We have all kinds of articles on this website. This current article falls in the category of dark stories. Fortunately we have relatively few of those here, but sometimes certain aspects cannot be ignored. This article is not for the faint of heart and definitely not for children. Tony Rodrigues has told us about his horrific experiences during his 20-year-and-back program (1-4). Mark Domizio had some horrible stories to tell as well (5-7). On August 7, 2023 Alex Collier (8) talked about something gruesome that he was shown a number of decades earlier by his Andromedan contacts Moraney and Vasais (9).
A Child in a state of Anxiety/Fear (15)
HUMANS AS A FOOD SOURCE Alex Collier said that he was ready to talk about this now in the light of the release of the movie ‘Sound of Freedom‘ (10) and the work by Mel Gibson (11), which both deal with child trafficking amongst others. He also mentioned Cathy O’Brien (12) Before I get to Alex and his revelations about the way certain reptilian species would have eaten people, mostly children, I want to first quote a relevant part from Megan’s Rose ‘Welcome to the Future‘, from november 2021 (13), because it was already well-known that certain species used humanity for ‘nourishment’. In this part Val Nek spoke about it:
“The Ciakahrr’s (14) main feeding grounds were underneath the Vatican in Rome. You see, the Ciakahrr’s, I am very sorry to say, consider humans as a food source and lust fro human blood. The more they eat, the stronger they become. They can shapeshift more easily, and they also become stronger in combat. Hence the reason why the Federation had to close the portal between two worlds.
So that no humans could be transported in and out, thus weakening their supply and weakening them in return. They are not able to think clearly when they are hungry, and they act irrationally and foolishly. Their conquest for blood has proven to be unsuccessful in recent months and has made it easier for the Federation to defeat them.” (13, p.68)
CREATING A*CHROME-RICH FOOD THROUGH TERRORIZING CHILDREN Below you can watch Alex describe how Reptilians (probably the Ciakahrr, but he did not name them specifically) terrorized children in order to create ‘food’ that was high on adrenochr*me (6, 16).
Alex Collier on the horrific practices of certain Reptilians towards human children (warning: not suitable for children!) (excerpt from 6)
In the above excerpt Alex talks about the Andromedan Holographic Camera (17). He described how these Reptilians terrified and tortured children endlessly, sometimes even using siblings who could watch the terror that was committed against their brother or sister. They would even – after terrifying them to near-death – eat them alive, their bodies filled with adren*chr*me.
He also described how certain Gray species (18) would smear the tops of their bodies with body parts and fluids of humans who were stored in certain vats. They would let their bodies absorb these fear-filled fluids and it worked as narcotics for them.
SOME FINAL REFLECTIONS I would advise you to listen to more of this interview (6). I am just back from a short holiday in France, and I remember sitting in a metro (subway) and I saw a mother with a daughter of about 4 years and I was reminded of these awful practices and I felt an extreme sadness coming over me. This is beyond horrific.
We can be very glad that these awful creatures have all been chased out of our solar system the last couple of years. Alex said that these terrible procedures, these feeding frenzies, would have happened for thousands of years….
A few days after having published this article I wrote another short one that deals with the practice of humans being farmed as cattle in underground tunnels (19).
FOOTNOTES (1) Age Regression by 20 Years (2) Rodrigues, T. (2021) Ceres Colony Cavalier (Amazon) (3) In Tony’s second book ‘Project Starmaker‘ (3) he describes how his 20-year-and-back were even extended with more than 10 years in another mission, in which he was inside the body of some other being. Here he describes what he saw when he looked into a mirror for the first time:
“I was not a human. I was a brownish-tan alien with three long fingers and a long thumb. I was skinny, with no hair, and had an interface port on the back of my neck, right at the base of my head. I had a skeletal structure, much like a human body. I was roughly five feet tall.” (3, p.44)
I enthusiastically jumped on the Elena Danaan train back in september 2021. I was highly impressed with her information from her first two books and all the accompanying Q&A-videos at the times. This month Dr. Salla had a chat (1,2,3) with Thor Han (4) through Elena Danaan’s implant and I again had this nagging feeling that something was a bit off, and again in connection with the Anunnaki. This post asks some uncomfortable questions (5) about differences in intel before and after the arrival of Enki on the scene.
What are the Differences (18)?
