Do you know the names of your ancestors who lived 150 years ago? I guess most of us don’t. Let alone of those who lived a thousand years ago, or even further in the past during the ages of Atlantis or Lemuria, or during all those times when all kinds of extraterrestrial species from our Milky Nataru Way genetically interacted with us the last hundreds of thousands of years ago. This article goes even further into our past: dozens of millions of years ago when according to both the Andromedans of Alex Collier and Enki’s account of our history a great experiment was carried out by a group of seeding races, called the Pa-Taal. This article reflects upon and compares their accounts (16).

THE PA-TAAL
In the article that focuses on the close proximity between the Ciakahrr in the Draco Constellation and that of Humanity in Lyra (1) I already made the distinction between two different kinds of seedings of humanity. We have the seeding of humanity in the Lyra System (Kepler 62, (2)) and we have this experiment on our planet which kicked off some 65 million years ago, when the Seeders (the Pa-Taal) would have intervened on our planet by halting the boundless growth of reptilian species (3). The same group would have been responsible for both ‘creations’.

THE ORIGINAL PRIMATE FOUNDATION
Both Elena Danaan and Alex Collier talk about a primate being that would have been used by the Pa-Taal on Earth as a kind of genetic foundation on which humanity was ultimately ‘built’ (4). What do we know of this primate? And how do the accounts of Alex and Elena compare? Before we get into this, I would like to repeat something that was said by someone in the Elena Danaan Research Center (5) when we talked about issues relating to the comparisons between Alex Collier’s Andromedans and Elena’s sources.

He said that it only adds to the veracity of the accounts when they are not completely the same, since they are recorded and told by different species, who are likely to have a (slightly) different take on particular events in the past. It is up to us to put the right pieces of the puzzle together, and cast the rest away. This is of course no easy task in our current limited state of awareness, so we will probably need to be patient for quite a while before we can conclude anything with certainty.

But that doesn’t mean that we can’t do anything, for we can compare sources that we find relatively trustworthy, and I like to think that Alex Collier’s Andromedans and Elena Danaan’s sources are in this category, although we always need to be critical about everything, for it seems we have been fooled a lot in our history by all kinds of extraterrestrial groups.

ALEX AND THE DRACO CONNECTION
I’m no specialist in the material by Alex Collier (6), so I base myself on his lectures (7) and his book ‘Defending Sacred Ground’ (8). In that last book he writes the following about this primate creature:

“Apparently, the Alpha Draconians (9) created the primate race, which was first brought to Mars and then to Earth. The primate race was then tinkered with by many other different races – 21 other races – resulting in the primate race having been modified 22 times. This primate race eventually became Homo Sapien Sapiens. – who we are on a physical level. Yes, we used to have 12 strands of DNA. Ten strands were taken out by a group from Orion (10) in order to control us and hold us back.” (8)

Within this perspective we would have been built on a Reptilian genetic foundation, with 21 other races adding their genetics to it over time, eventually resulting in us, as we are right now. Alex said to Dr. Salla in a recent interview that the Anunnaki would have been the last to ‘tinker’ with our genetics (11).

ELENA DANAAN AND THE LEMUR CONNECTION
In Elena Danaan’s excellent book ‘The Seeders’ (12) we don’t hear anything about a draconian/Ciakahrr link. On pages 524 and 525 Elena describes how she was shown with the assistance of a technique by Oona (13), a world beyond our own galaxy. On that particular planet she got to meet a certain primate that resembled our Lemurs the most. She was told that it was this creature that formed the genetic foundation to which the Pa-Taal (or the Seeders) added their genomes.

