Two Extraterrestrial Perspectives on Jesus Christ – Yeshua

( Два внеземных взгляда на Иисуса Христа — Иешуа )

In earlier articles we spent some time on the god from the Old Testament. We raised some doubts about the vengeful nature of that god (1), we wondered if you could consider is blasphemous to say that God was an alien (2), and of course there was this link with the Anunnaki half brothers Enki and Enlil, the latter probably responsible for most of the hardships that humanity has suffered the last couple of hundreds of thousands of years (3,4).

So, the various roles of the biblical god were dubious to say the least. According to Elena Danaan both Enki and Enlil were sometimes referenced in the bible as being god. Enki would have been the god who created Adam and Eve through genetic engineering of the then present primates (5), he would have tried to save the people from the flood, whereas Enlil would have been the one that would actually have created the floods (3).

Jesus with Thumbs Up

But what about the main player in the New Testament? What to say about Jesus Christ from an Extraterrestrial point of view? In this article I want to start off with this question by providing two perspectives: the one that we can found in the work of Elena Danaan and the one that is given by the Thiaoouba as they were encountered by the French contactee Michel Desmarquet

In the Seeders (7) Elena dedicates a short chapter to Jesus and his bloodline. I would advise to read that chapter to get a more detailed perspective. Elena argues that Jesus’ mother Mary would have been part of a bloodline that would go all the way back to Enki’s Adam.

She builds her argument on the Doctrina Jacobi (6) which was written in 634. She writes: “Some notable points in Mary’s lineage are that she was a descendant of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob…significantly Luke traces Mary’s lineage all the way back to Adam (verse 38)” (8)

As we have learned Enki would have created humanity out of the primate that contained the genomes of 11 star races from other galaxies (9) some 370,000 years ago. This account of Jesus’ bloodline implies that this bloodline managed to survive 368,000 years to finally flow through the veins of Jesus Christ (9)

On the way of the conception of Jesus, Elena shares a few thoughts too. Let’s read along:

Regardless of Mary’s specific lineage, that Jesus is a descendant of David and Judah is beyond doubt. My conclusion on that, is the suggestion that Mary, carrier of the royal Enki bloodline, was abducted in the aim of reinforcing the off-world genetic lineage via artificial fertilization. Would these elements alone, among many others, be the reason why the extraterrestrials themselves kept the true history of Earth hidden from Humanity for such a long time, until we are ready to hear it without losing our minds? ” (7, p.517)

In Enki’s account of our history and Elena Danaan’s analysis the Anunnaki and espcially Enki plays a pivotal role in the genetic characteristics of Jesus. Mary’s egg would have infertilized artificially by off world people. This couldn’t have been Enki since Enki had already left some 9,600 years earlier after Enlil flooded the whole place (3). This is another question that needs to be answered in the future: who added whose genes to Mary’s egg in this account of Jesus’ heritage?

I have come to admire the information that was given to another French contactee, namely Michel Desmarquet. In his book ‘The Thiaoouba Prophecy’ he describes how he was taken in a spaceship by people from a planet called Thiaoouba to their home world. I was inspired to write a few articles based on this perspective which seems to be partially at odds with Enki’s account of our history (11-13). It turns out that the Thiaoouba also have an interesting perspective on Jesus.

Pregnant Mary (15)

In the historical accounts of the Thiaoouba the Anunnaki are not mentioned at all. According to them the Asian and Black races came from a planet called Bakaratini some 1,3 million years ago (12) and another race colonized Mu about 250,000 years ago (13). When talking about Jesus they are clear as well: Jesus came from Thiaoouba.

Let’s hear about their account. Here’s Thao talking to Michel:

Our plan was to capture public imagination by sending a messenger of peace. The story of the birth of Jesus, as you know it, with the Virgin Mary as mother, is quite true. The appearance of an angel at the Annunciation is correct in every detail. We sent a spaceship and one of us appeared before the virgin, who was indeed a virgin, telling her she was going to become pregnant. The embryo was implanted in her while she was under hypnosis.” (14, p.140)

As you can see the bloodline of Mary seemed unimportant, since she was not artificially impregnated in the way that is described by Elena Danaan. A whole complete embryo is put into Mary’s womb, making Mary more like a surrogate mother, not having any direct genetic link with her son, Jesus.

According to the Thiaoouba, his mission was to impart a message of love and goodness – ‘love one another’ and also to enlighten the people in regard to the reincarnation of astral bodies and immortality. This was all distorted by priests in the time that followed and numerous disagreements led to the rise of the many sects which claim to follow the teachings of Christ. (14, p.145)

In order to retain complete control of their mission a being from Thiaoouba, called Aarioc, cast off his (hermaphrodite) body to enter into a human being, which was created by the Thiaoouba, which allowed him to fully hold on to all the knowledge and abilities from their home world, like resuscitating the dead and curing the blind and the deaf.

Well, what to think of all this? I guess we should ask Jesus himself to get the final answers on what really happened. Both accounts agree on the virgin birth of Jesus. They also both stress the importance of Jesus Christ in human history and the role of extraterrestrials in his birth. In Enki’s account the Anunnaki play an important role through their bloodline and through their artificial impregnation of Mary with unknown genomes (16).

This probably allowed Jesus to perform his miracles. In Thiaoouba’s account Jesus was able to do this because he was fully made by the Thiaoouba’s with all their qualities (except their hermaphrodite character). Both physically and with a Thiaoouba ‘soul’. We don’t get any specifics about the origin of the soul of Jesus in Elena’s account, at least not yet.

There sure are a lot of pieces of the puzzle still missing, but I’m confident that one day it will all be made clear to us. Let me know your thoughts on this.

(1) Some Doubts about the Enlil-Yahweh-vibe
(2) Is it Blasphemous to Say God is an Alien?
(3) Enki’s account on the Destruction of Atlantis
(4) Enlil would have faced justice in some interstellar trial: see Anu, Enlil, Enki and the Meeting with the Four Councils
(5) Trying to Understand Enki’s Genetic Template Grail
(6) The Teachings of Jacob
(7) Danaan, E. (2022) The Seeders – See the chapter The Royal Bloodlines – Genealogy of Yeshua (pp 515-519)
(8) Luke 3:38 (Bible Hub) On this website you can get all kinds of translations and versions of this verse. I could detect one version that actually talks about Jesus and his link to Adam. Below are a few of them:

American Standard Version
the son of Enos, the son of Seth, the son of Adam, the son of God.

Aramaic Bible in Plain English
Son of Enosh, son of Shayth, son of Adam, who was from God.

Contemporary English Version
Enosh, and Seth. The family of Jesus went all the way back to Adam and then to God.

Douay-Rheims Bible
Who was of Henos, who was of Seth, who was of Adam, who was of God.

English Revised Version
the son of Enos, the son of Seth, the son of Adam, the son of God.

(9) Our Intergalactic and Genetic Genomes
(10) As far as I understand it, Enki first hybridized human beings with Anunnaki genomes and the genomes of the primates that had those genomes of the Seeders hidden in them. This was done 372,000 years BC (see 6, 495), afterwards at about 360,000 BC he decided to actively add his own genome to the whole, creating the Adamic man. (see 6, 496). Am I correct in concluding that everyone that was born out of this adamic ‘product’ can be said to be part of the Enki bloodline? Or is there a more specific bloodline that Elena Danaan is referring to when she speaks of Enki’s bloodline? Or did Enlil kill off most of this bloodline?

For if humanity would mainly come from Enki’s ‘second experiment’ than most of humanity would be of Enki’s bloodline, wouldn’t it? And what did Enlil do to this ‘divine man’? He somehow managed to shake up the whole genetic household of these humans to make them a rather simple ‘2-stranded human’ that would mainly be used to work for and obey Enlil and his men. If the DNA is shaken up, does that imply that Enki’s bloodline is gone, or just mixed up?

If Enki says he is the “Father” of humanity wouldn’t this imply that we all carry his bloodline in a way? Thinking too much about this gives me a headache, so I’ll leave it at this. If you have anything to explain all this better, please comment below this article.