THE PRE- AND POST ENKI PERIOD IN ELENA’S INTEL I think it is safe to say that Elena Danaan moved from a period in which she only worked as an emissary for the GFW, to a period where she also became a spokesperson for Enki/Ea, who is not part of the Galactic Federation of World. You could say that she has adopted a new function on top of her GFW-emissary-work. I jokingly referred to this second job as being an Eamissary too.
Elena got to meet Enki in september 2021 (6) and his role in her messages has grown bigger and bigger during the months that followed that meeting. When you look at this situation from a distance you might consider it a bit odd: why would one woman be the representative of both the GFW and a royal member of the Anunnaki empire, called Enki? (7) Are both parties in complete agreement with each other? Is there room for a difference in perspective, and how to deal with such differences if you are – in a way – wearing two Emissary hats?
This might seem like nothing more than a rather useless philosophical question, but it becomes more relevant when more and more differences between the narrative before and after the arrival of Enki seem to surface in Elena’s intel. I used to discard those differences, but I couldn’t ignore them any longer. So, what is going on here?
The Pleiades – protected by the Anunnaki Empire? (19)
THE ANAKH PROTECTED THE PEOPLE IN THE PLEIADES Let’s look at this interview between Thor Han and Dr. Salla (1) to better understand what I am trying to say here.
“TH: Enlil was never focused on the Pleiades. His focus was on the Galactic Sovereignty regarding the Sol System. We were never in trouble with Enlil. The Anakh Empire protected us. We were far from what was happening on Terra. Although in the vicinity, we were not concerned by the events on Terra.
MS: When you say the Anakh Empire protected you, was it because they had superior technology or because they had superior magic or occult abilities?
TH: Because we were on their territory. It was like a sort of allegiance if you will.” (1)
There are a few things that are remarkable in the above fragment. First there is the use of the word ‘Anakh’. In the pre-Enki days no one talked about the Anakh. Why are the Anunnaki being rebranded to Anakh, when no one used that term before the arrival of Enki? These people couldn’t have changed their name overnight could they? (8) Another thing is that I cannot find anything about the Pleiades being in some kind of alliance with the Anunnaki in the pre-Enki sources. Also the idea that they would be ‘protected’ by the Anunnaki is nowhere to be found. Why is that?
ANUNNAKI WERE ENEMIES OF THE PEOPLE OF LYRA In the pre-Enki period Thor Han was way more critical towards the Anunnaki (9). In 2020 he said: “The Anunnaki are very strange people. We don’t have contact with them very much, they are not trustworthy people. I would say their ethics has very different levels than our ethics. (10).
In a ‘Gift from the Stars’ we can read: Anunnaki have been the source and spreading of great genetic biodiversity and racial confusion throughout this galaxy for these reasons. Great enemies of the Lyrans but as as well of the Ciakahrr Empire. Technologically advanced and well equipped in warfare, their name is also feared in this galactic sector…. (11, p.230)
Lyra (20)
Since the people on the Pleiades are also Lyrans, it seems odd that they received protection from those who they considered to be their great enemies in the pre-Enki period. Could this all be explained simply because the Enki-branch is the good branch of the Anunnaki, and they were there to protect the Pleiades?
PROTECTION ON ATLANTIS AS WELL? Not only were the people from Erra (12) under the protection of the ‘Anakh’ empire in their home world, but their colony was also protected by the Anunnnaki when they were in Atlantis. They even ‘reverred’ Enki as the king of Atlaa:
MS: Does Ea or Enki, does he… what can of role has he played with the Errahel historically?
TH: He protected us when we were on Terra. He always was curious about our society. We reverred him as king of Atlaa. Our colony was under his protection. We were in good terms. I wasn’t part of the Errahil, you understand, when I was in Atlaa. I wasn’t incarnated as an Errahel. I was incarnated as an Altean.
Again, in the pre-Enki sources I can’t find anything about the people of Erra being ‘protected by Enki, the King of Atlaa‘. In fact I can’t remember having read anything about Enki and Atlantis at all in the pre-enki material. I do remember something about the people from Selos, who played a crucial role in Atlaa. Here’s a part from what I would still call the pre-Enki period:Elena says that the Telosians were the leaders of this Atlaa-colony (13)
Elena says that the Telosians were the leaders of the Atlaa-colony (13)
“The Telosians are originally from Alpha Centauri, planet Selo. They were Selosi at the time. They had a big colony on earth, they were living in their big main colony what we named now Atlantis. They were naming it “Atla’a” and they were sharing it with different other races and cultures, but they were the main inhabitants and leaders of this this colony.” (13)
Perhaps Enki was the King of another part of Atlaa? Were the Anunnaki really one of those other races on Atlantis? If anyone can find any mention of that in the pre-Enki sources, please let me know.
