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The Stubborn Chinese Space Program

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On August 9, 2023 we were given the second part of the interview Dr. Salla did with Thor Han, with a lot of interesting topics. I hope to add a few articles based on the new information from that conversation (1), just like I did with the first part (2-5). This current article provides some background on the news about the Chinese role in the Earth Alliance (6). I will present three elements in chronological order.

Impression of Myrah from interview from July 2020

We start off with a conversation between Myrah and Elisa from July 2020 in which she talks about the Chinese mentality towards space explorations. Then we move on to their role within the framework of the Jupiter Agreements and then we end with the recent information from Thor Han.

MYRAH ON CHINA’S FACILITY ON THE MOON
In July 2020 Elisa Herrera did a few live sessions with Elena Danaan, in which people from the Galactic Federation of Worlds would use her implant to communicate. Often Thor Han was talking, and sometimes Myrah took the stage, so to speak. In a conversation that focused on the Moon (7-10) Elisa asked Myrah if she had any information on China and the Moon. Listen below to her very enlightening answer:

Myrah speaks (through Elena’s implant) about the Galactic Aspirations of China

Myrah said that the Chinese still had a small facility on the moon (that was in July 2020), but it was going to be attacked. She said: “China, they are not fit for galactic alliances. They have their own agenda and they not want to ally with other races. They will not survive in a galactic environment. They need to federate with the other countries on your planet. When they are able to do that, they will understand.

There is no future for them out of the boundaries and vicinity of planet Terra. They do not have the spirit, the mind to negotiate and ally. They want to do things on their own. It is not good for them.”

THE JUPITER AGREEMENTS FROM JULY 2021
A year after this above recording, and after the near-defeat of the malevolent extraterrestrial species the Jupiter Agreements were signed between all kinds of galactic groups and the Earth Alliance.

“The Jupiter meetings were a series of meetings that took place between the Galactic Federation, the Council of Five (8), the Andromeda Council (9) and leaders of the Earth Alliance (10) with their respective space programs. Leaders of corporations were also invited in the interest of manufacturing advanced technology to help defend the planet.” (11, p.38)

Thor Han also spoke about the Jupiter Agreements and the way the Chinese (and the Russian) delegation weren’t happy with the fact that the US Space Force would lead the Earth Alliance. They would have, however, grudgingly, accepted the terms.

China and Space Explorations (13)

“Thor Han showed me also the only visual memory he had of these events: viewed from his ship, three ovoid crafts leaving the orbit of Jupiter after the second of this series of three ultimate meetings. Each craft had Earth military delegates onboard, by country.

He didn’t tell me what the third was, but two of them were carrying Chinese and Russian officials, and he was told that both these crowds were very unhappy. He said that the USA won the responsibility to organize the new Earth’s united space coalition.” (12)

CHINA BUILDING THEIR OWN SEPARATE SPACE FLEET
In the July 8, 2023 interview with Thor Han, Michael Salla asked him about the absence of the Chinese military in a huge project that is launched near Jupiter (19). Thor Han answered as follows:

“TH: They didn’t want to continue working with us. They want to build their own force in space. This is not acceptable. They will fail because they do not have any support from any organization of the Galactic Alliance. We are working by diplomatic actions to influence them to not do this because it will cause economic failure to their country on Terra. They are spending a lot of funds to build a space fleet that will not be linked to the Galactic Alliance, or to the Earth Alliance. They will be on their own. And this is ridiculous. This is a question of pride. They want to make more profit while not being part of the Alliance.” (1)

CHINESE SPACE PROGRAM AND LINKS WITH DEEP STATE
During a third interview with Thor Han in October 2023 (20) more details were given about the Chinese Space Program. As you can hear in the excerpt below Thor Han explained that the forces behind the US Deep State, like the banks, are behind the Chinese Space Program. This doesn’t mean that the whole of China would be controlled by the Deep State. The powers would currently be split evenly. There is also a part on the role of Russia, where Vladimir Putin is explicitly mentioned as being a white hat, on the side of the Earth Alliance (6). Let’s hear Elena (Thor Han) speak about it herself:

Chinese Space Program and the Link with the Deep State (20)

SOME REFLECTIONS
It is fascinating to hear that Myrah already talked about this rather stubborn approach of the Chinese in space matters. They don’t like to ally with others and it seems that you do really need some allies if you want to move on in the galactic world. They are not part of the Artemis Accords (14). It is not clear if they actually stepped out of the Earth Alliance. The recent information from October 2023 seems to point in that direction. They were part of a mission to the Atlantic Ark with JP (15). I guess they prefer to invest more in their own space program besides the Earth Alliance. To find out more about a few interesting theories about the possible origin of the Asian people, read (16).

If you want to share your thoughts join one of the telegram groups or comment below this article (17). You can subscribe to this website either through Telegram or through email (18).

FOOTNOTES
(1) A Conversation with Thor Han on Earth Alliance taking control of our Solar System
(2) A Conversation with Thor Han Eredyon on Colonization of Pleiades & Earth Liberation
(3) Anchoring a Timeline and JP’s Four Time Rooms
(4) Making the Best of What Humanity has to Offer
(5) Comparing Elena Danaan’s Intel Before and After the Arrival of Enki in our Solar System
(6) The Earth Alliance
(7) The US-Telos Alliance – What’s Left of Them?
(8) Did Aliens (Maytra) Chase the Americans from the Moon?
(9) Which ET-species were present on the Moon?
(10) Myrah Trying to Map the Genomes of Humanity
(11) Rose, M. (2021) Welcome to the Future. Amazon. (This book was written by Megan Rose with information from Val Nek, before the split with Elena Danaan. The Galactic Federation of Worlds have confirmed that everything in this book is true). I use this book regularly because it shortly summarizes all kinds of matters that are not as easy to find in Elena’s work.
(12) Secret meetings near Jupiter decide the future of our Solar System?
(13) Watch Out for Space Capabilities of China
(14) Artemis Accords, NASA

The countries that are part of the Artemis Accords as of August 2023

(15) Joint US China Mission to Giant ET Space Ark under Atlantic Ocean
(16) On the Origin on the Asian People
(17) Telegram groups: General Notices and Updates, Elena Danaan and Disclosure Community Study Group, Alex Collier and Andromedans Study Group and the Galactic Anthropology Library. You can of course also comment below the articles.
(18) Contact and Subscribe
(19) The Construction of an Interstellar Hub near Jupiter
(20) The Jupiter Hub, Moon, Medbeds, Ukraine & Israel/Palestine – A Conversation with Thor Han Eredyon

On the Consumption of Humans

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We have all kinds of articles on this website. This current article falls in the category of dark stories. Fortunately we have relatively few of those here, but sometimes certain aspects cannot be ignored. This article is not for the faint of heart and definitely not for children. Tony Rodrigues has told us about his horrific experiences during his 20-year-and-back program (1-4). Mark Domizio had some horrible stories to tell as well (5-7). On August 7, 2023 Alex Collier (8) talked about something gruesome that he was shown a number of decades earlier by his Andromedan contacts Moraney and Vasais (9).

A Child in a state of Anxiety/Fear (15)

HUMANS AS A FOOD SOURCE
Alex Collier said that he was ready to talk about this now in the light of the release of the movie ‘Sound of Freedom‘ (10) and the work by Mel Gibson (11), which both deal with child trafficking amongst others. He also mentioned Cathy O’Brien (12) Before I get to Alex and his revelations about the way certain reptilian species would have eaten people, mostly children, I want to first quote a relevant part from Megan’s Rose ‘Welcome to the Future‘, from november 2021 (13), because it was already well-known that certain species used humanity for ‘nourishment’. In this part Val Nek spoke about it:

“The Ciakahrr’s (14) main feeding grounds were underneath the Vatican in Rome. You see, the Ciakahrr’s, I am very sorry to say, consider humans as a food source and lust fro human blood. The more they eat, the stronger they become. They can shapeshift more easily, and they also become stronger in combat. Hence the reason why the Federation had to close the portal between two worlds.