(11) Let’s Talk About Hermaphrodite Species from Outer Space
(12) On the Origin of the Asian People
(13) The Mu-Mystery – Exploring Lemuria
(14) Desmarquet, M. (1993) The Thiaoouba Prophecy. You can buy the paperback at amazon, or you can download the pdf. For the Chinese community I recommend the work of Samuel Chong
(15) The Gospel and the Virgin Birth
(16) Elena Danaan doesn’t specify by whom Mary would have been impregnated. Which Stellar race was this? It couldn’t have been the Anunnaki from Nibiru because Nibiru was in the hands of the Enlil faction, and Enki had left Earth right after the flood, some 9600 B.C.

On the Origin of the Asian People

Asian Peoples (4)

( Sur l’origine des Peuples Asiatiques )

While continuing my journey through the book ‘Thiaoouba‘ (1-3) I was triggered to consider the possibility that certain races neither originated on Earth, nor would have been genetically engineered by master geneticists, but would have simply moved to this planet themselves from other worlds.

And then I’m not talking about the 22 extraterrestrial races that were identified by Elena Danaan (5). How does this idea fit with that paradigm? How does this combine with information from other sources? Could the Asian people, or the ‘yellow race’ be one of those groups? Does it make sense? These are the topics that are touched upon in this article.

Just like Elena Danaan, Michel Desmarquet was physcially taken aboard a spaceship and was welcomed by friendly people from other worlds (2). These people however are not mentioned in the work of Danaan. They brought him to their world called Thiaoouba and he was told about important historical events that would have taken place on our planet.

Some 1,350,000 years ago people from another planet called Bakaratini (6) that is located in the Centaur Constellation (7) realized that their planet was cooling down, and that they had to search for another planet to live on. There were two different species, or races, living on that planet. During a period of 50 years they would have moved 3.6 million black people and 3.6 million yellow people to Earth which was uninhabited at the time. The black-skinned people colonized Australia (which was in that time still connected to the Asian continent) and the ‘yellow’/Asian people chose the territory of present day Myanmar (11). They established peaceful societies. To learn more about them I recommend reading chapter 3 of the book (1).

So, let’s see how this resonates with other sources. The first element I want to pay attention to is the timing of their arrival. In the historical account of Enki there is no mention of people living on Earth at around 1,35 million years ago (12). The Seeders would only return at around 439 thousand years ago (13), to do a few upgrades on their experiment (14), leading to what the Anunnaki called the black heads, the primate that they, the Anunnaki in their turn, used to upgrade to become human beings at about 370 thousand years ago. Well, you know the story. Ashayana Deane does mention the entry of a new root race on the planet 1,25 million years ago (15). There is no word about people from a planet in the Centaur constellation, however.

Various Ethnic Groups or Races – Image taken from Pinterest (20)

This idea that certain races would have been added to the surface of our planet is something that Patricia Cori also spoke of in her contacts from the Sirian High Council (16). In their account the black, red, yellow and white races would have been invited by the Sirian High Council to send their people from different planets, from various corners of the universe, to inhabit the Earth. The ultimate goal would have been to eventually create a unique stellar human being who would gradually and over time combine the characteristics of all these different kinds of people (and then came the Anunnaki who messed up this experiment).

Cori doesn’t mention people who came of their own accord, as it is described by Desmarquet.

One of the reasons why I seriously consider the validity of the Thiaoouba-material is that there is some logic to it, and it covers an area that is not yet satisfactorily covered within Enki’s account of our history, namely the differences between the races on Earth. If Enki made the Adam by combining the dormant genomes of the 11 seeder races (5,17) with his own Anunnaki genes, how does that explain the differences between the races? Would they have all changed so typically in 300,000 years? I haven’t come across anything about this aspect in Elena’s material.

So, there is some logic to the idea that people from other worlds with their own characteristics arrived on our planet. They colonized a part of the planet and established their societies. They mixed with the black people creating the Arab-looking people. All these Asian people might have had long-established civilizations at the time that the Anunnaki arrived and started doing their ‘thing’ in Sumeria. But what about the Seeders? They couldn’t have missed the Asians, could they?

It is tempting to just ignore everything that doesn’t resonate completely with the information from Elena Danaan, but that would mean that her material would become dogmatic, and that is of course the last thing that we would want. I don’t like to think of it as a belief system, but as a working hypothesis. I also want to keep an open mind to the experiences of other contactees, even when it doesn’t fit nicely into the current ‘paradigm’. I still believe that we will uncover the real truth someday. Perhaps an ark from the people of Bakaratini or the Thiaoouba might prove useful in this regard.

(1) Desmarquet, M. (1993) The Thiaoouba Prophecy. You can buy the paperback at amazon, or you can download the pdf. For the Chinese community I recommend the work of Samuel Chong
(2) Let’s Talk about Hermaphrodite Species from Outer Space (earlier article based on (1))
(3) On the Other Side of the Bermuda Triangle (earlier article based on (1))
(5) Our Galactic and Intergalactic Genomes
(6) It made me think about Gabriela Sabatini, the Argentina tennis player from the 1980-1990s. I don’t think she is a descendant from the Bakaratini’s though. Image taken from Gaucho News

Juegos Olimpicos de la Juventud Buenos Aires 2018 Tenis. Gabriela Sabatini. 14.10.2018 Foto Maxi Failla (6)

(7) We have met people from Alpha Centauri B and from Proxima Centauri already, namely the Selosi (8) and the Metoni (9,10)
(8) On the Selosi Alpha Centauri B
(9) Delving into the History of the Meton: Venus, Earth and Mars (and some dinosaurs)
(10) Having a Life Span of Two Thousand Years – The Metoni in the Proxima Centauri System
(11) In order to not make it more complex than it already is, I am focusing on the Asians in this article.
(12) Only the Nagai would have been present, see The Nagai, Igigi and the question of Enlil’s Mother
(13) What happened 439 thousand years ago?
(14) Various Version of Humanity brought to you by Our Creators
(15) Below is the relevant quote from Deane, A. (2002) Voyagers II (pdf). I’m not sure what to think of her material. It is very complex and extremely detailed. I can’t help but thinking that there must be some truth in it, somehow. That’s why I am not inclined to discard her material. She uses her own terminology that is characteristic of these Emerald Covenant CDT-plate translations:

The Fourth Root Race and its Cloister entered next, the Breanoua Cloister, about three million years ago, followed by the
Alanian Root Race 4 at 2,500,000 years ago. The Alanians became known as the Atlanians. The Fifth Root Race Aeirans and their Cloister Hibiru then entered, the Hibiru 1,500,000 and the Ayrians 1,275,000 years ago. The time period beginning with the Second Seeding 3,700,000 years ago and extending through the Third Seeding into the present time represents the Fourth World
of Native American legend.
” (Voyager II, p.29)

(16) The Sirian High Council – The description of the seeding of these races can be found in her book: Cori, P. (2002): No More Secrets, No More Lies: A Handbook to Starseed Awakening. See chapter 2: The Seeding of the Homo Sapiens. This information was channeled. To see an interview between Patricia Cori and Dr. Michael Salla, go to (18). After this interview Elena responded, which led to an article on Channeling and Discernment by Elena (19)
(17) Trying to Understand Enki’s Genetic Template Grail
(18) The Sirian Revelations: An Interview with Patricia Cori
(19) On Channeling and Discernment
(20) Pinterest Pin

An Extraordinary Experience by Dave Rossi

( Una experiencia extraordinaria de Dave Rossi (Esp))

In a very interesting interview between Dr. Michael Salla and Dave Rossi (1) many topics are discussed. In this article I will discuss an extraordinary experience that Dave Rossi has had with

During the interview Dave Rossi says that he had decided that he wanted to learn how to develop anti-gravity technology and that he immersed himself into this topic. He has a Youtube channel (2) and a Patreon platform called Generation Zed (3) and perhaps by talking, listening and reading about it for about a year something extraordinary happened in the spring of 2022.

At a certain point (4) he said that he had an experience – and he is still not sure if it was an actual physical experience, or perhaps an astral, or that it happened in a dream state – in which he was abducted but not in any malevolent way at all. He describes a fluid-like beautiful craft that he was taken to, and he saw a blue being that was significantly taller than an average human.

This being did something to the right side of his brain, which didn’t feel invasive or threatening in any way. The next thing he remembered was waking up the next day and he felt as if a switch was turned on. He started to develop a liking for chemistry, particle physics, electrical engineering, optics etc. These were topics that he had essentially failed in during high school, but now he suddenly was able to understand equations in highly sophisticated scientific papers, and he was even able to interpret equations in various ways. He could ‘feel’ the equations as blue visuals in his head.