SOME REFLECTIONS This is not an easy topic. Especially not in a disclosure community that is filled with people communicating in private groups, who see enemies everywhere. What I have tried to point out in this article is that I think it is useful to compare the intel before and after the arrival of Enki. In this current article I present a few of these differences (14). It is obvious that the narrative in the post-Enki period is far better for the Anunnaki. They are portrayed as the protectors (even after the fall of the Nebu they were the initial protectors of Orion (15)) of the people of Erra, even during the times of Atlantis, when the Galactic Federation of Worlds was already alive and kicking. They are even described as our allies against the Ciakahrr in a potential future galactic war (16).
So, what is happening here? Are we really seeing a new narrative unfolding that is no longer fully in line with the intel before Enki’s arrival? Is there some kind of enkification of her intel going on? It even makes me wonder about the relationship between the Galactic Federation of Worlds and the Anunnaki Empire. Who is really more powerful? Who is really in charge? Let me know your thoughts (17). In a Star Nation News update in december 2023 (21) we were even told that the Anunnaki (Anach) empire would have been built on the pillars of Peace and Diplomacy. How likely is that? (22)
Someone in one of the Study Groups (1) advised me to take a look at a long (2 hours) interview with Robert Dean (2). While watching it I made all kinds of notes and links that you can find in the Telegram Library (1). After finishing it I thought the information was fascinating enough to gather it in a separate article. Of course I would recommend you to watch the interview yourself, but when you don’t have the time for it, you can get the main points from this article or an extended variant from the Library.
ROBERT OREL DEAN Robert (or Bob) was born in 1929 and passed away almost 90 years later in 2018. He was a Command Sergeant Major in the US Army and after having served for 28 years he retired and started to share his information on UFO’s and extraterrestrial life from 1989 onwards (3).
THE INTERVIEW FROM 2012 WITH WALTER On January 25, 2012 Robert was interviewed by Walter from Search4TruthReality (4) in Tucson, Arizona. I will deal with the topics that I thought were interesting, in the order that they appeared in the video.
A NEAR WAR IN 1961 AND THE ASSESSMENT REPORT Robert Dean mentioned the appearance of metallic discs that were flying in formation over Europe. Both NATO and the Warsaw Pact (5) thought these were some kind of planes from their enemies in the Cold War. This would have almost led to a war between the two parties. Eventually they learned that it was not of human origin. It triggered the study that eventually resulted in the writing of the Assessment Report. Dean said that only 15 copies were printed of this highly classified (NATO Cosmic Clearance required) and he got to read it (6). Here Robert talks about this important report:
Robert Dean speaks about the Assessment Report (1964) on Alien Life
“because it literally concluded that we, on planet Earth, the human race, had had an intimate interrelationship with advanced non-human intelligence for centuries, if not for millenia….and the conclusion reached after the study was published, was that apparently these guys have been coming and going here from the beginning of our history. An no there was no threat involved, because if there had been the repeated demonstration of their incredibly advanced technology indicated that if they were malevolent or hostile, the game would have been over, a long, long time ago. (2, 34′)
The study, however didn’t conclude who they were, and why they were really here. Dr. Salla did an interview with Bob Dean in 2006, mainly focused on this report and the aftermath (7).
THE ALIEN BODIES FROM TIMMENDORFER STRAND IN 1963
Timmendorfer Strand – location of an alien plane crash in 1963? (9)
In the report, Robert read about a huge disc, the size of 30 meters (about 100 ft) that crashed in the Northern German village near the Baltic Sea, called Timmendorfer Strand.
A British engineer battalion (8) went inside and figured out how to take it apart and they encountered 12 small bodies, about 3,5-4 feet tall. The report contained an index that included autopsies of these beings, including photographs and analyses. The medical examiners were overwhelmed with what they discovered.