So that no humans could be transported in and out, thus weakening their supply and weakening them in return. They are not able to think clearly when they are hungry, and they act irrationally and foolishly. Their conquest for blood has proven to be unsuccessful in recent months and has made it easier for the Federation to defeat them.” (13, p.68)

CREATING A*CHROME-RICH FOOD THROUGH TERRORIZING CHILDREN
Below you can watch Alex describe how Reptilians (probably the Ciakahrr, but he did not name them specifically) terrorized children in order to create ‘food’ that was high on adrenochr*me (6, 16).

Alex Collier on the horrific practices of certain Reptilians towards
human children (warning: not suitable for children!) (excerpt from 6)

In the above excerpt Alex talks about the Andromedan Holographic Camera (17). He described how these Reptilians terrified and tortured children endlessly, sometimes even using siblings who could watch the terror that was committed against their brother or sister. They would even – after terrifying them to near-death – eat them alive, their bodies filled with adren*chr*me.

He also described how certain Gray species (18) would smear the tops of their bodies with body parts and fluids of humans who were stored in certain vats. They would let their bodies absorb these fear-filled fluids and it worked as narcotics for them.

SOME FINAL REFLECTIONS
I would advise you to listen to more of this interview (6). I am just back from a short holiday in France, and I remember sitting in a metro (subway) and I saw a mother with a daughter of about 4 years and I was reminded of these awful practices and I felt an extreme sadness coming over me. This is beyond horrific.

We can be very glad that these awful creatures have all been chased out of our solar system the last couple of years. Alex said that these terrible procedures, these feeding frenzies, would have happened for thousands of years….

A few days after having published this article I wrote another short one that deals with the practice of humans being farmed as cattle in underground tunnels (19).

FOOTNOTES
(1) Age Regression by 20 Years
(2) Rodrigues, T. (2021) Ceres Colony Cavalier (Amazon)
(3) In Tony’s second book ‘Project Starmaker‘ (3) he describes how his 20-year-and-back were even extended with more than 10 years in another mission, in which he was inside the body of some other being. Here he describes what he saw when he looked into a mirror for the first time:

“I was not a human. I was a brownish-tan alien with three long fingers and a long thumb. I was skinny, with no hair, and had an interface port on the back of my neck, right at the base of my head. I had a skeletal structure, much like a human body. I was roughly five feet tall.” (3, p.44)

A Child in a state of Anxiety/Fear (15)

(4) Rodrigues, T. & Kenner, J. (2023) Project Starmaker: A Collection of Short Stories.
(5) Soul Splitting and the Andromedan Link
(6) A Horrible Perspective on what might have Happened to Malaysia Flight MH370
(7) The Extraction of Andromedan Light by an Insectoid in Dulce
(8) Alex Collier shares the horror of Reptilians and Grays
(9) Meeting Moraney and Changing the Colors of the Eyes
(10) Sound of Freedom (IMDB)
(11) Mel Gibson: Hollywood Elite Trying To Kill Me for Exposing Pedophile Ring
(12) Trance: The Cathy O’Brien Story
(13) Rose, M. (2021) Welcome to the Future (Amazon). This book was released before the split between Megan and Elena Danaan. The Galactic Federation of Worlds confirmed that they back everything within this book.
(14) The Ciakahrr
(15) Increasing Resiliency And Decreasing Anxiety – How To Help Your Child
(16) I am a bit careful in using the word that most of you know here, for it might have a negative impact on the search engines and that would go against the idea of disclosure, namely to attract as many people as possible to open them up to the idea of the reality of extraterrestrial intelligent life.
(17) Create your Own Holographic Akasha Set – See the bottom paragraph for more on this camera that Alex describes.
(18) Alex calls them ‘Dow’, we have come to known them as the Nebu.
(19) The Farming of Humans in Underground Tunnels

The Jewel of the Atlantic Ark

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Looking into the Ocean (9)

On July 20, 2023 Dr. Salla presented us with another fascinating video on one of JP’s missions (1). JP has shared so much of his experiences during his missions that it provided enough material to publish a book about it (2), and Michael Salla even speaks about volume 1 of a whole series of books, so we can expect a lot more in the future!

This article is about JP’s fourth mission in the Atlantic Ark located in the Bermuda triangle (3,4). You might remember some of the first three missions. There was this mission with a Chinese delegation (5), with ‘kuria-matte chanting’ Mayan-like people (6) who suddenly went missing and who were later ‘rescued’ by another delegation, including Russians (7). It turned out that they hardly need to be rescued for they had a great time there. In May 2022 JP again visited this Ark and then he described various rooms with different kinds of weightlessness amongst other things (8).

So after more than a year another mission in that huge Atlantic (space) Ark was organized and this time the goal seem to have been to go to a certain room and collect a powerful jewel. Below is an excerpt from this mission in which they actually take the jewel, where JP wonders if that really is the right thing to do (10). The story starts off right after they had entered a particular room and saw an Indian Buddha like statue which apparently held this jewel. (5 minutes)

JP describes the part of his mission related to the taking of a Jewel (10)

JP was told that this jewel was necessary to activate certain temples around the world. He was told that no matter where the jewel would be it would always be connected to it, as if it were an extension to the ark. Being in the vicinity of this jewel caused many of the people in the mission to become very sad and emotional. As if you could feel the sadness that our planet would be feeling. This jewel would also have been removed to prevent others from stealing it. The jewel was purple, black with white fluorescent lines.

JP was also reminded of the gift they got from the Ant People related to longevity (11). I am reminded of that gift they received after that funny mission in which he and a family member of his were forced to remain in some box for about 20 hours before they met a Nordic-looking 1200 year old- extra (or intra-) terrestrial who gave them something as well (12-14).

Be sure to watch the rest of the interview if you can find the time (1,17). What would happen to all those gifts that are received by JP and his team during all those missions? If you have something to share or to add as a result of this mission by JP, let yourself be heard (15). In september 2023 JP had another mission in this Atlantic Ark (18). During that mission with a few Nordic looking extraterrestrials the Jewel was brought back.

SHARED PAST LIVES?
During an interview with Dr. Salla in October 2024 (19) Elena Danaan and JP shared a remarkable account of their shared past lives during the drowning of Atlantis. The abovementioned Jewel of the Atlantic Ark would have been handed over to a previous reincarnation of JP by a previous reincarnation of Elena Danaan in order to save the ‘heart’ of this spaceship. The physical incarnation died and Elena’s would have returned on her homeworld Emerya (20). It was there that ‘JP’ would have arrived to hand back this jewel to the Altean Elena. An amazing account for sure. It would be great if we could some day verify it.

FOOTNOTES
(1) JP Update – 4th Mission to Atlantic Space Ark (article, July 20, 2023)
(2) Volume 1 of a new book series on JP’s missions and experiences, US Army Insider Missions, is available on Amazon & Lulu. More info here or click the banner below to view on Amazon.
(3) On the Other Side of the Bermuda Triangle – This is an article based on the intel Michel Desmarquet received from a species who call themselves the Thiaoouba. He was shown a rather strange dimension where people would have ended up after going through a possible portal in the Bermuda Triangle.