He was able to highly advanced pattern analyses and pattern recognition. In the rest of the interview he talks about how he actually developed anti-gravity technology and how he was contacted in various ways by all kinds of scientists and government organizations. A very remarkable and inspiring story.

Ohorai (8)

Although Dave Rossi wasn’t sure what actually was the nature of his experience, I would like to play around a bit with this idea that actually met a blue being that helped him in suddenly becoming a kind of master of scientific equations. What kind of blue beings have we come across on this website so far? The first species that come to mind are the Ohorai, one of the three species from a planet that orbits a star that is locally known as Ohora, but that we call Arcturus (8,9).

I can’t find anything on the lengths of the Ohorai in the description in Elena Danaan’s A Gift from the Stars (10), but David Rousseau has described his meeting with blue beings from Arcturus and he said that they were quite tall indeed, almost 10 feet (8,11). These Ohorai might just have been the ones that Dave Rossi had met. Here’s another argument. In the interview Dave Rossi talks about learning how you could actually change matter (12,13). Do the Ohorai have any affinity with science and technology? Let’s read a part from A Gift from the Stars:

Arcturians Ohorai are known for their power of healing, transforming matter, as well as bending and manipulating light itself. They accomplish these things with their conscious mind and the ‘Ohorai Way’ is a spiritual practice remown through the galaxy as an art of the spirit” (10, p.95)

Other candidates are the Zenae from the Andromeda Constellation, whose male population in particular is said to be blue skinned (14). Alex Collier said that his prime contact, Moraney (15), is about 8 feet (2,4m) which is also quite tall, but not as tall as the Ohorai who would be about 3 meters in height.

When thinking about blue beings, the blue gods of India also come to mind. See the page on the Adari (16) for more on them. In an attempt to create some order in all these species I had made up this League of the Hairless (17). Perhaps it would be useful to have ‘a Blue League’ as well, even though baldness seems to popular among the blues too 🙂

If you have any other suggestions, add a comment below. Dave has said something quite interesting about Elena Danaan as well, but that is for another article.

(1) Introducing Anti-gravity & Quantum Energy technologies with a new understanding of old science
(2) Generation Zed Youtube. I saw that Dave actually has Dan Winter in his shows a couple of times (5) We know Dan Winter from a few interviews with Elena Danaan on topics like plasma fluids and the Nine (6).
(3) Generation Zed Patreon
(4) Dave Rossi describes his experience which led to an opening up to all kinds of scientific knowledge and understanding. All of a sudden he was able to play with mathematical equations easily. Watch his description of this here.

Dan Winter and Dave Rossi (5)

(5) Take for example the video called Dan & Dave’s DEEP-DIVE | Alchemy Of The NODE, Aura “LEAKAGE”, Super-Fluid AETHER & Toroidal Geometry or Jay Weidner, Dan W., Riel & Dave | Manifesting What YOU Want, Alchemy of TIME, Gaia TV & Much MORE
(6) A few of the interviews between Dan Winter and Elena Danaan: THE NINE: Diving into the origins with Dan Winter ~ Feb 23 2022 (6pm EST) , STARGATES AND PORTALS with DAN WINTER and DAN WINTER: THOTH, PYRAMIDS, SEEDER RACES AND MYSTERY OF THE NINE EXPLAINED BY SCIENCE ~ AUG-03-2022. They also talked about Enki and Thoth (7). The thing with Dan Winter is, at least that is my experience, is that he is so incredibly brilliant and fast that it is very hard to keep up with him. From what I have seen of Dave Rossi, he seems to be able to present things in a way that is a lot easier to understand.
(7) We have spoken about Thoth as well lately, since he seems to be the same one as Ningishzida. See Some Thoth Thoughts
(8) The Ohorai, Glaideal, Noo-Linn from Arcturus
(9) The Real Names of Various Stars – How they are called by the own People
(10) Danaan, E. (2020) A Gift from the Stars
(11) David Rousseau Website 1
(12) See the fragment from the timestamp that this links starts with: (from 1)
(13) Talking about changing matter or programmable matter. Elena has talked a bit about some future abilities that would lie in store for us, once we can finally move on to the next level. See Some New Human Abilities to look Forward to
(14) The Zenae from the Andromeda Constellation
(15) Meeting Moraney and Changing the Colors of the Eyes
(16) Where did the Blue Gods of India come from?
(17) The League of the Hairless

Let’s Talk about Hermaphrodite Species from Outer Space

(In Portuguese: Vamos falar sobre espécies hermafroditas do espaço sideral)

In an earlier article I introduced Michel Desmarquet who wrote about his experiences with a tall species from a planet called Thiaoouba (1,2). At first he thought they were all women, but it turned out that they were all hermaphrodites! This made me wonder about other species that were androgynous or hermaphrodite and I will present a few of them below. Enjoy.

Dogon Hermaphrodite Statue (5)

When Michel Desmarquet was taken aboard a spaceship by the people from Thiaoouba he was welcomed by Thao, a female-looking being who was to be his guide. In the article on The Other Side of the Bermuda Triangle (2) he described Thao as an attractive tall woman. During his trip aboard he noticed that there were nothing but females on that ship. This looked as if this planet that they were from was inhabited solely by amazon-like women. When he asked Thao about this peculiarity she took him apart in a separate room and explained it to him:

Once settled comfortably in a kind of armchair with Thao facing me, I watched, as her face became serious again. She started to speak. ‘Michel, there are no women aboard this spacecraft…’If she had told me that I wasn’t on a spaceship but rather, in the Australian desert, I would have more readily believed her. Seeing the expression of disbelief on my face, she added, ‘neither are there any men.’ At this, my confusion was absolute. ‘But,’ I faltered, ‘you are – what? Just robots?’

‘No, I think you misunderstand. In a word, Michel, we are hermaphrodites. You know, of course, what an hermaphrodite is?’ I nodded, quite dumbfounded, and then asked, ‘Is your whole planet inhabited only by hermaphrodites?’ – Yes.’ – ‘And yet your face and mannerisms are more feminine than masculine.’ – ‘Indeed, it might appear so, but believe me when I tell you that we are not women, but hermaphrodites. Our race has always been this way.’ – ‘I must confess, this is all very confusing. I’m going to find it difficult to think of you as ‘he’ rather than the ‘she’ I have done since I’ve been among you.’

‘You have nothing to imagine, my dear. We are simply what we are: human beings from another planet living in a world different from yours. I can understand you would like to define us as one sex or the other, for you think as an Earthling and a Frenchman. Perhaps, for once, you could make use of the neuter gender of English and think of us as ‘it’. I smiled at this suggestion but continued to feel disoriented. Only moments ago, I had believed myself to be among Amazons.”” (1, p.27)

Illustration by Elena Danaan (3, p.110)

Elena Danaan has mentioned a number of species that are hermaphrodites or androgynous (3). One of them are the Nommo who are species from the Sirius C system, which is locally known as Emerya (4). They are said to be the beings that had contact with the Mali Dogon. They are amphibian and androgynous.

While I was looking for hermaphrodites I came across statues by the Dogon which really looked a lot like the way the Nommo are depicted by Elena Danaan (6).

In a wonderful video from July 2021 Elena Danaan expands on the mating rites of various species across the universe (7,8). In the video excerpt below you can hear her describe the way the Egaroth are hermaphrodites. The Egaroth are founding fathers of the Council of Five.

They were present during the ‘trial’ of Enlil (9) and they seem to play an important part in Body-Soul Compatibility (10). Annax is an Egaroth and a very valuable friend of Elena Danaan (11). She even paid a visit to Annax’ home world Alnilam as you can read in her book The Seeders (12). For those who are unable to understand the English in the video, or do not want to watch the video, I refer to (13) where I added a transcript.

About the hermaphrodite Egaroth
Illustation of the Alcobata by Elena Danaan (3, p.242)

The Alcobata species have a rather unique way of reproducing. Although there are males and females they can also be hermaphrodites in the sense that they can impregnate themselves. This only seems to go for the males amongst them. When the males reproduce they active a certain hormone which allows them to produce offspring but only in the form of eggs. Most of these eggs produce males that are used in their armies since they are a quite aggressive race.