These beings were almost identical. They appeared like biological androids. There was no alimentary tract and they did not have any reproductive capabilities. He talks about there being a kind of tissue in their small toothless mouth which was probably used to ingest nutrients. Who could these beings have been? The Do-Hu perhaps? (10)
THE BROOKINGS REPORT Robert Dean also mentioned another report, which is not classified and was written by the Brookings Institute in collaboration with NASA in 1960 (11). He mentioned it because one of the recommendations of the report would have been to withhold intelligent extraterrestrial life for the general public. I looked into a few sites, but could not find such claims. If anyone can find quotes from the report that actually say this, please let me know. For now I tend to agree with this (11):
In an email published by The Virtually Strange Network, entitled “Brookings Report Re-examined”, Keith Woodard writes that the Brookings Report:
…did raise the possibility of withholding information, but took no position on its advisability. ‘Questions one might wish to answer by such studies,’ intoned the report, ‘would include: how might such information, under what circumstances, be presented to or withheld from the public for what ends? What might be the role of the discovering scientists and other decision makers regarding release of the fact of discovery?’ Those two sentences comprise the report’s entire commentary on the subject of covering up the truth.
Ben Rich, former CEO of Lockheed Skunk Works (12)
ANTI-GRAVITY, SUPER-LUMINAL CAPABILITIES He talks about a talk he had with Ben Rich, who had retired from his work as a CEO at Lockheed. This man told Robert that the U.S. would have everything you see in Star Trek. On his death bed he would have said that extraterrestrial visitors are real and that the US military travels to the stars (12).
Robert also mentioned someone else he had spoken to who had worked at Northrupp-Grumman, and he would have told him that the U.S. has anti-gravity and superluminal (faster than light) technology (2, 56′). He also referred to certain rules that would hold for the patent offices in the U.S. As soon as someone introduced an idea related to anti-gravity (22,23), superluminal light or free energy the employees would have to warn their superiors (13).
THE MOON Dean also mentioned that we would have been told at the end of the Apollo 17 mission that we were not welcome on the Moon. When you listen to him you notice that the reason he gives is different from the reason that we were told by Myrah, the T-Ashkeru contact from Elena Danaan (14). Dean says that they didn’t want us there because we were too militaristic. Myrah says that we were simply chased off my malevolent Maytra, who were far from peaceful themselves. He also mentions the existence of a city on Mars, the size of Chicago, underground. Perhaps he is talking about Aries Prime (15,16).
WATCHING HISTORY IN A VERY VIVID WAY IN AN ET LIBRARY For those who have read Radu Cinamar’s Forgotten Genesis (17) the following excerpt might remind you of that special pair of highly advanced glasses that he was given by the Inner Earth Apellos people (18).
Robert Dean talks about his visit to a miraculous Library on another planet (2)
Robert vividly describes how he was shown a battle of Alexander the Great from the 3rd century B.C., including even the smell of blood. His host told him that this battle was still continuing somewhere in space-time. This library show some similarities with one of the library books that Elena described from her visits to the Nibiru ship (24).
ROUNDING OFF I could go on and on about this interview, but I don’t like long articles on this website. If you want to know more about the things he said, watch the complete interview or go to the summary thread in the Library (2). You can hear him talk about seeing extraterrestrial bartering activity in Mount Adams (19), joining classes on Earth with extraterrestrial teachers (20), Conscious Spaceships (21), a R&R (Rest and Relaxation) for extraterrestrials in Pine Gap, Australia and more about his own contacts which started when he was only 2,5 years old.
I hope you enjoyed this review of this fascininating interview from 2012. Let me know your thoughts in the comments or in one of the groups (1). Robert Dean did a great interview with Kerry Cassidy too (25).
In September 2022 Elena Danaan launched her epic book ‘The Seeders‘ (1). We have spoken a lot about all kinds of elements from this book, and there will be a lot more to discuss in the future too, for it is a book filled with all kinds of though-provoking and -expanding ideas. I take the work of Elena Danaan very seriously and that’s why I started this project called Galactic Anthropology.
One of the most intriguing elements of this book is the account of our history that Elena was given by Enki, who prefers to be called Ea these days. I have studied this account and I want to present to you the first results. Please feel free to think about it in the Elena Danaan Study Group (2) or by adding your comments below this article.
SOME PRELIMINARY HURDLES It was far from easy to get to the point that I am able to write this article. I don’t want to dwell too long on these preliminary hurdles, but suffice is to say that the mere act of asking questions can trigger all kinds of dynamics which I have spoken of before (3). Elena once described this phenomenon very clearly when she said that I ‘have been seeking for flaws in her work, that I never found‘ (4). Of course I have never tried to find flaws in her work. My intention has always been to study her work, in a scientific way. It was sad to notice that asking questions and doing research was considered as a kind of attack, leading to all kinds of attempts to cancel me and people who participated in the Study Group (2). I sure hope that all that silly behavior will end soon, so that this friction can end.