The Bermudas (16)


(4) There is a species that would have base in the Bermuda triangle region. Take a look at The Killimat-Arr from Gamma Crux and their facility under the Bermuda Triangle for more.
(5) Joint US China Mission to Giant ET Space Ark under Atlantic Ocean (article)
(6) These ‘Mayans’ inspired hundreds of people at the first GSIC meeting in Orlando to chant ‘a Kuria Matte’ as well during some surprise ritual, meant to activate some Anunnaki giant below the Florida surface. For more on that see Should we Welcome the Awakening Anunnaki Giants with Open Arms, or not?
(7) More on the Atlantic Ark and an Ark Summary – Rescue Mission with Russians participating
(8) 3rd Mission to Atlantic Space Ark – JP Update
(9) How to Build and Underwater Ship
(10) JP Update – 4th Mission to Atlantic Space Ark (video)
(11) On Traveling Seeds and Semen
(12) JP Update – Visit to Massive Spaceport under an unknown South Atlantic Island – They were given a crystal that allowed them to look into the future. Talking about presents and technology, you might want to take a look at the past life viewing device (13) and the four time doors (14).
(13) A Device to Record you Past Lives
(14) Anchoring a Timeline and JP’s Four Time Rooms
(15) Telegram groups: General Notices and Updates, Elena Danaan and Disclosure Community Study Group, Alex Collier and Andromedans Study Group and the Galactic Anthropology Library. You can of course also comment below the articles.
(16) Bermuda Readies for Americas Cup
(17) Someone reminded me of the fact that JP had said that they were told they had been inside for two days, although it felt as if they had only been in the Ark for a couple of hours (see 10, 19’20”)
(18) JP Update – Returning the Activation Jewel to the Atlantic Space Ark
(19) Mining Saturn’s Rings, Mining Ships & Space Arks with Elena Danaan, JP & Dr. Salla
(20) On the Altean Homeworld of Emerya



Comparing Elena Danaan’s Intel Before and After the Arrival of Enki in our Solar System

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I enthusiastically jumped on the Elena Danaan train back in september 2021. I was highly impressed with her information from her first two books and all the accompanying Q&A-videos at the times. This month Dr. Salla had a chat (1,2,3) with Thor Han (4) through Elena Danaan’s implant and I again had this nagging feeling that something was a bit off, and again in connection with the Anunnaki. This post asks some uncomfortable questions (5) about differences in intel before and after the arrival of Enki on the scene.

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What are the Differences (18)?

THE PRE- AND POST ENKI PERIOD IN ELENA’S INTEL
I think it is safe to say that Elena Danaan moved from a period in which she only worked as an emissary for the GFW, to a period where she also became a spokesperson for Enki/Ea, who is not part of the Galactic Federation of World. You could say that she has adopted a new function on top of her GFW-emissary-work. I jokingly referred to this second job as being an Eamissary too.

Elena got to meet Enki in september 2021 (6) and his role in her messages has grown bigger and bigger during the months that followed that meeting. When you look at this situation from a distance you might consider it a bit odd: why would one woman be the representative of both the GFW and a royal member of the Anunnaki empire, called Enki? (7) Are both parties in complete agreement with each other? Is there room for a difference in perspective, and how to deal with such differences if you are – in a way – wearing two Emissary hats?

This might seem like nothing more than a rather useless philosophical question, but it becomes more relevant when more and more differences between the narrative before and after the arrival of Enki seem to surface in Elena’s intel. I used to discard those differences, but I couldn’t ignore them any longer. So, what is going on here?

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The Pleiades – protected by the Anunnaki Empire? (19)

THE ANAKH PROTECTED THE PEOPLE IN THE PLEIADES
Let’s look at this interview between Thor Han and Dr. Salla (1) to better understand what I am trying to say here.

“TH: Enlil was never focused on the Pleiades. His focus was on the Galactic Sovereignty regarding the Sol System. We were never in trouble with Enlil. The Anakh Empire protected us. We were far from what was happening on Terra. Although in the vicinity, we were not concerned by the events on Terra.

MS: When you say the Anakh Empire protected you, was it because they had superior technology or because they had superior magic or occult abilities?

TH: Because we were on their territory. It was like a sort of allegiance if you will.” (1)

There are a few things that are remarkable in the above fragment. First there is the use of the word ‘Anakh’. In the pre-Enki days no one talked about the Anakh. Why are the Anunnaki being rebranded to Anakh, when no one used that term before the arrival of Enki? These people couldn’t have changed their name overnight could they? (8) Another thing is that I cannot find anything about the Pleiades being in some kind of alliance with the Anunnaki in the pre-Enki sources. Also the idea that they would be ‘protected’ by the Anunnaki is nowhere to be found. Why is that?

ANUNNAKI WERE ENEMIES OF THE PEOPLE OF LYRA
In the pre-Enki period Thor Han was way more critical towards the Anunnaki (9). In 2020 he said: “The Anunnaki are very strange people. We don’t have contact with them very much, they are not trustworthy people. I would say their ethics has very different levels than our ethics. (10).

In a ‘Gift from the Stars’ we can read:  Anunnaki have been the source and spreading of great genetic biodiversity and racial confusion throughout this galaxy for these reasons. Great enemies of the Lyrans but as as well of the Ciakahrr Empire. Technologically advanced and well equipped in warfare, their name is also feared in this galactic sector…. (11, p.230)

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Lyra (20)

Since the people on the Pleiades are also Lyrans, it seems odd that they received protection from those who they considered to be their great enemies in the pre-Enki period. Could this all be explained simply because the Enki-branch is the good branch of the Anunnaki, and they were there to protect the Pleiades?

PROTECTION ON ATLANTIS AS WELL?
Not only were the people from Erra (12) under the protection of the ‘Anakh’ empire in their home world, but their colony was also protected by the Anunnnaki when they were in Atlantis. They even ‘reverred’ Enki as the king of Atlaa:

MS: Does Ea or Enki, does he… what can of role has he played with the Errahel historically?

 TH: He protected us when we were on Terra. He always was curious about our society. We reverred him as king of Atlaa. Our colony was under his protection. We were in good terms. I wasn’t part of the Errahil, you understand, when I was in Atlaa. I wasn’t incarnated as an Errahel. I was incarnated as an Altean.

Again, in the pre-Enki sources I can’t find anything about the people of Erra being ‘protected by Enki, the King of Atlaa‘. In fact I can’t remember having read anything about Enki and Atlantis at all in the pre-enki material. I do remember something about the people from Selos, who played a crucial role in Atlaa. Here’s a part from what I would still call the pre-Enki period:Elena says that the Telosians were the leaders of this Atlaa-colony (13)

Elena says that the Telosians were the leaders of the Atlaa-colony (13)

“The Telosians are originally from Alpha Centauri, planet Selo. They were Selosi at the time. They had a big colony on earth, they were living in their big main colony what we named now Atlantis. They were naming it “Atla’a” and they were sharing it with different other races and cultures, but they were the main inhabitants and leaders of this this colony.” (13)

Perhaps Enki was the King of another part of Atlaa? Were the Anunnaki really one of those other races on Atlantis? If anyone can find any mention of that in the pre-Enki sources, please let me know.

The Katay (snapshot from (24), also at 23, p.304)

THE KATAY
In the first volume of Elena Danaan’s Encyclopedia Galactica (23), we can read a more elaborate description of the Katay, a Taal Colony that originated from the Vega System (25) that settled on the third planet in the Sirius A star system (p.305). Elena is working on an alphabetical ordering of many spacefaring nations in particular parts of our galaxy. It then regularly happens that certain species that were already part of her first disclosure book (11) reappear in the Encyclopedia, but often with some additional information.

Within the current context it is interesting to note that information regarding the Anakh empire was added to the description. We can now read: “The Katay have a well-established relationship with the Anakh empire, whose actual seat is located nearby, in the Sirius B (26) star system” (23, p.305)

Why wasn’t that information mentioned before, one might wonder. Is this an example of some kind of ‘enkification’ process, or are we simply being given information that was unknown or withheld before?

