On the Mining of the Rings of Saturn and Neptune

La Sagrada Familia – Barcelona (8)

I consider myself lucky to live in these times. Although they often seem rough and unfair, these also seem to be the times that we are on the treshold to expanding our reality far beyond our Earth. And isn’t it wonderful to not only be a witness of that, but even to modestly contribute to that by spreading ET-disclosure information?

This article once again zooms in on Saturn. It combines photographs of Voyager I with information from Alex Collier and that of the brilliant scientist Norman Bergrun. Enjoy another ride through the amazing world of extraterrestrial disclosure!

A JAPANESE STONE WAS CAST
In August 2023 Elena Danaan presented a conversation she had with Sacha Stone (1). It was a great summary of the major points of the galactic events the last couple of years. During this talk Sacha Stone broached a topic I hadn’t heard of before.

He told us about the astronaut scientist Brian O’Leary (2) and how he once during an exopolitics conference in 2009 in Barcelona (3) talked about some live-feed on Saturn that NASA and the Pentagon didn’t want the Japanese investors in the space mission to share. They would have done it anyway. Sacha Stone says that O’Leary showed him photographs of alien craft in the rings of Saturn, with one of the craft having a size of about 200 kms.

Norman Bergrun (image from 6)

FROM BRIAN O’LEARY TO NORMAN BERGRUN
I was unable to find anything on a Japanese sponsoring of a mission to Saturn. Nor could I directly find anything on O’Leary’s claims about alien craft in the rings of that planet. While searching for this I did encounter another scientist who actually did claim that there were vehicles spotted on photographs made by the old Voyager I back in 1980 (7).

Image showing what Bergrun calls a vehicle in the A-ring of Saturn (9).

Meet Norman Bergrun (1921-2018). He was a NASA-scientist with first-hand contact with the images sent from Voyager I to Earth. He noticed something odd and he wrote an interesting book on it, that is freely available. It is called ‘The Ringmakers of Saturn‘ (9). You can also watch an interview that Kerry Cassidy did with this remarkable man in 2012 (10).

Image showing a vehicle (9)

In the book he presents images which seem to show huge vehicles that would be the size of 2.5 Earth diameters! Just imagine, vehicles as big as 31,000 kilometers, or about 20,000 miles (11).

ALEX COLLIER ON HUGE MINING STATION IN RINGS OF SATURN
A lot more can be said about the fascinating work by both Brian O’Leary and Norman Bergrun, but I want to move on to my favorite contactees, Alex Collier and Elena Danaan. You can find more on O’Leary and Bergrun in the footnotes.

In a video from October 2022 (12) we can hear Alex Collier asking Chris O’Connor (the Saturn-guy) a question on Saturn. In the question he says that he once flew past Saturn during one of his trips with Moranay, his main Andromedan contact (13). He saw a huge ship that was approximately ten thousand miles in size. He was told that it was an ancient mining craft that was still operational. It would be maintained by drones and robots.

Alex Collier on the ancient mining craft with a size of ten thousand miles (12)

If you want to hear Chris O’Connor’s answer I advise you to pay a visit to the article ‘The Interstellar Post on Saturn‘, which was written about a year ago (14). Before moving on to the work of Elena Danaan you might consider reading another article that deals with the possibility that this mining facility was actually property of the Anunnaki. In the article on Enki and the Andromedan Council (15) The Anunnaki are heard to ask permission of the Andromedan Council to retrieve their mining equipment.

FROM SATURN TO NEPTUNE
Of course there is also a lot more to be said about Saturn and the Anunnaki link. I won’t repeat all of that here, but if you are interested I’ll give you a few links (14, 16-20). As if a mining facility on Saturn isn’t enough we have also been told about mining activity in the rings around Neptune a while ago. You might remember that Elena paid a few visits to Neptune (21,22). In one of those visits she was told that the Galactic Federation of World has a mining facility in the rings of Neptune, and she even set foot in a hangar in one of the rocks orbiting Neptune (21).

She was also told about floating cities and cities under water. You might also remember her meeting with the Koldassi.