THE STRONG BOND BETWEEN ELENA DANAAN AND EA But let’s get back to Ea/Enki. Enki and Elena met each other for the first time in September 2021 (1, p.22) and they seemed to have developed a strong tie together. Elena was obviously very impressed by the energy and the love that Ea naturally spread around him. Since then Elena has spent quite some time with Ea; she visited the Nibiru ship a couple of times and even went on a journey to Saturn with him (5).
Saturn (19)
He showed her their Anunnaki Vajra weapon (6). I can’t remember having heard one word of criticism from Elena aimed at Ea. Perhaps there was no reason for it, but seen from an objective point of view, it is not logical to expect that Elena will be very critical towards Ea in any way.
They simply seem to like each other a bit too much. Anyone questioning Ea’s intentions will probably not get a warm welcome from Elena.
THE SUGARCOATING EFFECT OF EXTRATERRESTRIAL SPECIES One might hope that extraterrestrial species are nothing but love, truth and light, but unfortunately that does not seem to be the case. We have spoken a lot about all kinds of malevolent species that have – up until recently – caused great havoc on our planet. And it seems that even the benevolent beings are not always necessarily telling the absolute truth, either because they don’t have it either, or because they are not sure, or because they might have the tendency to ‘sugar coat’ their own role in the various accounts of our history.
I recently did an article on this (7), and in June 2023 even Alex Collier mentioned this sugar-coating effect (8). Here is a paraphrase from one of the participants in the webinar from June 16, 2023:
He also, feels, as a Terran, that the best thing would be, if a star nation totally unrelated to any Terrans on earth, came in to assess the situation regarding our past, as there is a lot of history with not only the Annunaki, but other star nations as well with regard to DNA, history etc.
Candy with Sugar Coating (20)
He feels a race that has no direct relationship to us would be unbiased in any way in determining our true history, and that we need to know the full truth. He says that although he completely trusts the A’s, that because they have a genetic lineage with us, he still believes that someone who is completely unrelated to us and therefore, objective, should come forward to determine our true history and give an unbiased account. In that way, there would be no way that different accounts could be ‘sugar coated’ or ‘colored’ by those who have had interaction with us in the past. Those were his thoughts.” (9,10)
THE ANUNNAKI LINK Ea is part of the Anunnaki family, whether he likes it or not, although he sure seems to be the representative of the good branch of the family. I recently analyzed the work of Alex Collier on the Anunnaki – or the Nibiruans as the Andromedans prefer to call the group of Anunnaki that we got to know. The Enki-branch was given a place in the Andromeda Council, because a majority of the Council trusted Enki, even though the Andromedans and a Pleiadean group did not (11).
SUMMARY OF THE STATE OF AFFAIRS So, we are confronted with a situation in which an Anunnaki (or Anach) who would have played an important role in our history has given an Emissary of the Galactic Federation of Worlds (12) an account of our human history. The Emissary is too close to ask him any critical questions and any serious EA-related questions asked by people from Earth are simply ignored by Elena and her Crew.
I don’t know if the ‘sugar coating’-theory also applies to Enki, but a fact is that Enki is portrayed as a hero, the Father of Humanity who came to heal humanity from all the hardships that his cruel family members (like his half-brother, his own son, his cousin) have committed. He would also have attained the full backing of all the Anunnaki in our Galaxy.
SOME ODDITIES IN ENKI’S ACCOUNT OF OUR HISTORY AS WRITTEN IN THE SEEDERS The above can be considered as relatively troubling, but can we find things in Enki’s account of our history that also can be regarded as awkward? Would there be certain elements that seem odd? I think I have found a couple of these oddities which I will shortly share with you. Remember this is in no way an attack on Elena Danaan, for it wasn’t even Elena who provided the information (13).
THE ROLE OF THE KUR The Kur are mentioned in Elena Danaan’s first disclosure book (14,15). In that book she wrote about a species that would have been present during the times when the Anunnaki altered our genome:
Bird of Flame (21)
“Their peculair color is due to a golden liquid they bathe into, which expands their life-span” – “They were there as well, alongside the Anunnaki, at the time these latest were reigning upon Terra; the Kuri were directly involved with them in altering the Terran human genome” (14, p.236)
These gold-loving Kuri were apparently very close to the Anunnaki, and since they were even involved in altering of the Terran human genome, it would seem likely that Enki has heard of this species. But they were not mentioned at all in his account of our history.