SOME REFLECTIONS
This is not an easy topic. Especially not in a disclosure community that is filled with people communicating in private groups, who see enemies everywhere. What I have tried to point out in this article is that I think it is useful to compare the intel before and after the arrival of Enki. In this current article I present a few of these differences (14). It is obvious that the narrative in the post-Enki period is far better for the Anunnaki. They are portrayed as the protectors (even after the fall of the Nebu they were the initial protectors of Orion (15)) of the people of Erra, even during the times of Atlantis, when the Galactic Federation of Worlds was already alive and kicking. They are even described as our allies against the Ciakahrr in a potential future galactic war (16).

So, what is happening here? Are we really seeing a new narrative unfolding that is no longer fully in line with the intel before Enki’s arrival? Is there some kind of enkification of her intel going on? It even makes me wonder about the relationship between the Galactic Federation of Worlds and the Anunnaki Empire. Who is really more powerful? Who is really in charge? Let me know your thoughts (17). In a Star Nation News update in december 2023 (21) we were even told that the Anunnaki (Anach) empire would have been built on the pillars of Peace and Diplomacy. How likely is that? (22)

FOOTNOTES
(1) A Conversation with Thor Han Eredyon on Colonization of Pleiades & Earth Liberation
(2) Making the Best of what Humanity has to Offer
(3) Anchoring a Timeline and JP’s Four Time Rooms
(4) On the Connection between Thor Han and Elena Danaan
(5) Asking uncomfortable questions is not something that is highly appreciated by many in the disclosure community. Asking questions is often regarded as a sign of disbelief or as a mode to attack people. I prefer to think that asking questions is the holy road towards truth; something to be embraced.
(6) In The Seeders (2022) you can read at page 22 how she met Enki in 2021 with words like ‘I am Father, I am back, I am Enki‘
(7) The Royal Quarters of the Anunnaki on the Nibiru Ship
(8) One possible reason might be that the name ‘Anunnaki’ has got a very bad ring to it, because of the numerous atrocities that have been committed by them. Changing the name to something new might also remove the darkness associated with the name Anunnaki. Anach, sounds a lot more friendly; almost like an euphemism for the Anunnaki. If you think of the suffix ‘ki’ which sometimes seem to mean ‘Earth’, like En-ki (leader of earth), the Anunnaki might be regarded as the ‘Anach’ of ‘ki’ perhaps?
(9) To Trust or not to Trust the Anunnaki?
(10) Extraterrestrial contacts – April 16/2020
(11) Danaan, E. (2020) A Gift from the Stars
(12) Getting acquainted with the Ahil
(13) Q&A -THE PILOT- Nov 10 / 2021 -4:30pm EST (at about 1h01′)
(14) I point out a number of other odd elements in the post-enki period which appear in Elena’s book Thes Seeders, like Enki’s account of our history. See Analysis of Enki’s Account on our History – Some Oddities
(15) The Aker and the Anunnaki
(16) Negumak vs Ciakahrr. At the bottom of that article you can find this dialogue between Elena and Ardaana (High Commander of the GFW in this sector)

“E: Will this great galactic war impact the Sol system?

A: it will impact the whole galaxy, but it will not last for long. It will mark the end of the Ciakahrr Empire, once and for all. Prince Ea was here, earlier, he assured us that the full power of the Anakh Empire will fight alongside ours. So you see, it will be more about a clearing than an actual war. It will be over quickly. The Empires of Chaos must be fought, this is the balance of the universe.”
(17) Telegram groups: General Notices and Updates, Galactic Anthropology Study Group, Alex Collier and Andromedans Study Group and the Galactic Anthropology Library There’s even a presence on Facebook and on Twitter: Galactic Anthropology on X
(18) Resources to learn English
(19) MARISSABIDILLA
(20) Deviant Art (vitazheltyakov)
(21) STAR NATION NEWS Ep 09 ~ Dec 18 2023
(22) The Anunnaki Empire built upon the Pillars of Peace and Diplomacy?
(23) Danaan, E. (2024) Encyclopedia Galactica, volume 1
(24) STAR NATION NEWS 63 ~ 03 02 2025
(25) Species Related to the Vega Star System in the Lyra Constellation
(26) Sirius B

An Interview with Robert Dean

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Someone in one of the Study Groups (1) advised me to take a look at a long (2 hours) interview with Robert Dean (2). While watching it I made all kinds of notes and links that you can find in the Telegram Library (1). After finishing it I thought the information was fascinating enough to gather it in a separate article. Of course I would recommend you to watch the interview yourself, but when you don’t have the time for it, you can get the main points from this article or an extended variant from the Library.

ROBERT OREL DEAN
Robert (or Bob) was born in 1929 and passed away almost 90 years later in 2018. He was a Command Sergeant Major in the US Army and after having served for 28 years he retired and started to share his information on UFO’s and extraterrestrial life from 1989 onwards (3).

THE INTERVIEW FROM 2012 WITH WALTER
On January 25, 2012 Robert was interviewed by Walter from Search4TruthReality (4) in Tucson, Arizona. I will deal with the topics that I thought were interesting, in the order that they appeared in the video.

A NEAR WAR IN 1961 AND THE ASSESSMENT REPORT
Robert Dean mentioned the appearance of metallic discs that were flying in formation over Europe. Both NATO and the Warsaw Pact (5) thought these were some kind of planes from their enemies in the Cold War. This would have almost led to a war between the two parties. Eventually they learned that it was not of human origin. It triggered the study that eventually resulted in the writing of the Assessment Report. Dean said that only 15 copies were printed of this highly classified (NATO Cosmic Clearance required) and he got to read it (6). Here Robert talks about this important report:

Robert Dean speaks about the Assessment Report (1964) on Alien Life

“because it literally concluded that we, on planet Earth, the human race, had had an intimate interrelationship with advanced non-human intelligence for centuries, if not for millenia….and the conclusion reached after the study was published, was that apparently these guys have been coming and going here from the beginning of our history. An no there was no threat involved, because if there had been the repeated demonstration of their incredibly advanced technology indicated that if they were malevolent or hostile, the game would have been over, a long, long time ago. (2, 34′)

The study, however didn’t conclude who they were, and why they were really here. Dr. Salla did an interview with Bob Dean in 2006, mainly focused on this report and the aftermath (7).

THE ALIEN BODIES FROM TIMMENDORFER STRAND IN 1963

Timmendorfer Strand – location of an alien plane crash in 1963? (9)

In the report, Robert read about a huge disc, the size of 30 meters (about 100 ft) that crashed in the Northern German village near the Baltic Sea, called Timmendorfer Strand.

A British engineer battalion (8) went inside and figured out how to take it apart and they encountered 12 small bodies, about 3,5-4 feet tall. The report contained an index that included autopsies of these beings, including photographs and analyses. The medical examiners were overwhelmed with what they discovered.

These beings were almost identical. They appeared like biological androids. There was no alimentary tract and they did not have any reproductive capabilities. He talks about there being a kind of tissue in their small toothless mouth which was probably used to ingest nutrients. Who could these beings have been? The Do-Hu perhaps? (10)

THE BROOKINGS REPORT
Robert Dean also mentioned another report, which is not classified and was written by the Brookings Institute in collaboration with NASA in 1960 (11). He mentioned it because one of the recommendations of the report would have been to withhold intelligent extraterrestrial life for the general public. I looked into a few sites, but could not find such claims. If anyone can find quotes from the report that actually say this, please let me know. For now I tend to agree with this (11):

In an email published by The Virtually Strange Network, entitled “Brookings Report Re-examined”, Keith Woodard writes that the Brookings Report:

…did raise the possibility of withholding information, but took no position on its advisability. ‘Questions one might wish to answer by such studies,’ intoned the report, ‘would include: how might such information, under what circumstances, be presented to or withheld from the public for what ends? What might be the role of the discovering scientists and other decision makers regarding release of the fact of discovery?’ Those two sentences comprise the report’s entire commentary on the subject of covering up the truth.