SOME FINAL THOUGHTS
Well, did I say too much? I would love to hear your thoughts on the topics presented in this article (23). Did you already know Brian O’Leary or Norman Bergrun? Can you explain what Sacha Stone meant when he talked about the Japanese Space Program? Was he perhaps mixing things up? He was sure right on the Barcelona meeting and the presence of huge vehicles in the rings of Saturn.

Norman Bergrun developed the theory that those vehicles would actually add material to the rings, whereas Alex Collier clearly was told that they were mining material, just like the Galactic Federation of Worlds is mining material in the rings of Neptune.

Elena was given a kind of sight-seeing tour by Ea (aka Enki) around Saturn (16) and she was shown all kinds of ruins made out of some kind of anti-gravity material. Could there be a link with these huge vehicles, having a size between ten to twenty thousand miles?

OCTOBER 2024 UPDATE – JP AND MINING MISSION IN SATURN’S RINGS
On October 3, 2024, dr. Salla posted a video in which JP, his military contact, talks about his memories of the mining activities on Saturn. You can watch it yourself at (24).

Brian O’Leary (screenshot youtube video)

FOOTNOTES
(1) CONVERSATION WITH SACHA STONE ~Tracing Humanity’s Journey to Enlightenment and Liberation ~ Aug 2023 – At (11) you can find a video with the relevant excerpt on this theme of huge ships in the rings of Saturn.
(2) Brian O’Leary (1940-2011). It turns out that Brian O’Leary was an avant-garde whistleblower in the sense that he openly talked about the likelihood of extraterrestrial life and the huge cover-up on it. He was going to be an astronaut on a mission to Mars, but the financing for that mission was aborted.

Here’s an interesting part on him from the National UFO Center:

Dr. Brian O’Leary, on 18th September 1994 made the following declarations publicly at the International Forum on New Science in Fort Collins, Colorado. Dr O’Leary said that “For nearly 50 years, the secrecy apparatus within the United States Government has kept from the public UFO and alien contact information.

He flatly stated that. “We have contact with alien cultures…” As for the non-disclosure of these facts, Dr O’Leary said, “The suppression of UFO and other extraterrestrial intelligence information for at least 47 years is probably being orchestrated by an elite band of men in the CIA, NSA, DIA and their like. This small group appears able to keep these already-hard-to-believe secrets very well. Those who have investigated this hydra-headed beast believe that the Cosmic Watergate of UFO, alien, mind-control, genetic engineering, free-energy, anti-gravity propulsion and other secrets will make Watergate or Iran-Gate…appear to be kindergarten exercises.” – Brian O’Leary – NASA Astronaut (6)

Figure from The Ringmakers of Saturn (9)

(3) Exopolitics Conference in Barcelona 2009. At Project Camelot you can find the transcripts in two parts. Besides Brian O’Leary, Dr. Salla, Alfred Weber, Robert Dean (4) were among the other speakers that I know of (transcript part 1, transcript part 2).
(5) An Interview with Robert Dean
(6) UFO’s in Saturn’s Rings
(7) 40 Years Ago: Voyager 1 Explores Saturn – An article written by Kelli Mars
(8) Los 5 monumentos más importantes de Gaudí en Barcelona
(9) Bergun, N. (1986) The Ringmakers of Saturn
(10) NORM BERGRUN : RINGMAKERS OF SATURN INTERVIEW – Interview with Kerry Cassidy in 2012.
(11) If you join the Alex Collier and Andromedans Study Group you can see a lot of images and a video in which he explains why these vehicles would have that enormous size.
(12) ALEX COLLIER. TONY RODRIGUES CHRIS O’CONNOR & BRAD OLSEN SPEAKERS AT THE GALACTIC & SPIRITUAL EVENT
(13) Meeting Moraney and Changing the Colors of the Eyes
(14) The Interstellar Post on Saturn
(15) Enki and the Andromedan Council
(16) The Unknown Ancient Architects in our Solar System
(17) How Marduk became the Ruler of Saturn
(18) The Enlil Faction of the Anunnaki and the Saturn Agreement with the Orion Grays (Nebu)
(19) 8th Density ‘United Nations’ Space Station Mimas

Would this be real? This is not from Bergrun’s book. I found it on Pinterest. Source unknown.