The funny thing is that they can also decide to be mammals. In that case they have sex the way we do resulting in the female that turns pregnant and thus carries a little alcobata baby in her womb. These children are often placed in societal and political roles since apparently they are not as aggressive as their oviparous born brothers.

The alcobata are mentioned in Elena Danaan’s A Gift from the Stars at pages 242-243 (3). On a Chinese site I saw a Chinese translation of the information from the book, accompanied by an image of a character from the Phantom Menace from Star Wars which looks a bit like these Alcobata (15).

Below you can hear Elena describe the hermaphrodite ways of the Alcobata in her own words:

Elena Danaan on the Alcobata

(1) Desmarquet, M. (1993) The Thiaoouba Prophecy. You can buy the paperback at amazon, or you can download the pdf. For the Chinese community I recommend the work of Samuel Chong
(2) On the Other Side of the Bermuda Triangle
(3) Danaan, E. (2020) A Gift from the Stars
(4) The Real Names of Various Stars – How they are called by their own People
(5) Bruno Mignot – African Primitive Art Gallery
(6) Les Dogons sont un peuple du Mali, en Afrique de l’Ouest.
(7) Q&A – Mating Rites from outer space
(8) Across the Universe by the Beatles
(9) Anu, Enlil and Enki and the Meeting with the Four Councils
(10) Body and Soul Compatibility
(11) Interstellar Contacts. When you scroll a bit down you can find an image of Annax.
(12) Alnilam is the middle star in the Orion Belt. In Danaan, E. (2022) The Seeders you can read about her visit to the world of the Egaroth in the chapter from pages 260 to 273.
(13) Below is the transcript from the video-excerpt taken from (7):

Statue by the Dogon (6). They have remarkable similarities with the Nommo as they are drawn by Elena Danaan, especially the characteristic nose

“The Egaroth are hermaphrodites like the Negumak (14). They are a race with a human mammal genetics. They can reach until the ninth density in consciousness. They’re hermaphrodites. They have two genders: male and female. But they can choose when they
come to birth, they are born neutral, and then choose a gender. I don’t know why and how, what motivates their choice, but I know that they need to be male and female to reproduce.

Annax has a partner and two kids. So the family cell is not like on earth. They make kids but then the kids are raised by the community, everybody raised the kids together. When they decide to embody a gender, Annax decided to embody the male gender, they are going to make love like humans, like mammals. As they are very evolved beings, they are going to do this reaching higher states of consciousness in a very tantric and sensual way.

Many of you could witness the love Annax radiates from his heart, from his person, from his being. So imagine but that’s his way of being. It’s no normal state, it just radiates love, sometimes so much, that you can take it’s. It’s so radiating love. That’s his normal state. Imagine when they are with the partner, they are in love and they share this love and they make love and this all explodes! I mean from our perspective on earth, I think we couldn’t stand the frequency of it, of two Egaroth making love. It’s like atomic love reaction.

And they are one of these races like the Ahel where the conception of an outspring cannot happen without this cosmic orgasm. It needs to happen, because when you bring down an incarnation a soul to a species, that is super high, they can go until nine, you need to tap very high to open the channel super high to the soul matrix. That’s why they need to do it like this. And if they don’t reach out to these cosmic levels of orgasm they cannot create the channel to allow a soul to come and incarnate into the seed, into the belly of the female. The Ahel do the same. It has nothing to do with species. I’m fascinated by the Egaroth of course, because I know one very well. And knowing his vibrance his energy I mean that must be quite amazing.”

(14) The Negumak and the Galactic Federation of Worlds
(15) 英仙座-阿尔科巴塔人(Alcobata)

On the Other Side of the Bermuda Triangle

Michel Desmarquet (3)

(De l’autre côté du Triangle des Bermudes)

It was Lisa (1) who directed me to a fascinating book written by Michel Desmarquet in 1993 (2). I think that Elena Danaan and Alex Collier have made it possible for more people to take books like this more seriously than ever before. I am only in the beginning of the book, but came across enough to think that this book might indeed be a true story. It is a good thing that we pay attention to other trustworthy sources to back up the amazing information that is being shared by Elena Danaan on a weekly basis. This current article is about Desmarquet’s short visit to a parallel world where people would live who would have passed through the Bermuda Triangle.

Michel Desmarquet was born in France (4) in 1931 and moved to Australia in 1971 where he was taken aboard a spaceship in 1987 and brought to a planet by the people of Thiaoouba. It took him three years to write his book and hardly anyone believed his story. I think the time has come to validate his story by linking it with other recent information.

Before we get into Desmarquet’s account I think it can be useful to name a few accounts of people who have had contact with beings from other planets (besides Elena and Alex and SSP-members). Recently I wrote about that secret mission to planet Serpo (10). There is the account of Elizabeth Klarer with the Meton (11) and don’t forget ‘Stefan Denaerde’ and his meeting with the Iarga (12).

Desmarquet’s book starts off with him meeting a fairly large woman about 2,90 meters (almost 10 feet)(13) who introduced herself as Thao coming from a planet called Thiaoouba. She was wearing the kind of one-piece-suit we have become accustomed to (14). Michel describes her as follows: “I have already mentioned her hair, which was long and silky, golden-blond in colour, which fell to her shoulders and framed a face that was perfectly oval in shape. She had a large, slightly protruding forehead. Her blue-mauve eyes and long curled lashes would have been the envy of many women on our planet. Her eyebrows curved upwards, similar to the wings of a seagull, adding a unique charm. Under her eyes, which sparkled and sometimes teased, was her nose, well-proportioned and slightly flat at the bottom, which accentuated a sensual mouth.” (2, p.22)

The first place Thao takes Michel Desmarquet is a parallel world and she says that this parallel world has a few funny characteristics, like that people who live on this planet only die by suicide or accident. There are men and women and animals who can easily live up to 30,000 to 50,000 (Earth) years. She says that time had stopped for him, in the sense that he could live there for twenty or fifty years and then return to Earth as if you had never left (2, p.7) (15).

Parallel Worlds (23)

We have had our fair share of parallel worlds on this website as well. The first parallel encounter was with the home world of the Anunnaki in a parallel world where the star system Immaru is situated (17). The Anunnaki could probably travel between their world and our universe using the Orion Nebula M42 Portal (18,19).

Another parallel world was visited by Elena Danaan when she was near Neptune. You can read all about her encounter with the Koldasii at a parallel Neptune in her book the Seeders (20) and at (21). When you want to know the difference between a dimension (or a parallel world) and a density see (22).

When Michel was in this parallel world with his extraterrestrial female Thao he was told that this world he was in was actually a place where people and objects ended up when they passed through the portal in the Bermuda Triangle. Let’s hear it in her own words, after Michel asks who all those people are (some even dressed in prehistorical clothes):


“Michel (M) ‘But why are they here and how did they come to be here? Where were they born?’

‘Thao (T) On Earth. . . they are all here by accident.’

‘(M): By accident? What do you mean?’

‘(T) It’s very simple. You have heard of the Bermuda Triangle?’ I nodded. ‘Well, quite simply, in this spot and in others less well known, this parallel universe becomes confused with your universe so that there exists between them a natural warp. ‘People, animals or even objects finding themselves in the immediate vicinity of a warp are literally sucked into it. Thus, you can have, for example, an entire fleet of boats disappear in several seconds. Sometimes a person, or persons, can pass back into your universe after several hours, several days or several years. More often, however, they never return.” (2, p.7)

She then goes on to explain that as soon as they do die their soul will be reintegrated in the (normal, terran) reincarnation cycle again. She calls this phenomenon of a portal from the Bermuda Triangle to that parallel world ‘one of the accidents of nature’, just like the existence of the human appendix. The people in that world do not need to drink or eat and they feel no pain.

Much has been written about the Bermuda triangle. I won’t go into that. On December 25, 2022 Dr. Michael Salla referred again to the Atlantic Ark that was found near the Bermuda Triangle in a beautiful video (24). The species of the Killimat-Arr are said to have a post in the Bermuda Triangle (25). Let’s hope for them that they didn’t lose too many of their people in that vortex to this parallel world.