Ben Rich, former CEO of Lockheed Skunk Works (12)

ANTI-GRAVITY, SUPER-LUMINAL CAPABILITIES
He talks about a talk he had with Ben Rich, who had retired from his work as a CEO at Lockheed. This man told Robert that the U.S. would have everything you see in Star Trek. On his death bed he would have said that extraterrestrial visitors are real and that the US military travels to the stars (12).

Robert also mentioned someone else he had spoken to who had worked at Northrupp-Grumman, and he would have told him that the U.S. has anti-gravity and superluminal (faster than light) technology (2, 56′). He also referred to certain rules that would hold for the patent offices in the U.S. As soon as someone introduced an idea related to anti-gravity (22,23), superluminal light or free energy the employees would have to warn their superiors (13).

THE MOON
Dean also mentioned that we would have been told at the end of the Apollo 17 mission that we were not welcome on the Moon. When you listen to him you notice that the reason he gives is different from the reason that we were told by Myrah, the T-Ashkeru contact from Elena Danaan (14). Dean says that they didn’t want us there because we were too militaristic. Myrah says that we were simply chased off my malevolent Maytra, who were far from peaceful themselves. He also mentions the existence of a city on Mars, the size of Chicago, underground. Perhaps he is talking about Aries Prime (15,16).

WATCHING HISTORY IN A VERY VIVID WAY IN AN ET LIBRARY
For those who have read Radu Cinamar’s Forgotten Genesis (17) the following excerpt might remind you of that special pair of highly advanced glasses that he was given by the Inner Earth Apellos people (18).

Robert Dean talks about his visit to a miraculous Library on another planet (2)

Robert vividly describes how he was shown a battle of Alexander the Great from the 3rd century B.C., including even the smell of blood. His host told him that this battle was still continuing somewhere in space-time. This library show some similarities with one of the library books that Elena described from her visits to the Nibiru ship (24).

ROUNDING OFF
I could go on and on about this interview, but I don’t like long articles on this website. If you want to know more about the things he said, watch the complete interview or go to the summary thread in the Library (2). You can hear him talk about seeing extraterrestrial bartering activity in Mount Adams (19), joining classes on Earth with extraterrestrial teachers (20), Conscious Spaceships (21), a R&R (Rest and Relaxation) for extraterrestrials in Pine Gap, Australia and more about his own contacts which started when he was only 2,5 years old.

I hope you enjoyed this review of this fascininating interview from 2012. Let me know your thoughts in the comments or in one of the groups (1). Robert Dean did a great interview with Kerry Cassidy too (25).

FOOTNOTES
(1) Telegram groups: General Notices and Updates, The Galactic Anthropology Study Group, Alex Collier and Andromedans Study Group and the Galactic Anthropology Library. Follow this website on X (Twitter)
(2) Robert O. Dean – ET Contact
(3) Robert even has his own wikipedia page: Robert Dean (ufologist)
(4) Search4TruthReality – I couldn’t retrieve his family name, so I only of ‘Walter’ because Robert addressed him that way often during the interview.


(5) For those who were born in this century, you might not know what the Warsaw Pact was. It was the answer to the formation of NATO by the Soviets and their allied countries in Eastern Europe. See Warsaw Pact for more.
(6) The report was published in the summer of 1964: An Assessment: an Evaluation of a Possible Military Threat to Allied Forces
(7) Command Sergeant Major Robert Dean, Nato’s Secret UFO – Assessment & Setting the Record Straight An Interview with Michael E. Salla, PhD
(8) In those days (1963) Germany was divided into four zones. The alien craft landed in the British zone.
(9) Map taken from wikipedia
(10) Perhaps they are the Do-Hu (A Gift from the Stars, p.262-264), because they are part of the small Grays and they are described as having lost their reproductive abilities due to genetic alteration by others from the Orion Collective. If you have any other suggestions, let me know.
(11) The Brookings Report
(12) Lockheed CEO Ben Rich Declared On His Death Bed: Extraterrestrial UFO Are Real
(13) Below is a screenshot from the USPTO-Saws-memo (download here)


(14) Did Aliens (Maytra) Chase the Americans from the Moon?
(15) Aries Prime and Marsquakes
(16) Galactic Ultra-Sonic Showers
(17) Cinamar, R. (2020) Forgotten Genesis. Skybooks.
(18) Create your Own Holographic Akasha Set
(19) For more on bartering practices with and between extraterrestrials on Earth read A Cloaked Laser Tube From A Mountain Base to Hide Spaceship Traffic
(20) Melanie Charest talked about classes for children on spaceships – See Children’s Classes in a Spaceship
(21) Conscious Spaceships and Genetic or Soul Keys
(22) How to create Anti-gravity
(23) An Extraordinary Experince by Dave Rossi
(24) Four Kinds of Information Sources in a Nibiru Library
(25) Bob Dean – Original Interviews in all three parts

Making the Best of what Humanity has to Offer

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During the July 2023 interview with Dr. Salla (1), Thor Han (2) was very open about a number of people the Galactic Federation of Worlds have chosen to work with. This article gathers a few of his thoughts on them. It seems obvious that we are not a 5D-civilization yet, but that we have people who are able to do great things, even though they are still 3D-humans and have some flaws in their character. Nobody’s perfect and the Galactic Federation of Worlds has to accept that as a reality at this time in our history.

BILLIONAIRES, PUTIN AND TRUMP
In this interview, Thor Han did not mention the three billionaires that we have gotten to know for their alleged connection with the Jupiter accords (3). Het did mention the president of the Russian Federation, Vladimir Putin (4). He also talked about (president) Donald Trump when Dr. Salla asked Thor Han about his role.

Melania and Donald Trump (5)

Thor Han: “If you speak to your audience on your media, I do hope you will not attract troubles. We recognize Trump as an ally. We have always used him, worked with him. He is special in his ways. We do not agree with his way of living all the time. He is a human. But we helped him get all the power with the timeline war. We helped him. He has a very close ally, physically with him.

She is part of the Federation. She helped him on our behalf to secure the timeline. We needed him because he is not interested in personal power. He is not part of what you name the Deep State. Although he is a human with flaws, it was the best solution because he is not seeking any more personal political power. He wants the good for humanity despite his personal choice for his life. You understand, we do not support everything he has done regarding his life. But we have helped him get all the power because we needed someone like him.

General Glen David vanHerck
On January 7, 2023 Elena released a video in which she said that Thor Han would have had a visit in the Blue Ridge Mountains with a general who later turned out to be General Glen vanHerck (9). Almost 8 months later Thor Han leaves no doubt about the Federation’s contact with vanHerck. When Dr. Salla asked Thor Han about his thoughts regarding the seeming ‘struggle’ between vanHerck (NORAD and Northern Command) and Dickinson (Space Command), he answered:

Logo of Space Command and Northern Command (10)

Thor Han: “This is to me a good example. I haven’t meet Dickinson; I have met VanHerck. VanHerck is a very proud man, he likes to control everything. He is very good for his position. This is why he has been chosen. You need to understand, when these men arrive at such a responsibility, they are chosen for their skills of power, wanting power, wanting to control everything. They are despicable at keeping their positions. They are ready to do anything to keep their positions of power.

They forget about humility. They forget about their equality to other human beings, but this is why they are chosen. The empathy is very weak. I met VanHerck, he is a very proud man and very efficient in his work. This is why he was chosen. And I can understand struggles for power, but this is ridiculous; they should all work together. We tried to advice them, they do not listen. They need to work together. These two organizations are meant to work together. These human games should stop.