(20) THE MIMAS AGREEMENTS with CHRIS O’CONNOR / Feb 9 2023 @5pm EST (In December 2022 a meeting took place on Saturn’s moon Mimas, between Anunnaki prince Ea and the Earth Alliance. As witness were many beings from the Intergalactic Confederation. In the process of his service as a diplomat in the United Nations Space Program, Chris O’Connor, assigned to Mimas, could attend a part of this event. He shares with us his experience…)
(21) A Parallel Neptune and the Koldasii
(22) Life on and near Neptune: A Mining Facility, Cities Underwater and Cities Floating
(23) Telegram groups: General Notices and UpdatesGalactic Anthropology Study GroupAlex Collier and Andromedans Study Group and the Galactic Anthropology Library. You can of course also comment below the articles.
(24) JP Update 38 – Mining the Rings of Saturn – Total Recall



8th Density ‘United Nations’ Space Station Mimas

On February 9, 2023 Elena Danaan posted a fascinating interview she had with Chris O’Connor (1). In that video a lot of things were said. In this article I will focus on the concept of a 8th density Space Station on Saturn’s Moon Mimas with some additional reflections on related matters.

CHRIS O’CONNOR’S TESTIMONY
In the past I’ve been more critical towards Chris O’Connor’s testimony because it contained a number of elements that were unique, and seemingly bit odd, when compared to the testimonies of other Secret Space Program witnesses. It was good to see that many of these elements were mentioned and addressed during the interview.

Saturn’s Moon Mimas (10)

One of those elements was Chris’ statement that he had visited Saturn whereas no one had ever mentioned Saturn before (2). In fact Thor Han had said that Saturn was a planet that they were not allowed to visit, it was off-limits even for the Galactic Federation of Worlds, and Elena even had said that Saturn used to be a stronghold for the Nebu too (3,4). That made me wonder why on Earth Chris would have had a space station with benevolent beings near Saturn, and even from an organization that no one had ever talked about before: the United Nations (Secret) Space Organization!

Well, I was convinced to take Chris O’Connor very seriously, because of a few things that were cleared up during this interview with Elena. For one: Chris is very consistent in what he says: he has been speaking of a space station orbiting Saturn, whereas nobody was talking about it at all (2) . He has always said that it was out of phase, or in other words, in a different density, and now it was explained that there is NO connection at all with our United Nations on Earth, with its headquarters in New York. So, there is no secret space program organized by the UN. He referred to an organization of off-world United Nations, with all kinds of worlds participating.

PRIMARILY IN 8th DENSITY
In the video-excerpt below Chris specifies that the space station was ‘primarily in eighth density‘ and just outside of the rings of Saturn. Because of this higher density nature of the space station they probably were invisible for the Nebu and Anunnaki that were residing in the lower atmosphere of Saturn (8). Chris describes this space station on Mimas as follows:

… I went to Mimas, which is the first of all of Saturn’s moons is one of the smallest but it’s also the first one just outside of the Rings of Saturn and there’s a that’s actually a space station. It’s a modified natural body that turned into a station that resides primarily in the eighth density so we would go there and we would meet with many other nations and then many other organizations and many other worlds many other races and we would work with all of these different […] races and other planets and even from other galaxies.” (1)

Let’s hear Chris describe Mimas and his job there:

Chris O’Connor talks about 8th Density Space Station Mimas

AGE ADVANCED
In the video above Chris talks about being age advanced. You can find out more about this process in an article from March 2022 (11).

THE FUNCTION OF THE MIMAS SPACE STATION
Apparently this mainly 8th density space station (which looks barren in 3D obviously) has a function as a meeting place for all kinds of species even from other galaxies. During an older interview from March 2022 (12) Elena asked Chris to describe a few of the people he had met during his work and he described beings that were even new for Elena then, like beings which looked like a monkey and a species that had a face like an elephant. He also described blueish beings with longer white hair. I added an excerpt from that video below because Chris O’Connor described these same beings again in the current video (1), which again adds to the credibility of this amazing story.