THE TIMING OF THE FIRST INTERACTION WITH THE PRIMATE
As far as the timing is concerned, it seems that Enki’s account and the Andromedan account are not completely the same. In the Seeders (12) we can read: “From 65 million BC onward, on Earth, the Seeders began modifying original molecules present in the DNA of some indigenous primates, who would otherwise have never reached the level of development to become the human beings of today….The Pa-Taal modified specific links between carbon atoms in the DNA’s macro-molecules of these indigenous Earth Primates, boosting their genome by progressively injecting into them a range of different extraterrestrial DNA molecules. Eleven genetic input would be progressively added through time, in total through an extended period of time, which is the reason why the Seeders would regularly return to Earth.“

In March 1997, Alex Collier held a lecture in which he also talked about the genetic alterations on the primate race. He wrote the following on the timing:

“According to Morenae and Vissaeus, the first genetic melding between a human species and the primate race occurred 28,731,007 B.C. That’s how far back they began experimenting, and there were many prototypes.” (7, p.111)

What does this mean? If we try to combine these two accounts it would imply that the first human DNA was only added more than 28 million years ago, and the Pa-Taal did some other genetic changes to the primate that didn’t involve any human DNA in the period between 65 million and 28 million years ago.

In Enki’s account we can read: “…boosting their genome by progressively injecting into them a range of different extraterrestrial DNA molecules. Eleven genetic input would be progressively added through time“. If we would want to combine the two accounts that would mean that these genetic inputs were only added 37 million years after the dinosaur clean-up. How likely is that?

COMPARING THE TWO ACCOUNTS
Like I said before, we can’t be sure about much, so we have to be careful in comparing these accounts. Could that lovely furry Lemur have been created by the Ciakahrr, and moved to Earth, via Mars? Or was this primate a completely different creature? Or did the Pa-Taal take that Lemur from that beautiful outer-Nataru-planet that resembled Earth? Why did the Andromedans share this information with Alex, and why did Enki share his information with Elena? And what about that timing element? Did the Pa-Taal really wait 37 million years before they started to add the first human genome to the primate? Well, let me know your thoughts by either visiting the Study Center (5) or by commenting below. All I can say is that I would prefer Elena’s account 🙂

FOOTNOTES
(1) The Seeding of Humanity Right Next Door to the Draco’s
(2) Getting Acquainted with the Ahil
(3) Elena talks about this aspect in a video-excerpt at the bottom of Discovery of an Ancient Crystal Artefact Containing Info that is 65 million years Old
(4) Our Galactic and Intergalactic Genomes
(5) The Galactic Elena Danaan Research Center
(6) Elena Danaan and Alex Collier have a different way of spreading their information. Elena Danaan has written three amazing disclosure books and she has produced a lot of free youtube videos that present her disclosure information. This makes it quite easy to access her current information. This is different in the case of Alex Collier. His webinars are often secured behind a pay-wall which makes it complicated to study the contents, if only because it is hard to link to source-material when it is behind a pay-wall. Alex also didn’t write books that can be compared with Elena’s books. Let me be clear on this: I don’t have any judgment on the use of webinars by Alex Collier, because I think he really needs the income to survive. The consequence however is, that the updates, are not freely available for study purposes.

Elena Danaan used to share all of her intel for free, but since she introduced her webinars a division was created between people who paid for the webinars and those who didn’t. The last category could never know what exactly was shared within the walls of the webinars. The people who did take part in the webinars were not sure what to share with the public either, for it might be considered as ‘secret information’ that not everybody should know. My opinion is that this division is not constructive for an open disclosure movement, where everybody has access to the same information. See for more on this complicated and sensitive topic End Note 208 and Go to the Webinars for All the Details
(7) Alex Collier-Interview-Presentations transcripts 1994-2011
(8) Defending Sacred Ground
(9) The Ciakahrr
(10) This ‘Group from Orion’ are very likely the Anunnaki.
(11) See End Note 169 for a relevant excerpt from this interview
(12) Danaan, E. (2022) The Seeders
(13) The Intergalactic Confederation
(14) Facts and information about Ring-tailed Lemur ( Lemur catta )
(15) Ring Tailed Lemur – Pinterest
(16) Elena Danaan places this event at some 65 million years ago. I haven’t found any reference of time in Alex Collier’s account. If anyone can fill me in on this, please let me know.