SOME FINAL THOUGHTS
The main reason for writing this article is the idea that the Galactic Federation of Worlds has chosen to work with people of Earth, even though they know, we all have our (personality) flaws. It’s not easy to find people in power who also act like fifth dimensional saints. I guess this goes for all of us, including the emissaries and the contactees. We all try to do the best we can, but we still are humans in 3D with all of its temptations and challenges. This must make working with people from Earth also a challenging adventure for our galactic supporters.

What do you think? Let me know in the comments below or in one of the Study Groups (11-14).

Putin gives Trump a football in Helsinki (6-8,15)

FOOTNOTES
(1) A Conversation with Thor Han Eredyon on Colonization of Pleiades & Earth Liberation
(2) On the Connection between Thor Han and Elena Danaan
(3) Elon Musk and Possible ET-links
(4) President Putin and the Far Sight Institute – I added parts of the Interview with Thor Han related to Putin at the bottom of this article. If you want to know more about the Russian Alien Race Book and how it connects to the information from Elena Danaan, see (17).
(5) Melania Trump reveals the 1 habit she wishes Donald Trump would give up
(6) Conn. Dems appalled, GOP mostly mute over Trump-Putin news conference – Also see a few Q-related articles on this website: (7,8)
(7) The Q-movement and the Andromedan Council
(8) On Q, the Anunnaki and Disclosure
(9) More Corroboration on the Meeting between Thor Han and the Earth Alliance on January 7, 2023 – This article contains link to the video by Elena Danaan and Dr. Salla’s article on this meeting.
(10) Lt. Generals Dickinson + VanHerck Up For U.S. Space Command + U.S. Northern Command Confirmations
(11)  Galactic Anthropology Library – I started this group for people who are not interested in all the group dynamics within the disclosure community.
(12) If you are interested in all those dynamics, however, you can go to the Elena Danaan and Disclosure Community Study Group which combines the study of the intel with the study of the fascinating dynamics within the disclosure community.
(13) The Alex Collier Study Group tries to stay closer to the Alex Collier material.
(14) Telegram group for updates – Galactic Anthropology
(15) In an interview with Sacha Stone on August 14, 2023 (16) Elena Danaan said that both Trump and Putin were on the same (‘white hat’) side.

Elena confirms that according to her sources both Donald Trump and Vladimir Putin are white hats

(16) CONVERSATION WITH SACHA STONE ~Tracing Humanity’s Journey to Enlightenment and Liberation ~ Aug 2023
(17) On the Link between the Russian Book of Alien Races and Elena Danaan’s A Gift from the Stars

Anchoring a Timeline and JP’s Four Time Rooms

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One of the goals of this website is to archive the disclosure information into readable articles, which can be used for future reference, and who are also understandable for people who are new to this material. I am glad to notice there is more interesting information being released the last couple of weeks. This post is about a ‘time device’ that JP, the military contact of Dr. Salla (1), witnessed in June 2023 (2). It also contains the perspective of Thor Han on this device (3).

FOUR DOORS – FOUR POINTS IN TIME
On June 23, 2023, JP had a mission in an undisclosed location. You can hear all about it at (2). Below is a short description by JP himself, on what he was shown (41 seconds):

JP describes the four rooms with dates on them (2)

He describes how he saw a man materialize in one of the rooms, the one with 2050 above the entrance. He was wearing different clothes. When he got out he was taken to a separate room where he was cleansed, and consequently given other clothes and then he entered the 1550s room (2).

The years above the rooms were 1550s – 1940 – 2050 and 2090. In one of the Study Groups we reflected upon the 1550s: what could have happened then that would be relevant enough to make a ‘time room’ for it? (4)

THOR HAN SPEAKS ABOUT THE TIME DEVICES
On July 24, 2023 we were all happily surprised by the release of an interview of almost an hour in which Dr. Salla was able to ask all kinds of questions to Thor Han (6), who spoke directly through Elena’s implant (3). One of the questions was about these devices that JP had spoken about. Here’s the relevant interaction related to this aspect:

A Mesh (13)

“Michael Salla: I have just released an update from my Army source JP who says that he went to a facility where there were four time travel devices. One to the year 2090, one to the year 2050, one to the year 1940 (14) and the other to the year 1550. Do you know anything about who is working with the military in developing and using those time travel devices and what is their objective?

Thor Han:  This is us. We are working with the Earth Alliance (7) and certain aspects of the military. Your contact JP is working with the good side and he is used to reveal the truth. These time devices, we have helped the military to develop that because the other side was developing also, Nebu (8,9) technology related to time travel. You know it has been a time war.

And we have helped our friends, our allies on Terra. They are key points in anchoring a timeline. You do not anchor a timeline just on one point but on a web of many points, like a mesh if you want. These dates, are dates in the past and in the future of this timeline, to make sure it is anchored and to make bridges, to create, “quantum” as you name it, links to anchor the timeline.

Things are going to change, and these particular points, they are points of weakness, they are bifurcations of time. Time, as you know, is not linear. It is not ephemereal or abstract;  time is something that has no value in the absolute. It is a web like a grid, if you will, and each point on the grid are bifurcations. We need to secure them.” (3)

SOME FURTHER REFERENCES
Two rooms were situated in the future. This reminded me of Elena Danaan’s looking glass-experiences of both 100 year (10) and 20 years (11) in the future. We have come across all kinds of examples of technological devices. You can find many of them in the article ‘To Record you Past Lives” (12).

The Battle of Nueremberg, 1561 (5)

FOOTNOTES
(1) Now Available – US Army Insider Missions – Book 8 in SSP Series
(2) JP Update – US Military working with Nordic ETs in Time Travel research on Space Arks
(3) A Conversation with Thor Han Eredyon on Colonization of Pleiades & Earth Liberation
(4) See the Alex Collier Study Group There was a funny event that took place in 1561, which was called the Battle of Nueremburg /Nürnberg which seemed to have involved extraterrestrial fighting in the skies of Germany. See Wikipedia for more.
(5) Taken from Pinterest
(6) On the Connection between Thor Han and Elena Danaan
(7) The Earth Alliance
(8) The Nebu
(9) And the Lights went out for the Nebu
(10) Visiting a Meton Mothership (video, September 11, 2021). You can also find her experience aboard the Meton ship described in The Seeders (pp. 530-549)
(11) CONTACT Ep. 19 ~ THE FUTURE 20 YEARS FROM NOW – with Haben of Meton~ Dec 16 2022
(12) A Device to Record your Past Lives – This post contains a list of new technology devices
(13) Wireless mesh networks: Everything you need to know.
(14) A reader from the Galactic Anthropology Study Group noticed a small error here. In the original video and text (2) JP and Dr. Salla spoke of 1940; in the question to Thor Han, he accidentally said 1945 (3). Not a big deal of course, but it can be confusing; that’s why I decided to correct it here.


2030 as a Sort of Deadline – Alex Collier

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In an interview with Sarge and Karen from July 18, 2023, Alex talked about a deadline of a sort that would be situated in the spring of 2030. He wasn’t really told any specifics, but it would obviously be something that could not be missed, and apparently this would have freaked out the global cabal, and it stimulated the other party to try and ‘wake up’ as many people as possible. Listen to his words himself (about one minute):

Alex on some Galactic Event that would happen in 2030 (1)

He talks about some ‘galactic event’. I prefer not to speculate on what this ‘event’ could be, and if it will happen at all. These kind of ‘predictions’ tend to create all kinds of often unwanted dynamics. I just wanted to share Alex’ perspective on this. He later on compares it to a ‘divine reset‘.