Chris O’Connor describes a number of species that were even unknown
to Elena Danaan which he met, probably also on the Mimas station (12)

OTHER ORGANIZATIONS
Within Nataru (Our Milky Way Galaxy) we have come to know a number of councils, like the Andromeda Council (13), the Council of Five and of course the Galactic Federation of Worlds. Since October 2021 the Intergalactic Confederation entered our scene (15). But it seems that this is far from the end. In the accounts of Chris O’Connor we can hear about meetings which would take place on a 8th density level with all kinds of unknown species in some off-world ‘United Nations’ organization. Then we also still have this mystery surrounding some ancient architects species that both Rebecca Rose, Tony Rodrigrues and Elena Danaan mentioned that was once present in our Solar System and left remnants on Ceres, Mars and around Saturn (16).

It seems that this fascinating ride through unknown territories is far from over.

FOOT NOTES
(1) THE MIMAS AGREEMENTS with CHRIS O’CONNOR / Feb 9 2023 (put behind paywall by ED in 2024)
(2) The Interstellar Post on Saturn
(3) The Return of the Seeders (October 13, 2021)
(4) It was later discovered that Saturn was a stronghold for the negative Anunnaki branch and that there indeed was a deal with the Nebu (5,6,7)
(5) How Marduk became Ruler of Saturn
(6) The Enlil Faction of the Anunnaki and the Saturn Agreement with the Orion Grays (Nebu)
(7) Things haven’t gone too well with the Nebu lately: see And The Lights went Out for the Nebu
(8) In NEW SATURN INTEL – ELENA DANAAN & CHRIS O’CONNOR SHARE THEIR REAL TIME EXPERIENCES – IT IS TIME! Elena Danaan talked about the latest developments on Saturn after the regressive Anunnaki were removed and Enki and his factions took over the planet. In that video we could hear that the planet was part of Anunnaki rule up until the first ring. In that video we can also hear that the planet would be handed over to the Earth Alliance (9). If you watch (1) you can hear that Chris O’Connor was present during a meeting in which this hand-over was done with the signing of the Mimas Agreements. For some unknown reasons this video was removed. We have done some research into this. You can find the results of this in one of the threads in the Galactic Anthropology Study Group on Telegram.
(9) The Earth Alliance
(10) Saturn’s moon Mimas (image from Solar Story Net) sure looks a lot like the Death Star from Star Wars. I even used an image of the Death Star to portray this space station orbiting Saturn in that article from September 2022 (2).
(11) Age Accelaration Technique in Secret Space Program
(12) THE DEEMS DEVICE ~ Gift from the Star People~ With Chris O’Connor. March 16, 2022
(13) The Zenae from the Andromeda Constellation
(14) What Came First? The Lyran or the Orion Wars? and Danaan, E. (2022) The Seeders, pp. 244-259
(15) The Intergalactic Confederation
(16) The Unknown Ancient Architects in Our Solar System

Jean-Charles Moyen as a SSP-Witnesses Hub

( Жан-Шарль Мойен в качестве центра SSP-Witnesses )

On January 28, 2023 Dr. Michael Salla did another fascinating interview with Jean-Charles Moyen (1). I decided to watch this video after I was pushed out of two private discotheques. In this interview Jean-Charles describes his extraordinary encounters with many other Secret Space Program witnesses. This article tries to the integrate those encounters with what we know so far.

Jean-Charles Moyen – Snapshot from (4)

JEAN-CHARLES MOYEN
I love Jean-Charles Moyen. He looks like a very sincere person with very extraordinary experiences and abilities (2). He featured in quite a lot of articles on this website. I will link to some of them while going through the interview. Jean-Charles lives in Canada and was born in France. Jean-Charles was also present at the Orlando Meeting in October 2022 (3) where many of the Secret Space Program witnesses told their amazing stories.

It was during that event that he got to physically meet other witnesses and contactees. Meeting them physically was often a very emotional experience as Jean-Charles describes in the interview, and they appeared to have triggered the emergence of memories of their encounters during the space programs. Let’s go over a number of them.

CHRIS O’CONNOR
Jean-Charles Moyen says that after he met Chris O’Connor (5-7) a memory resurfaced about seeing something like a box filled with what looked like ‘fire flies’. It appeared to hold consciousness, or perhaps it even was a soul that could be transferred into another being. You can watch Jean-Charles describe his meeting with Chris and Chris affirmed that he had seen those fire flies as well, but that he had never talked about it before.