(1) Lisa is a frequent visitor to this website who also adds valuable comments. She introduced this book The Thiaoouba Prophecy (2) to me in a comment on the article on Planets Shifting Orbits in our Solar System. She also was the first one to ever donate some money to this project to express her appreciation for this work. This has led to an upgrade of my account which allowed for the introduction of videos that could be embedded in the articles, which are not hosted on youtube but on the wordpress servers.
(2) Desmarquet, M. (1993) The Thiaoouba Prophecy. You can buy the paperback at amazon, or you can download the pdf.
(3) Image of Michel Desmarquet taken from
(4) There seems to be something about people from France within this field of study. There is of course Elena Danaan herself who is French, but we have also met Jean-Charles Moyen (5,7) David Rousseau (6) and Robert L. (7,8,9).
(5) The Excelsior and Solar Warden
(6) French SSP Insiders Speak Out
(7) French Contactee confirms Intergalactic Confederation is seeding human worlds
(8) Astropaleontology in Tibet: Hall of Records found under Mt. Kailasa
(9) On December 23, 2022, Elena Danaan posted a link to an interview with Robert L. from november 2022. You can find it at Conférence ROBERT.L dit RORO
(10) Genetic Experiments and Cloning on Planet Serpo by the Peaceful Eben
(11) On Meton Walls, Windows and Doors
(12) The Iarga and their Green Planet

The Iarga – Not mentioned in Elena’s Gift from the Stars (12)

(13) Do we have another giant at our hands here? Well, she doesn’t seem to be part of the Red Haired Noor-descendants Giants
(14) Smart Space Suits and Frequency Belts – Technology from the Galactic Federation of Worlds
(15) The people on their mission to Serpo (10) did age when they were on that other planet, but then again that planet was in the same dimension as ours. It also looks a bit like the 20-year-and-back programs that are mentioned by the SSP-members. They lived for 20 years in space (or in Tony Rodrigues’ case (16) also on Earth, in Seattle for instance) and then simply continued their lives on Earth at the time when they left. In those cases I don’t think they were part of some parallel world. How it does work? If anyone can explain, don’t hesitate to do so.
(16) Rodrigues, T. (2021) Ceres Colony Cavalier. Amazon Press.
(17) Nibiru, the Planet of the Anunnaki in the Immaru Star System
(18) The Orion Nebula and the Hive Mind. The Orion Nebula Portal was probably the main reason for the Orion Wars.
(19) Recently both Elena Danaan and Tony Rodrigues shared their experiences with being near or in a Nebula. See Watching a Nebula from Within
(20) Danaan, E. (2022) The Seeders. pp 220-228
(21) A Parallel Neptune and the Koldasii
(22) Elena Danaan article called Debunk
(23) Scientists Confirmed That Parallel Worlds Exist and Interact With Our World
(24) On december 25, 2022 Dr. Michael Salla launched a video with this Atlantic Ark as main topic: A Kuria Matte – Aztec Chant to activate Atlantic Space Ark
(25) The Killimat-Arr from Gamma Crux and their facility under the Bermuda Triangle

The Unknown Ancient Architects in Our Solar System

During an interview on December 19, 2022 (1) both Tony Rodrigues, Rebecca Rose and Elena Danaan had something to say about an ancient civilization that would have been present in our solar system even before the arrival of the Pa’Taal or Seeders on our planet. This article presents a video-fragment in which all three talk about their experiences on Ceres, Mars and Saturn respectively with some explanatory background information.

Ancient (fictional) mythical Species from the SF-Movie ‘The Fifth Element’ (1997) (2)

It was Dr. Michael Salla who first introduced Rebecca Rose in an interview on November 14, 2022 (3). This was followed by an interview with Elena Danaan and Rebecca on December 11, and finally to the abovementioned interview about a week later with Tony added to the whole (1).

The first interview led to three articles: one that dealt with the jump gates that were apparently used and initially by gifted children (5), one that talked about her time on the Ciakahrr planet in the Kuiper Belt (6) another one in which she elaborated on her time with the Mantids on Mars (7).

I was very happy to see a new face that shared her experiences in the secret space program. The more people that show up the stronger the case for the true existence of such a program, for those who still have doubts.

As was already said in the first interview with Dr. Michael Salla (3) Rebecca was impressed with the extremely advanced underground whereabouts of the Mantids that she had met during her missions on Mars (7). In the video below she again describes it. She also adds that she believed that it weren’t the Mantids that had made that place, but some older race that might be many million years old. She calls them the ‘Ancient Architects’. Listen not only to her, but also to Elena’s take on the existence of an ancient unknown race and Tony’s.

Rebecca, Elena and Tony talk about Unknown Ancient Species (1)

After Rebecca, Elena expanded on this topic and referred to her recent visit to Saturn in which she and Thor Han were given some kind of tour around Saturn by Enki, who prefers to be called Ea these days (8). The Anunnaki had apparently take over Saturn millenia ago and it was forbidden theory for everyone else which was confirmed by Thor Han from the Galactic Federation of Worlds. Chris O’Connor said that there was a space station that was run by some United Nations group (9). Enki said that the surface and the space to the first ring was the sole domain of the Anunnaki and not for the kindest kind of Anunnaki.

During this trip Elena was told that Enki’s son Marduk was made the ruler of Saturn long ago and that he even sided with the Nebu (10,11).

Luckily many things have changed recently with the return of Enki and the Intergalactic Confederation (12,13,14), which made it possible for Elena to safely have this tour around Saturn. In the above fragment Elena talks about a certain area in the atmosphere of Saturn where all kinds of old city ruins were hanging in the sky due to some anti-gravity characteristic of the material that was used. Enki told her that this were the remains of a civilization that was in the solar system even way before the Seeders ever arrived and that neither the Anunnaki nor the Intergalactic Confederation have any idea who they were!

Huge gates on Ceres Colony (2000 feet wide, 1000 feet high)
(screenshot from 1)

The final testimony on these unknown ancient beings was given by Tony. He said that during his time on the planet Ceres, that is located in the Asteroid Belt, he saw huge doors that were about 700 meters wide and about 350 meters high.

Tony Rodrigues was told that these enormous stone walls were millions of years old and they still worked and that they were used as airlock doors.

In the video Elena Danaan added some more drawings that were made by Tony Rodrigues that depict Ceres (at around 23′-24′). Ceres was a hot bed for the German Space Program that we have gotten to know as the the Dark Fleet (15) or the Nacht Waffen. The planet was liberated in 2021 (16). To learn more about all the things that Tony experienced during his time on Ceres read his impressive book (17).

Based on the testimonies of both Tony Rodrigues, Rebecca Rose and Elena Danaan it appears likely that there indeed was some ancient civilization that has been present in our solar system on at least planets like Mars, Saturn and Ceres. If they are even unknown to the Anunnaki and the Seeder Races that would mean that must have been here before the arrival of the Seeders which was about some 65 million years ago. Who were they? What did they look like? Have they been present on Earth as well? Perhaps we will get to know more about them some day. Who knows, they might have left an ark on Earth as well.

(1) REBECCA ROSE & TONY RODRIGUES – Corroborating Experience on Mars ~ Dec 19 2022
(3) 20 Years as a Cyborg Supersoldier on Mars & Kuiper Belt.
(4) THE TWO SIDES OF A WAR ~ Meet the real Martians with Rebecca Rose (Dec 11, 2022)
(5) Using Children to Operate Jump Gates
(6) A Draco Planet in the Kuiper Belt
(7) The Off-World Mantids
(9) The Interstellar Post on Saturn
(10) How Marduk became the Ruler of Saturn
(11) The Enlil Faction of the Anunnaki and the Saturn Agreement
(12) Enki’s Return and Activating Humanity’s 12 Stranded Adamic DNA Blueprint
(13) The Intergalactic Confederation
(14) Anu, Enlil and Enki and the Meeting with the Four Councils
(15) See Endnote 191 for more on Corey Good and the term Dark Fleet
(16) The Liberation of Ceres
(17) Rodrigues, T. (2021) Ceres Colony Cavalier. Amazon Press.

The Red Haired Giants from a World near Vega

A red haired woman (looking more attractive than the images of red haired giants I came across, 5)

I was going through a video by Elena Danaan in which she explained the history of our world, at least from the perspective of Enki (1), which is also covered in her seminal book The Seeders (2). I used parts of this video earlier to write the piece on a few tiny peculiarities (3). When she was at the stage that the Anunnaki entered our global scene, she said that although the Anunnaki were bigger than humans then, they weren’t really as big as the Red Haired Giants (4). Well, in these times of Giants I considered it worthwhile to pay some attention to these Red Haired Giants.