THE WAR BETWEEN THE LAAN AND THE ANUNNAKI So I am not suggesting that Enki was lying about anything, but omitting certain important historical events that don’t portray the Anunnaki too well is a doubtful practice. Another example is the war between the Laan ancestors of Lyra with the Anunnaki which would have taken place long before the ‘alteration’ of our human genomes (16).
Myrah, Elena’s contact from the planet Nyan in the Sirius B system (24), spoke about this war:
“The third [Moon] has been destroyed in the wars between the Anunnaki and the Laan from the Lyra System. This one was destroyed and caused great damages on your planet. Great damages and floods and destruction of entire civilizations. It was absolutely terrible.” (16)
Elena Danaan talks about these wars as well in her ‘A Gift from the Stars’ (14,16). They are called ‘The Terran Wars’ there. Why weren’t these wars mentioned? Why do we get the impression that there were no evolved people on our planet at all when the Anunnaki arrived?
THE STRANGE ARRIVAL OF LYRAN REFUGEES IN OUR SOLARS SYSTEM ONLY 88,000 YEARS AGO Another odd element that struck me was the following. In the Seeders we get this very odd suggestion that the Lyran System was only ransacked by the Ciakahrr 88,000 years ago! And that some 4,000 years later some refugees of these Lyran wars arrived in our solar system (17)
“88,000 BC – The Ciakahrr Empire ransacked the Man System in the Lyra zone. The survivors, on board Arks carrying the archives and DNA bank of their worlds, fled in a widespread diaspora, in search for new worlds to establish colonies” (2, p. 500)
This is extremely weird. It would imply that the Orion Wars took place before the ancient Lyran Wars! Could this be another attempt to hide the presence of humanoids on our planet before the arrival of the Anunnaki, or why else would Enki have said a thing like this?
WHAT HAPPENED 439,000 YEARS AGO The last odd thing that I want to mention is that something seemed to have happened 439,000 years ago. Perhaps the two events were unrelated, but this period was mentioned in Enki’s account of our history, but also in the account of the Andromedans through Alex Collier. That what happened, however, was completely different!
Destructive war with ‘atom-splitting’ weapons (22)
Enki spoke about the first arrival of the Seeders after they had been away for some 19 million years (18). Alex, however talks about ‘an invasion by the Orion Group led by a Queen called Suti, which resulted in a destructive war with ‘atom-splitting’ weapons that caused great changes in our biology…
Nibiru was able to win one battle but was then forced to leave our solar system because of genetic damage. The original races were green skinned. We know this because of large copper traces in your Terran 22 blood types.‘ (18,23)
Why didn’t Enki mention this great cataclysmic event, and how could there have been Anunnaki already on our planet when Enki said that they only arrived 67,000 years later for the first time?
SOME FINAL THOUGHTS So, what to make out of all this? Three of the four oddities are about important omissions related to this theme that there were already advanced humanoids on our planet when the Anunnaki arrived. The other element is about not mentioning the role of the golden bird-like humanoids, the Kur. Why weren’t they mentioned? Could it be that Enki could not have played the role of ‘Father’ if there would have been all kinds of other humanoids already present on Earth before the arrival of Enki and his gruesome family? Of course I don’t know the answers.
Perhaps Elena can ask Enki about these matters? But, like Alex said, I would prefer to hear an account of our history out of the mouth from species that are not so deeply part of our history. Or at least accounts of others than Enki. He could indeed be the hero, but he is in a bad position to give us a neutral account of our past. What do the Ohorai have to say about our history? What is the account of the Errans? How do the Alteans describe our history? What is the pespective of the Laan?
On June 12, 2023 Dr. Greer gave a national press conference which you can see at youtube (1). Just like he did in 2001 with the Disclosure Project (2). A number of military men presented their testimony and I would like to pick out one that I found especially interesting because Jean-Charles Moyen also talked about that particular testimony (3).