It did remind me of that plasma bubble that would still encapsulate our complete solar system. This would have been placed by the Galactic Federation of Worlds to protect us from the fifth density frequencies. Just to buy us some more time (2).

Looking through looking glasses (4)

Join the Alex Collier Study Group (3) if you want to reflect a bit more on all this.

FOOTNOTES
(1) AN ALL WORLD CONVERSATION WITH “ALEX COLLIER” AND DR. K (VERY SPECIAL) – Sarge has got his own telegram group which you can join at https://t.me/icons2022
(2) Our Solar System in a Protective Plasma Bubble
(3) Alex Collier Study Group
(4) Through the Looking Glass (Youtube)

Were Humans 5D until the Fall of Atlantis?

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This is the second article in which I focus on the perspective of Larry Fulmer, based upon his various off-world and inner-world contacts (1). The first article in this series was about the green skinned people (3). This article explores another intriguing element within this perspective, namely that we as human beings would have been in 5th density up until the Destruction of Atlantis, which would have lowered our frequency to a 3rd density one (4).

HUMANS BEING BEYOND THE REACH OF THE ARRIVAL OF THE ANUNNAKI
In the video excerpt below (5) you can hear Larry explain what he has been told about the arrival of the Anunnaki and their interaction with us. Some 450,000 years ago the Anunnaki arrived on our shores and they tried to conquer our world, but they miserably failed because they could not reach us, for we would have been in a 5th density frequency and they were only 3D/4D. There were no genetic mutations made by the Anunnaki then. This is obviously different than Enki’s account of our history (6) and what we have learned from the work of Zecharia Sitchen (7).

The genetic mutations could probably only take place after humanity on Earth was lowered to a third density frequency. You can find more about that in the interview (5). Let’s listen to Larry himself (3 minutes):

Larry Fulmer speaks about the arrival of the Anunnaki and 5D people at the time (5)

THE DROPPING OF THE ASTEROID(S) ON OUR PLANET
Larry says that the Anunnaki after some 438 thousand (10) years decided on a plan to wipe out most of humanity, in order to make sure that the remaining ones would eventually lose their higher vibration to come down to their level, probably making them available for genetic manipulation. They, with Enlil leading this evil initiative, got themselves one or more asteroids from the Asteroid belt and sent them on a journey to hit Earth. This would have destroyed the peaceful civilization of Atlantis some 12,000 years ago.

This element of the dropping of an asteroid on our planet that caused the destruction of Atlantis was also mentioned in Enki’s account of our history in Elena Danaan’s work (6, 8)

ON A COLLISION COURSE WITH ENKI’S ACCOUNT OF OUR HISTORY
You don’t need to be an exopolitical history expert to realize that this theory is not compatible with the historical account that was shared with Elena Danaan by Enki. I won’t go into depth about all the various elements, but I will name a few to stimulate some discussion, and if I have learned anything from the disclosure community, it is that they love to freely reflect and compare the information given by contactees.

The Destruction of Atlantis (15)

First there is the timing: Enki said that the Anunnaki arrived here 372,000 BC and that he soon after, added his genomes to the ‘blackheads’ that were walking on the face of the Earth (9, pp 494,495). In Larry’s account this mutating of genes only happened after the Fall into 3D after the destruction of Atlantis less than 12,000 years ago.

Then about the people that the Anunnaki encountered: they would have been beings that were in a higher density than the Anunnaki themselves. These don’t seem to be ‘primitive blackheads’. How could they have been this advanced, some even ascending into 6D, without Enki’s genetic expertise? Within Larry’s theory humanity would have lived on Earth for millions of years when the Anunnaki arrived. There is no mention at all of human civilizations on our planet in Enki’s account before their arrival (11).

Well, I will leave it at this for now. What are your thoughts on this? Would there be more sources confirming Larry’s account of our history? Would other sources confirm Enki’s account? How does it match with Lacerta’s account for instance (12)? Perhaps Elena should ask Arkelios’ perspective on all this (13)? Share your thoughts in the comments or in the various Study Groups (14).

FOOTNOTES
(1) I created a topic called ‘The Larry Fulmer Files‘ in the Galactic Anthropology Study Group in June 2023. You can read that thread there. Since then Larry has left the group and he removed a few items from that thread. There’s also another thread in which I analyze one of his talks with Hermes (2).

He has his own youtube channel and he started his own (telegram) group at LarryFulmerChat. I was part of that group a couple of days before I was booted by Larry. Despite that I still think that Larry’s material is interesting to study and compare with other sources. I take a neutral position to his work. I have learned that studying this material implies looking beyond the personalities with their funny ways. And for the record, I have got my own funny ways as well 🙂
(2) Exploring Larry Fulmer Videos – This thread is filled with lots of links to other articles on this website.
(3) The Green-skinned People from Earth
(4) This didn’t happen over night as Karen said in (5), but it took a few thousand years for the process of the lowering of our 5D to 3D to take place.
(5) INNER WORLD CONVERSATION WITH LARRY FULMER AND DR. K PART 1
(6) Enki’s account on the Fall of of Atlantis – From this post you can find links to others accounts related to the destruction of Atlantis.
(7) Sitchen, Z. (1976) The 12th Planet.
(8) “Only the final phase was brutal, with the culmination of the inner conflicts and the final strike in a growing warfare with the Ciakahrr, that resulted into the crash of an artificial meteor.” (9, p.508)

In Elena’s book, The Seeders (9), it is not specifically said who was behind this meteor, but Elena later added that it was Enlil. In Alex Collier’s understanding it were some ‘Pleiadean’ groups that were behind the dropping of this meteor (6).


(9) Danaan, E. (2022) The Seeders
(10) I am showing off my mathematical skills here. If the Anunnaki arrived here 450,000 years ago, and Atlantis was destroyed 12,000 years ago, they waited for 438,000 years.
(11) This structural omission of any civilization before the arrival of the Anunnaki is one of the elements that is recurrent in Enki’s account of our history. See Analysis of Enki’s Account on our History – Some Oddities
(12) Lacerta on the Seeding of Humanity by those from Aldebaran
(13) Arkelios Describes his Inner Earth World
(14) The Galactic Anthropology Library (Telegram) or join one of the Study Groups (Elena Danaan/ Alex Collier) or the group that notifies you of new articles: Galactic Anthropology
(15) Image taken from Unarium Wisdom


On Green-skinned People

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Within this field of disclosure there are many concepts and ideas that are way off for the majority of people living on our world today. Everything related to intelligent extraterrestrial life is often still brushed off as ‘food for wacko’s‘. During the last two years I have opened up to what I consider the reality of extraterrestrial life and I was willing to accept many elements as possibly real which might seem outlandish for many. But even within this vast new territory I came across certain ideas that I preferred to ignore, at least for the time being, for it was even too odd for me.

Deviant Art by Vanmak3D (5)

One of those concepts was the one introduced by the Andromedans from Alex Collier about human beings who would have had green skin before a terrible nuclear event took place more than four hundred thousands of years ago. This nuclear war would have changed the colors of our skins (1).

But last month, Larry Fulmer, a contactee, was told by one of his contacts from the Inner Earth, that indeed, the original human beings on Earth would have had green skin. This immediately makes that claim turn more valuable, for, why would two contactees share this claim? It was enough reason for me to gather these two sources into an article on this.

ALEX COLLIER ON THE ORIGINAL GREEN SKIN OF HUMANS
In his book ‘Defending Sacred Ground’ (3) from 1996, Alex Collier speaks about green skinned people in the context of a great war. Read along with what he said:

“In your linear time of 3rd density measurement, of 439,231 rotations ago [years], war on a grave scale occurred in your Solar System. This aggression occurred against those on your worlds that included not only you Terrans, but also those called Nibiru. This invasion of your systems by Orion was led by a queen named Suttee. This (war) was destructive on many levels [frequencies) of physicality.