This website has multiple goals. One of them is to introduce people to our galactic kin. Another goal is to try to connect them with our history and current events. Since the topic of alien intelligent life is still quite controversial for most of humanity I always try to add many links to topics that have already been covered before, in order to assist people in getting used to this amazing realm of galactic anthropology.

It would be odd to start to talk about these red haired giants before mentioning all the giants that would have been recovered lately, some of them in the process of waking up. For those who have missed it, there would be a bearded sleeping giant below the surface of Florida (6) and there is word of a sleeping giant near Nippur in Iraq (7) and one in Slovenia (8). They would be bearded Anunnaki-hybrids. Ever since the arrival of Elena Danaan we learned that the Anunnaki actually are not bearded at all, but bald (9).

In the video-excerpt (4) Elena says that the Red Haired Giants are actually descendants from the Noor. So, who are the Noor? In Elena’s The Seeders (2) they are mentioned as the 15th race that contributed to the original primate ever since the beginning some 65 million years ago (10). The first 11 contributors were not from this galaxy, but from all kinds of galaxies, but the Noor are from this galaxy.

The Noor – Drawing by Elena Danaan from (18)

The Noor originated as all humanoids did in this galaxy from the Lyra constellation (11). This doesn’t mean that there weren’t any humanoids in other galaxies before. You just have to take a look at Oona from the Altea (12) that humanoids were very present indeed. Like most other humanoids in the Lyra constellation the Noor had to flee from the Ciakahrr (13) after the Lyran Wars (14). They ended up on all kinds of planets in various star systems, like Proxima Centauri, becoming the Meton (15) or on the planet Alkhorat that orbits Taygeta, a Pleiadean star.

When you take a look at the Noor from Meton or from Taygeta it is quite obvious that they are blonde, not red-haired, although they are indeed fairly tall (2,4 meter, or up to 8 feet). So, whatever happened to those Noori to become red haired?

The answer is given in A Gift from the Stars’:

A branch of descendants from the Noori, adapting to conditions of their new world near Vega, evolved to have red hair. This race of Noori also visited Terra, where they interbred and were remembered as the giant red-haired legendary people.” (18, p.190)

We have encountered the star system of Vega before when we talked about those people who we would later remember as the ‘blue gods from India‘. They are called the Adari and their dark (Taal) skin developed some blueish tints because of the presence of the blue Vega star. You might start to think that this star has some powerful influence on the biology of both the Taal and the Noori, although it is not said that the Noori colony actually is on a planet orbiting Vega; only that they are in the vicinity of it.

If you hear people talk about giants, you might ask yourself if they are referring to the bearder Anunnaki hybrids or the red-haired giants that are Noori who interbred with humans.

If you have any information to add, please do so in the comments below.

(1) Galactic History: Elena Danaan Discusses Anunnaki, ET Root Races, Atlantis and more
(2) Danaan, E. (2022) The Seeders
(3) A Few Tiny Peculiarities
(4) In the following excerpt from (1) Elena mentions the Red Haired Giants at the end and links them to the Noor.

Elena talks about the Anunnaki, the Black Heads and the mentions the Red Haired Giants/The Noor (from 1)

(5) I have been looking for a picture of red haired giants but couldn’t find any that I liked, so I opted for this picture which looked a lot better than those big, evil red-haired giants. I took the picture from Pinterest
(6) The Sleeping Bearded Giant – Ningishzida
(7) Two Separate Iraqi Developments – The Giant Arunna and the Moloki
(8) The Giant from Slovenia near Peca Mountain
(9) Two Biological Types of Anunnaki
(10) Our Intergalactic and Galactic Genomes
(11) Getting Acquainted with the Ahel
(12) You can find a few drawings of Oona at the page on the Pineal Portal and the Seat of Consciousness for instance
(13) The Ciakahrr
(14) What Came First: The Lyran or the Orion Wars?
(15) On december 16, 2022 Elena met Haben, a Meton man on his ship. Watch her describe that experience at CONTACT Ep. 19 ~ THE FUTURE 20 YEARS FROM NOW – with Haben of Meton. She has met this Meton captain before. See (16,17)
(16) On Meton Walls, Windows and Doors – On this page you can find the story of Elisabeth Klarer who married Haben’s Meton brother Akon.
(17) Visiting a Meton Mothership (video, September 11, 2021)
(18) Danaan, E. (2020) A Gift from the Stars (see page 190 for the Noor illustration)
(19) Where did the Blue Gods of India come from?

The Exodus from Maldek

In a video from december 10, 2022 both Elena Danaan and Chris O’Connor talk about Maldek, and once again Chris presents a perspective that seems at odds with the information that Elena has been bringing forward (2). I want to go into that and there is a link with the Ant People (5) that were seen by JP, the military contact of Dr. Michael Salla below the surface of Florida a few months ago.

The Asteroid Belt – Remnants of the Planet Maldek (9)

We have spoken about Maldek a few times before on this website. Maldek, the planet that was destroyed, forming the asteroid belt, would have harboured a colony of the Aldebaran Anunnaki (Janosians). They called their planet ‘Janos’. They left for the Aldebaran system after the cataclysm took place on Maldek (6). In a footnote on the page on the ‘League of the Hairless’ (7) I quoted the reason behind the destruction of the planet, as it was described in the Seeders. It is useful to repeat it here again:

72.000 BC – A war started on Maldek and some of the inhabitants fled to Earth, Mars and Venus, taking with them some of the ‘Yeti’populations. The conflict involved the Galactic Federation of Worlds and the Intergalactic Confederation on one side, and the Maytra and Nebu Orion Grays on the other side, after Nebu outposts were taken down in the solar system.

Ciakahrr and Nebu had outposts on Maldek and we need to remember that Maytra, Ciakahrr and Nebu are all part of the nefarious Alliance of the Six (the three others are the Zeta Reticuli, Kiily Tokurt and Solipsi Rai but these didn’t get involved in this particular conflict). The war ended in a nuclear disaster in which the planet Maldek was blown up. Everybody who was still on the planet was killed and this catastrophe also caused Mars to start losing its atmosphere” ((The Seeders, pp. 500-501), 8)

So much for the background. In the video below you can hear Elena Danaan add some new information, namely that the Ant People (5) would have lived both on Mars and Maldek. Let’s listen along:

Elena Danaan talks about the Ant People (probably from the Seeders’ root race of the Ashai), Maldek and Mars (1)

In the above video Elena says that the Ant People mainly moved to the Americas when they had their exodus from both Maldek and Mars. In the Seeders we can hear that many of the inhabitants also went to live on the continent of Lemuria, or Mu:

71.900 BC – The geography of the planet was different in this period of time. A large piece of land existed in the south Pacific Ocean, remembered as “Lemuria”. These territories, who were already a compound of different colonies, received the Martian refugees from the Nebu war in the Sol System and the cataclysmic explosion of planet Maldek.” (8, p.501)

After Elena talked about the Ant People from Maldek, Chris adds information that doesn’t seem to match with the story of the fight between the Intergalactic Confederation and the Galactic Federation of Worlds on the one side with the Maytrea and the Ciakahrr on the other side, leading to the nuclear annihilation of the planet. Chris talks about a ‘more mammalian based race who were with the Ant People. And I always knew that they were fighting amongst themselves, ending up, unfortunately, destroying their planet.’

I might interpret this falsely, but it sounds a lot like Chris is suggesting that the Ant People together with this Mammalian based species, destroyed their own planet, without any outside interference, no Nebu, no Ciakahrr and no Intergalactic Confederation or Galactic Federation of Worlds would have played a part.

Chris O’Connor on Maldek

At the end of this excerpt, Chris talks about the Sasquatch being the ones into which the Mammalian based species would have predominantly incarnated into. Elena does confirm the element of these Sasquatch coming from Maldek. When I looked around a bit on the internet to find out more about the Sasquatch I came across a trilogy from Sunbow, called ‘The Sasquatch Message to Humanity – conversations with Elder Kamooh‘ (11).