A Black Ship (floating on water) (15)
JEAN-CHARLES MOYEN In a video interview from June 16, 2023 Jean-Charles Moyen told us that he had something important to tell. He reminded us of his odd experiences he had with Rebecca Rose (4,5). In an earlier article (4) we elaborately talked about the various mostly off-world situations in which he encountered Rebecca. In one of the situations – and you can look that up in (4) – I wrote:
“A few days later he is in a spaceship with Rebecca and she asked him if he would like to visit another ship that had just docked on their ship, the Solaris (6). This ship looked polymorphic, in the sense that it seemed to change shape. It was black and it looked organic (7,8). ‘Rebecca’ said that in order to enter that ship he had to move through a portal (9-12). They both did that and they entered a big room in that ship that was filled with pods. The pods had names on them, like B1, B2, B3….“
Let’s listen how Jean-Charles linked this experience with that black spaceship probably with the testimony of a whistleblower called Steen Digna Jr, which you can see a bit further down below (13).
Jean-Charles Moyen talks about the similarities between his experience and that of whistleblower Steven Digna Jr. (3)
He describes how the whistleblower touched the black spaceship and it was like it was alive, as if it was organic, which was the same detail that Jean-Charles had mentioned back in January 2023 (4,5).
PART OF TESTIMONY OF STEVEN DIGNA JR. To make this story complete I present the part of the testimony of Steven Digna jr. in which he talks about his encounter with a black spaceship that he said after touching it, that it felt ‘as if he was in contact with a living creature‘
Whistleblower Steven Digna Jr. (1)
SOME REFLECTIONS Dr. Green later on said that the ship that Digna described was one of ours, not extraterrestrial. In Steven Digna’s testimony he also talks about being lifted (together with his wife and their car) into another hovering aircraft and their were samples taken of him. After his testimony, Dr. Greer said that these ships were used to ‘abduct’ people too (14).
This begs the question. If this were indeed the same kind of ship that Jean-Charles Moyen saw docking on the Galactic Federation of Worlds (GFW) Mothership Excelsior (6), what would a ship that ‘abducted’ people and according to Jean-Charles’ experiences, had all kinds of clones aboard stored in pods (4). Why would such a ship board the Excelsior? I mean, does the Excelsior support cloning and abductions, or is there perhaps another reason for allowing this?
Perhaps these black ships had a different function after the regressives were cleared from our world? Is there perhaps a connection with the highly active bartering activity that JP described in one of those underground spaceports? What is going on there? Who are bartering? What is the role of the GFW? Are there still spaceships active from the Deep State or any other regressive faction?
Let’s just hope that because Steven Digna witnessed this in 2001, and perhaps Jean-Charles was in a 20-year-and-back program that also, just like Rebecca Rose’s program, this all happened many decades ago and is a thing from the past.
REBECCA ROSE’S RESPONSE I asked Rebecca Rose what she thought about all this, and she kindly and quickly responded with the following comment (16)
“Interesting, Joost!!! There are many ships that look and feel alive – this is quite common. The pods in question are for upliftment and healing of the physical form as well as journeying and general elevation. This is not the same as cloning in a dark program. I hope the clarification is helpful. Alsof, my memories of a polymorphic gal con ship are lighter pastel colors, shimmering – and yes, alive! That said, polymorphic ships can, by nature, change shape, size and color depending on mission, destination and environment“
(6) The Excelsior and Solar Warden (7) We have come across this phenomenon of spaceships that seem to portray organic characteristics before. Think of the ship of the Intergalactic Federation (probably Altean) for instance. Elena describes how the inner architecture of that ship looked organic. See: Moldavite Crystal Walls (8) This concept of a certain intelligence coupled to a spaceship was discussed in the article: Conscious Spaceships and Genetic or Soul Keys (9) Experiencers describe going through a Stargate (10) Portals, Stargates and Wormholes (11) Sometimes portals are truly valuable. The portal in the Orion Nebula M42 would have been such a portal. Read more about it at: The Orion Nebula and the Hive Mind (12) The Orion Wars (13) I’m not sure if Jean-Charles actually referred to the testimony of Steven Digna Jr. from (1), but it was the only account I could find in that free youtube video that dealt with a black spaceship that seemed to have organic features. If anyone can ask Jean-Charles Moyen to whom he was referring I would gladly hear it. He talks about a military base in which the black space ship was. In Digna’s description the ship was seen outside. (14) Monday, June 12, 2023! Dr. Greer’s Groundbreaking National Press Club Event! FREE to Watch! (15) Black Pearl Ship Wallpapers (16) Here’s a screenshot from Rebecca’s kind response (it would be great E.D. would be as cooperative):
Galactic Anthropology 