancients, who knew that only individuals with the right genetics and consciousness could safely approach and interact with the orbs. The orbs contain an organic and/or artificial intelligence designed to protect themselves from those that get too close.” (5)

TWO KINDS OF ORBS
In the interview below Elena describes the difference between two kind of orbs or probes that are currently being used. First she talks about the plasma orbs, and then the metallic ones.


She explains that the difference depends on the technology used by different cultures. The plasma probes are in use by the nations from the Intergalactic Confederation (6) and the metallic ones are used by the Galactic Federation of Worlds. In the above excerpt Elena refers to the base of the Alteans (7), one of the 24 Seeder Races in the Himalayas. A base that was also described by the Frenchman Robert L. (8). He said that he could see his own home in France while he was in the Himalayas, by using one of those plasma orbs.

These orbs are not only used as a remote viewing camera, they can also collect information, data. They can scan energy signatures, DNA signatures and even blood type signature. The metallic probes of the GFW have the same functionality as the plasma ones from the Intergalactic Confederation.

In December 2024, Elena spent some more time on these two kinds of ‘orbs/drones’ (18). She presented the following illustration to clarify the difference between the flying objects of the GFW and the Intergalactic Confederation.
Two kinds of extraterrestrial flying objects (screenshot from 18)

DRONES FROM THE INNER EARTH?
I used to have a paragraph here with information of Larry Fulmer, but because of all kinds of developments I have become to seriously doubts his sources. You can still access this questionable information at End Note 226 (11).

WHOSE ORBS ARE ALSO PRESENT?
In the second part of the interview Dr. Michael Salla talked to Thor Han through Elena Danaan’s implant (13). In that interview Elena herself also asked Thor Han a question about Arks and Orbs. Here is that interesting interaction:

ED: Okay. Question for Thor Han. There are different sorts of Arks, okay? Not all from the Intergalactic Confederation. You have Anunnaki Arks, as you said. Are there other cultures who left orbs here on Terra? Please.

TH: Alright. We have orbs belonging to other ships of other cultures. Errahil, Selosi (15), and also ancient civilization that have now left the Sol System before the Anakhim arrived. A civilization discovered Terra and left technology. They were not the Intergalactic Confederation. They were others, interdimensional cultures. They left technology, ships, and this is very ancient. This also is releasing signals because they have manifested, because you understand, now Terra has been liberated from the long time dark presence. And now, all the ancient technologies belonging to different cultures are activating, and these ancient cultures are manifesting to now rejoin with their technology and their envoys. This will be a brand new world. You have barely an idea of what it could be and what it will be. All together. (13) Would Thor Han be referring to the Ancient Builders Race? (16) Well, I hope that one day all things will be clarified.

THE KORENDI AND ORBS
Robert Renaud (in the 1960s) how we was teleported (19) to an undersea Korendi (20) base off the coast of California where he was shown some kind of monitoring room. Even though he doesn’t use the word ‘orb’ he does seem to describe them nevertheless:

Robert Renaud (image taken from 21)

“As usual he gives an extreme detailed description of the equipment in the base he can see – ex how they get oxygen and fresh air down there. And he get into the control room of their earth- crafts with a lot of panels, recorders, 3d-telescreens, monitors, and flight control units. Here they could also fellow the unmanned discs.

In those days in the early 60ths, there was no color-tv’s, so he was impressed of all “in 3d+color.” He saw one 90cm small, fly over LA + one over an AirForceBase, where it was deliberately controlled so it was seen and they could then pick up the soldiers reactions through equipment.

In a room there they overlooked “all earth” through those unmanned and manned discs, from where they got pictures and data back on big monitors on the walls. They could also remote-control all the ships if necessary.” (21, pp. 33-34).

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FOOTNOTES
(1) Entrevista com Elena Danaan: 01/07/23 às 21:00h
(2) I once started the Brazilian site Brasileiros Galacticos together with this group. The translator, Fernando, in the video also added a few subtitles to videos on that Brazilian site, which I keep up to date.
(3) Traveling Safely through Time by Appearing as an Orb
(4) Orbs: Search for the Space Ark Crew – A Short Film
(5) JP Update on Ancient Library at Military Base Revealing History of Arks on Earth
(6) The Intergalactic Confederation
(7) If you take a look at On the Connection Between Thor Han and Elena Danaan you can read more about the Altean link Elena would have.
(8) French Contactee confirms Intergalactic Confederation is seeding human worlds
(9) Science in a Can
(10)  Telegram groups: Galactic Anthropology (general updates), Galactic Anthropology Study Group (most active group with hundreds of separate discussion topics) Alex Collier and Andromedans Study Group and the Galactic Anthropology Library. Elena Danaan also has her own telegram channel and even her own open telegram chat group.
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(c) Just want to have some fun? In December 2024 I started a Crypto Fun Project that is not about making a lot of money, but about using the crypto world as a canvas for the wildest links to personal, gondolath and galactic themes.
(11) Endnote 226
(12) See Endnote 226
(13) A Conversation with Thor Han on Earth Alliance taking control of our Solar System
(14) See Endnote 226
(15) On the Selosi from Alpha Centauri B
(16) The Unknown Ancient Architects in our Solar System
(17) Real or Fake Extraterrestrial Drones? Reflections on the New Jersey UFO Phenomena
(18) STAR NATION NEWS 58 ~ 23 12 2024
(19) Quantum Teleportation
(20) The Korendi from the Boötes Constellation
(21) Physical UFO Contact in the Early 1960s by an unknown Scandinavian writer