In the first book (11) you can find quite a lot of references to the Ant People and Maldek, although the stories don’t seem to match with what is said above. The book seems to imply that Maldek was destroyed by ‘the Elders’ in order to prevent the ‘lower lords’ from invading Earth again (12).

(2) We have seen this phenomenon before; think about Chris’ claim that Enlil’s mother would have been an Earth-based Reptilian (3), and that he would have served on a secret space program group from the United Nations in another density Saturn (4).
(3) The Nagai, Igigi and the Question of Enlil’s Mother
(4) The Interstellar Post on Saturn
(5) The Ant People
(6) The Story of the Aldebaran Anunnaki and Outpost 361
(7) The League of the Hairless – Grays and the Like
(8) Danaan, E. (2022) The Seeders
(9) Image from Fine Art America. We have come across other solar system related belts lately as well. This was in the context of the Ciakahrr planet in the Kuiper Belt (10). Ceres is also part of the Asteroid Belt: see The Liberation of Ceres
(10) A Draco Planet in the Kuiper Belt
(11) Sunbow (2016) The Sasquatch Message to Humanity
(12) Below is an excerpt from (11) from page 141. Maldek and Apollyon are one and the same planet.

This intervention aborted the attempt of the Archons to invade Earth,
but they still had large and fast growing populations on planet
Maldek or Apollyon, that were supplied with new forces through their
star gates.

The Star Elders knew that it was a matter of time before
the lower lords would reform a new army, likely more powerful, for a
new invasion. In order to save the solar system from this darker fate,
they had to eliminate the star gates and armies of fallen souls,
constantly building up in a larger threat.

They took a grave and rare decision in the annals of the universe: to
destroy a planet with life in order to save a solar system’s spiritual
consciousness. With technologies only known to them, the Star
Elders Council sacrificed the planet Apollyon, which exploded and
turned into the actual asteroid belt.

The Nagai, Igigi and the Question of Enlil’s Mother

In the video from November 25, 2022 in which Elena elaborates on the history of the Anunnaki (especially Marduk) related to the planet Saturn (1,2) she also shares some thoughts with Chris O’Connor & Dani Henderson about the differences between the appearance of Ea/Enki and his half brother Enlil. She had already given a description of Enlil after she had seen him in that trial before the Four Councils (3,4).

What follows is a remarkable novelty that Chris O’Connor introduced: he suggested that Enlil’s mother ‘was actually from Earth, from the original Reptilian Earthlings‘. Elena responded with talk about the Igigi and the Nagai. Before we delve deeper into this thesis, let’s first watch Elena talk about Enlil and how his mother must have been of the Reptilian kind and then the discussion that follows

Elena Danaan and Chris O’Connor talk about the Reptilian Mother of Enlil (1)

It is not easy to get your head around these Anunnaki and their history. In the beginning they would have been made out of a mix of the Eban (Grays) and the humanoid T-Ashkeru from Sirius B (5). You can read more about this birthing of the Anunnaki race at (6). How and when this exactly happened is unclear, but somehow Anu and his sons Enki and Enlil appeared. Of course they did not appear out of nowhere and I was able to find one geneaological tree of Anu’s parents and grandparents. I’m not sure about the source and the validity of it, but it might help in understanding where the Reptilian characteristics of Enlil come from.

One of the Genealogical trees of some important Anunnaki (7)

When we look at this family tree we can notice the striking absence of any Gray or T-Ashkeru. Perhaps Apsu was a Gray, or would he have been a T-Ashkeru? Or would all this mixing between these two races have occurred earlier? Well, anyway. There is this ‘Dragon Queen’ Tiamat at the root of this family tree, and we can see that Enki’s mother is called ‘Antu’ and that Enlil’s mother carries the logical name ‘Ki’ (to make things easier…). So would those Reptilian genes come from Mother Ki? Perhaps Elena can ask Ea to provide some clarification. I mean, he must know whether his aunt is reptilian or carries reptilian genomes (8).

So after all this we can get back to Chris O’Connor’s remark that Enlil’s mother (who we now know as Ki) would actually come from Earth! How logical is this? Chris backs up this extraordinary claim by saying that there the earliest inhabitants of Earth were Reptilians, which is confirmed by Elena in her book the Seeders. These earliest inhabitants were the Nagai. Elena nicely described their arrival in a video from November 16 (9). This would have happened some 200 million years ago (10)

Elena Danaan and the Arrival of the first inhabitants of Earth: the Nagai (9)

Is Chris perhaps talking about these Reptilian guys that would have mainly fled underground after the ‘cleaning up’ of the Seeders (11). Would one of these have somehow met Anu to create Enlil? But why on Earth (mind the pun) would Anu come all the way to Earth to pick up a Naga-woman to produce off-spring with her? And didn’t the Anunnaki only appear on Earth for the first time 372,000 years ago on their famous starship Nibiru with Enlil already born-and-well onboard? (12)

In the talk between Elena Danaan and Chris O’Connor Elena introduces the Igigi. We have recently talked about these Anunnaki-workers at the page on the chronology of the Anunnaki (13) and they don’t seem to be the kind of people Anu would marry with either, I guess. Here’s a quote from the Seeders:

“The Igigi are a sub-class of our kind. They rebelled and were dealt with. Some escaped to the undergrounds of Terra. But you see, my half-brother was concerned with the debit of production. So he made this decision although I was at first not enthusiastic about it. It was decided that we would study the genes of the early humans, the Black Heads, for the purpose of improving their capacities.” (The Seeders (10), p.478)

Even though I think Chris O’Connor is a very sympathetic man I doubt his claim that Enlil’s mother would stem from a Reptilian from Earth. If the Anunnaki arrived here on Earth only 372,000 BC (with Enki onboard), when would Anu have had time to ‘date’ this Terran Reptilian woman? It also seems very unlikely that he would have tried anything with the Anunnaki sub-class of the Igigi.

But perhaps Anu had a secret meeting that no one knows about? Who can tell? Where did Chris get this information from? The question of the Reptilian-origin of Enlil’s mother still remains enigmatic. If we would call her Ki, where did Ki come from? Alpha Draconis? And what about Tiamat, the Dragon Queen? Perhaps Enlil just happened to inherit a lot of her genomes?

Any help to solve this intriguing puzzle is welcome as always.

(2) How Marduk became the Ruler of Saturn and The Enlil Faction of the Anunnaki and the Saturn Agreement with the Orion Grays
(3) The Council of the Shining Ones
(4) Anu, Enlil and Enki and the Meeting with the Four Councils
(5) For those who have missed it, the complete star system of Sirius B would have cleared of those Grays, the Nebu because of frequency discoveries made during the clearing of our solar system. Read/Listen all about it in an excellent article by Elena herself at: Collapse of the Dominion
(6) The Anunnaki and the Sirius Connection – Danaan & Cinamar
(7) Family Tree of EN-KI and EN-LIL
(8) Perhaps this reptilian genetic inclination led Enlil to seal this pact with the Reptilian Ciakahrr to produce the Enlil Lineage?
(9) Galactic History: Elena Danaan Discusses Anunnaki, ET Root Races, Atlantis and more – Video November 16, 2022
(10) Danaan, E. (2022) The Seeders – see page 491
(11) Did a Fusion Bomb cause the Extinction of the Dinosaurs some 65 million years ago?
(12) The Planet Ashtari and Spaceship Nibiru
(13) The Chronology of the Era of the Anunnaki

On Hoova, Hoovids and Hebrews

Last week two people mentioned the book ‘The Only Planet of Choice’ (1) in connection with the Hoova and the Anunnaki (2,3). This page starts exploring the possible links between the Hoova and the Hoovid and the Hebrew people. I would recommend everyone to think along and see what we can discover together.

The Hoovid (Drawing by Elena Danaan, 6, p.99)

Dr. Michael Salla (4) and Elena Danaan have spoken about Phyllis Schlemmer’s, The Only Planet of Choice, when referring to a group called the Nine, whom Elena had the pleasure to meet (5). The Nine would have spoken through their spokesperson ‘Tom’ to various people, amongst them Gene Roddenberry. In that particular book the Nine talk about 24 Seeder Races and they name a few of them, like the Altea, the Hoova, the Aragun and the Ashai.