“We will focus tonight on your Terran physical form…. The last grave conflict was very harmful to your physical form. Many weapons of destruction, many of atom-splitting (nuclear weapons) have been used. This is the reason for most of your Terran skin tones. We shall explain…. Nibiru won, but only a short battle, before they and other outposts were forced to leave (the solar system) because of genetic damage. Your original races were green-skinned.

Symbol for Radioactivity (6)

This we know, because of large copper traces in your Terran 22 blood type (refers to the composite of human genetics which comprise genetic codes from 22 humanoid species). Also, the pituitary and thyroid (glands) were fully functional (at that time). The genetic damage to these organs was caused by (the) radioactivity in (the) air and all things of contact (on all things in the environment).

The air was like this for a long time. ” It (the radioactivity in the environment) caused the genetic memory of these organs (genetic memory of full-use capacity) being closed and almost atrophied (caused the function of the organs to shut down and the organs to atrophy).

Your world experienced drastic changes in climate and massive magnetic fluctuations. Your different skin tone races are a result of an edema damage to your blood (changes in blood chemistry). It was (then) necessary for survival to create self-sufficient and contained environmental habitats, (both) above and below the surface. (3, p.62)”

There’s not much that I can add to this. One might expect that the shrinking of the pituitary and thyroid glands might have had a huge impact on our level of awareness too, even though the pineal gland was not specifically mentioned, here. What is interesting that Alex also mentions the creation of habitats below the surface.

LARRY FULMER AND THE GREEN SKINNED HUMANS FROM INNER EARTH
In June 2023 I got into contact with Larry Fulmer (7) and a few weeks after that he started to get into more active (most of the time not physical) communication with people from the Inner Earth. You can read all about it at his YouTube site and his telegram channel (7). Two of his contacts live or lived in the Inner Earth. They both had green skin when they were alive. Let’s listen to a fragment in which he describes Hermes, a 6D human from the Inner Earth (20s):

Larry Fulmer introduces Hermes, a green-skinned human from Inner Earth (9)

In a video interview from July 20, 2023 (10), we can hear Larry say that he lived a life as an original (green-skinned) human, which would allow him to contact them at this moment. Many of these original people would have gone underground some 2 million years ago after the destruction of Maldek. There was also radioactivity involved that would have changed the color of the skins of the people on the surface. I will get into that aspect in a future article. I would like to stick to the color ‘green here.

DAN WINTER ON GREEN AND RED BLOOD
While thinking about green skin I was reminded by something that Dan Winter said in one of his interviews with Elena Danaan (11). It probably has nothing to do with the green people from Inner Earth, and Dan Winter can get carried away in his enthusiasm too. I will leave you with his theory about green and red blood. Was Osiris indeed depicted as green in Egypt? (49s)

Dan Winter talks about green and red blood (11)

It would say it is interesting to hear Dan say that Enki expected green-skinned people, but was surprised to find people with red blood. I also remember having heard that the Eben that would have landed here in the 1950s would have had blood based on chlorophyl too (12). If you have got more info on this, don’t hesitate to comment below this article, contact me, or join the Galactic Anthropology Library (2).

THE MURDRAT FROM VATUUKAT
In Elena Danaan’s 2024 Encyclopedia Galactica (14) she also mentions a green humanoid species that used to live in the underground. Not on our planet, but on a planet called Vatuukat somewhere in the Auriga constellation (see 14, p.173). In that book she writes: “The Murdrat are indigenous human species of unknown origin, who appeared one day from the inner realms of the planet. The Murdrat are green skin, geen hair and golden eyes humanoids. They are much involved in the life and economy of the planet, working closely with the Vyn and the Taal. Murdrat have powerful psychic powers, use telepathy to manipulate other beings’ mind and some of them can even alter space-time reality” (14, p.173)

The Murdrat were introduced in Star Nation News, episode 60 in January 2025 (15)

THE MOREKAT FROM THE CANCER CONSTELLATION
A humanoid green-skinned species can also be found on the planet Luyu in the Leyka Ta System in the Cancer constellation. These people are called Morekat (14, p.264-265). Their green skin would be the result of the “…manganese and copper rich waters, atmosphere and base food source” (14, p.265). Elena presented the Morekat in a Star Nation News episode from April 2025 (16) . Here’s the relevant excerpt:

On the Morekat (16)

ON SKIN COLOR AND HEMOGLOBIN
On July 18, 2025, Elena Danaan posted something related to the color of the skin and the composition of the blood (17).

“Green skin color is quite a common occurrence in the universe through many cultures, and is due to sulfhemoglobin, a modified form of hemoglobin that contains sulfur. Contrarily to blue blood, also frequent, that is composed of a copper-based protein called hemocyanin. In both cases, skin shades can vary in intensity from pale to intense, regarding genetic markers.” (17)

THE BASHURIANS FROM THE CANIS MINOR CONSTELLATION
After finishing an article on the extragalactic genomes installed in the early Bashurians (18) I had to them to this page as well, because of their green skin color. This species from the HD 63935 star system that is locally known as the Hargocol system, live on a planet that they named after themselves, namely Bashuri. The Bashurians are known for their excellent skills in creating and distributing holographic entertainment programs. For more on them see (18) or read their entry in the first volume of Encyclopedia Galactica at pages 326-327.

FOOTNOTES
(1) What really happened 439 thousand years ago? Two Conflicting Accounts
(2) The Galactic Anthropology Library (Telegram) or join one of the Study Groups (Elena Danaan/ Alex Collier) or the group that notifies you of new articles: Galactic Anthropology
(3) Defending Sacred Ground – Below is a video in which Alex also talks about this. This excerpt is from a video that was recorded in november 1996. I posted it already in the context of the two conflicting accounts surrounding 439 thousand years ago (1) (almost 2 minutes)

Alex Collier talks about green-skinned people (4)

(4) Andromeda Council – Alex Collier 1996 – ( Part 1-2) – Deutsch subtitles (HQ). (starts from about 31′)
(5) Deviant Art
(6) Dreamstime
(7) I created a topic called ‘The Larry Fulmer Files‘ in the Elena Danaan Study Group in June 2023. You can read that thread here. Since then Larry has left the group and he removed a few items from this thread. There’s also another thread in which I analyze one of his talks with Hermes (8). He has a youtube channel and he started his own (telegram) group at LarryFulmerChat. . I was part of that group a couple of days before I was booted by Larry. Despite that I still think that Larry’s material is interesting to study and compare with other sources. I take a neutral position to his work. I have learned that studying this material implies looking beyond the personalities with their funny ways. And for the record, I have got my own funny ways as well 🙂
(8) Exploring Larry Fulmer Videos – This thread is filled with lots of links to other articles on this website. By the way, you can find another excerpt from the Larry Fulmer material at (13).
(9) Loqma Green skinned Original human
(10) INNER WORLD CONVERSATION WITH LARRY FULMER AND DR. K PART 1 (fragment lasts a minute and a half).

Larry and Karen speak to Sarge Sovereign on green-skinned people (10)

(11) THE NINE: Diving into the origins with Dan Winter ~ Feb 23 2022 (6pm EST) (see at about 1h04′)
(12) I wrote a piece on the Eben at Genetic Experiments and Cloning on Planet Serpo by the Peacful Eben
(13) How Marduk became the Ruler of Saturn
(14) Danaan, E. (2024) Encyclopedia Galactica part I
(15) STAR NATION NEWS 60 ~ 13 01 2025
(16) STAR NATION NEWS 73 ~ 28 04 2025
(17) Telegram Post Elena Danaan – Copy in GA Study Group
(18) Species with Multiple Extragalactic Genomes