In September 2022 Elena Danaan published her book ‘The Seeders’ (6) and for the first time in human history (well, as far as I know of, that is) she portrayed the 24 members of the P’Tal, of whom 11 would have directly contributed their genomes to humanity (7). Fortunately the four seeder races mentioned in Schlemmer’s work seem to match the ones given by Elena Danaan. We have come to meet the Altea, with Oona as the main representative (8,10). Then there are the insectoid Ashai, the reptilian-based Arag’un and the humanoid Hoovids (see drawing).

13 species that are part of the 24 Seeder races did not contribute anything of themselves to our genomes. We did end up with 24 seeder races, but the additional 13 (or more) were from our own galaxy (7). I’m not sure to which 24 seeder races the Nine in the Only Planet of Choice are referring.

Based on the similarities between their names, their descriptions, it would seem likely that the Hoova in ‘The Only Planet of Choice‘ are the same race of Intergalactic Seeders as the Hoovids in Elena’s work, especially when their home world is called ‘Hoova’. The word ‘Hoovid’ is also often mentioned in Schlemmer’s work. But what about the rest? How do the descriptions of the Hoova and the Hoovid match?

Elena Danaan has not said a lot about the Hoovid. In her book she writes that their home world is Galaxy NGC 6702 which is visible through the Lyra constellation. Their star system is called Hoova and their culture is widely spread in that particular galaxy. They appear as smaller, darker skinned with dark hair, and they would have a life span of 500,000 to 1,500,000 years (9). And there would be three polarities within their species. Their communication can be both vocal as telepathic and they would have a colony in Inner Earth (6, p.98)

Here are a few quotes from the Only Planet of Choice that link the Hoova to the Hebrews.

“There are other civilisations – and there are amongst you incarnate souls from those civilisations who have come to help Planet Earth. One of these civilisations, Hoova, was the civilisation that originally seeded Planet Earth, as did some of the others, but Hoova re-seeded Planet Earth on three occasions. Hoova is the civilisation from which the Hebrews derive: hence the importance of the Hebrews. Hoova is the civilisation that brought forth the Nazarene.” (1, p.24)

“A Hoovid would live approximately one million of your years. The civilization of Hoova is the one that brought forth the nation of the Hebrews. They came to Planet Earth for this in the time of Sumer (whence Abraham came), and at the time when it is said in your books about ‘the sons of the gods merging with the daughters of the Earth’ and they came one other time also. As they were the one civilisation that had sustained energy and were determined to survive, they elected to play a central historical role on Planet Earth their descendants represent a microcosm on Earth.” (1, p.36)

“Tom: It is in that realm. It is two polarities which exactly overlap and overlay, and each charges the other. It is ‘as above, so below’ as with the emblem of Hoova – the six-pointed star, do you understand?” (1, p. 42)

“With great love Hoova of the Nazarene comes to bring love to the planet Earth. They will set down a system to begin, to teach humans what they must do for themselves to help Planet Earth and the souls that are trapped. They will explain the systems of the Universe.” (1, p.49)

How does all this fit in with the account of our history as it was presented by Enki in ‘The Seeders’? If I would try to fit in the above information it would mean that certain seeders were a lot more active that other seeder-groups. The Hoovids re-seeding Planet Earth on three occasions? Are this perhaps three of the four periods that are described before the arrival of the Anunnaki? (11,12)

The lifespan of the Hoovid matches the one mentioned by Elena Danaan. The ‘leader’ of the Hoovids is called Jehovah in Schlemmer’s book. To me that sounds a lot like ‘Yahweh’ and that name gives me the creeps (3), but I might be too biased to understand that Jehovah might actually stand for something good. The Hoova would have created the Hebrews and they would have merged with the daughters of the Earth? Haven’t we heard that in connection with the Anunnaki?

An important question in this is…when would this have happened?

I would say that the Hebrews were created after 372,000 BC which would imply that the intergalactic Seeders have interbred with humans even after the waves of all the species from our own galaxy? And what about the story of the line of Abraham to Jesus which would hold the Enki-bloodline? It can’t be both Enki-bloodline and Hoovid bloodline, can it? And where is the Enlil-Ciakahrr-lineage that started about 3,700 BC in Schlemmer’s work? (13) Why is there no mention of the Anunnaki at all?

I intended to add a perspective by Ashayana Deane on the Hebrew people as well, but things are already far too complicated as they are. It is not an easy task to combine the historical account that is presented in Elena Danaan’s ‘The Seeders’ with the one presented in ‘The Only Planet of Choice’. It would have been great if they both matched perfectly, but they don’t, in my humble opinion. Some crucial elements do match fortunately, but others don’t, or I don’t understand it. Perhaps you can help solve this intriguing puzzle?

(1) Schlemmer, P. (1993) The Only Planet of Choice
(2) A visitor from Ivory Coast, Joe Kanteny, wrote this to me: “I don’t know if you have already read the book, in the book The Only Planet of choice, it is said that the Hoovids have sown the Jewish people. In fact each seeder race has a particularity, Altea is technology, Aragun is medicine, Ashai is art, the particularity of Hoovid is individualism, determination, ego.

To seed the humans of the Earth, the Seeders made a mixture of genome to create a really special race as you already know 11 Intergalactic genomes + 10 genome of our galaxy. the Jews had received a surplus of the Hoovid genome, which made them the most proudest race on Earth. and so their impact on a planetary level is huge, and over time it had become a problem.

Initially the Hoovid genome was to enable the plan of incarnation through an individual consciousness unlike the hive consciousness of some breeds. The problem is that the Jews had fallen into a form of pride, and therefore to repair this surplus the leader of the Hoovid in person decided to incarnate as a human to come and bring tolerance and fraternity to the Jewish people and by extension to the Earth, it was Yeshua. when it was born the Star of Bethlehem was actually a Hoovid ship.

And today I was reading the history of the Anunnaki via the books of Zecharia Sitchin and I remember that Elena said that Yeshua is from the line of Enki, the famous line of the ancestor Adamu. this is what makes me think that there is a link between the Annunaki and the Hoovid. the two races both have dark skin. And we both have a will to power to learn to control, this will to power that they transmitted to the earthlings.”
(3) In a comment on the page ‘Some Doubts on the Enlil-Yahweh vibe‘ Voice of the One wonders whether the Hoova are Anunnaki or not.
(4) Contact with the Council of Nine & Roddenberry’s Star Trek Future
(5) Contact with the Nine
(6) Danaan, E. (2022) The Seeders
(7) Our Intergalactic and Galactic Genomes
(8) The Intergalactic Confederation
(9) Thinking about life spans….read Having a Life Span of Two Thousand Years – The Metoni in the Proxima Centauri System or Aging and Disease as Galactic Anomalies or Different Faces of Immortality
(10) While searching through ‘The Only Planet of Choice’ I came across this story on the Alteans, which matches nicely with Elena Danaan’s experiences and Enki’s account of our history as far as the continent of Atlantis is concerned (see Seeders, p.504): “An example would be the civilisation of Altea; as we are in another realm of existence, we depend upon Altea for communicating with you. They guard the body of our being while you are in communication with us, and they provide the technology for us to communicate. Altea was also the head of what you know as the physical civilisation that manifested upon Planet Earth as Atlantis.”(1, p.24)

more on Atlantis:

“Tom: The land of Atlantis was developed by Altea, one of the major civilizations of the Twenty-Four, which was technologically advanced in many areas. Those of Altea upgraded again and merged with those who had already been geneticised. As Atlantis expanded over an enormous land mass, and colonized on far reaches of Planet Earth for they had the technological ability to do this – difficulties developed. This was because of Planet Earth with its beauty, variety and sense of feeling, because of their love and their technological expansion, and because they were attempting to bring Planet Earth to its true fulfillment of paradise. They became involved in the emotional feeling-state of physicalness, and became very involved in the creation of larger and more prominent mating organs. They also attempted, through their scientific knowledge and understanding, to genetically exchange creatures with soul-beings on Planet Earth through transplanting. Do you know what we mean?” (1, p.99)

(11) What happened 439 Thousand Years ago
(12) In the Seeders we can read: “The Pa-Taal performed four major global interventions on Earth, injecting new genetic input and performing DNA-upgrades. The three other following important dates were: 424.000 / 398.000 and 372.000 BC (6, p.493)
(13) The Enlil Lineage