Jean-Charles Moyen and Chris O’Connor

TONY RODRIGUES AND THE CERES LINK
Tony Rodrigues is a frequent visitor to this website as well. In december 2022 he featured in an article on watching Nebulas from within (8) and you might remember how he talked about passing through a stargate (9). Just like Rebecca Rose (10) he had his share of experiences with the Mantids on Mars (11). One of my first articles dealt with how Tony described how the Monroe Institute was misused by certain groups (12). Of course Tony has written a magnificent book on his 20 years as a member of the Secret Space Program (13).

In the video excerpt below Jean-Charles describes how he had finished his movie Star Seed Revelation 2 (14) some nine months before the release of Tony’s book called ‘The Ceres Colony Cavalier‘ in december 2022. The funny thing is that this tiny planet in the asteroid belt, which, by the way, was liberated in the summer of 2021 (15) played a role in his movie as a place which harbored people. He did a rescue operation there.

It was this planetoid that played a major role in Tony’s book: he spent 13 years of life there. What are the odds that Jean-Charles mentions Ceres as a (slave) colony in such a way that Tony does only nine months later? Jean-Charles was completely unaware of what Tony was writing about. I guess he didn’t even know who Tony Rodrigues was at that time.

Another thing was that Tony Rodrigues had an imaginary friend that moved into his room through his room with the name ‘Charlie’, which was confirmed by Tony’s mother. Charlie was also a nickname that Jean-Charles used when he was a child. Jean-Charles said that he actually remembered going into Tony’s room to try to persuade him to follow him, but Tony didn’t want to follow him at that time. (see 1, 17’05”)

Jean-Charles Moyen talks about Ceres and Tony Rodrigues

REBECCA ROSE
Sometimes it can be a tough job studying this material, you have to invest quite a lot of time in watching the relevant videos and when certain people appear in different shows, they tend to repeat what they have already said before. This was the case in this interview with regard to Jean-Charles’ experiences with Rebecca Rose. We have elaborately extensively about everything that Jean-Charles told Dr. Salla in this interview. It was good to hear that Jean-Charles said that exact same thing; that adds to his credibility. I don’t need to watch his documentaries to believe what he says.

Rebecca Rose – Snapshot from (17)

I was first introduced to Rebecca Rose in another interview that Dr. Salla did, a few months ago in November 2022 (16). I was impressed with her account and so were others, for it didn’t take long before she was also interviewed by Elena Danaan (17) and appeared with other people, with an amazing co-meeting that was hosted by Dani Henderson a few weeks ago in January 2023 (18).

In that particular interview Jean-Charles for the first time said that he had met Rebecca a number of times in various circumstances, which were later confirmed by Rebecca. I advice you to read the article ‘Different Parts of a Single Consciousness living in More Bodies Simultaneously‘ (19) to get a good understanding of the amazing examples that Jean-Charles described.

Just like Jean-Charles’ memories seems to have recovered at the moments that they turned relevant, Rebecca has recentely started to remember certain periods of her (horrible) Montauk days relating to the possible positive role of Russia in the disclosure movement (20,21). Rebecca also has her own website/blog in which she shares her discoveries (22).

ELENA DANAAN
The most impressive corroboration was of course formed between Jean-Charles and Elena Danaan. Much has been written about that. Elena described their experiences below the Sphinx (23) and their time below Lake Vostok in Antarctica (24). What was new for me was Jean Charles’ description of a shared experience he had with Elena while in Japan. He describes a scene in which he seemed to be lost in the streets of a Japanese city. He also mentions that he is confident that there is an ark below Mount Fuji.

For those who would like Jean-Charles to describe his visit to an Ark below Tibet head for (25).

FOOT NOTES
(1) Multiple witnesses remember their Secret Space Program encounters with one another. – For the Charlie-part click here
(2) Jean-Charles has a youtube channel which contains videos which describe his amazing experiences: Connexion Alien
(3) Galactic and Spiritual Informers Connection
(4) Jean-Charles Moyen « Enlevé à l’âge de 4 ans par les extraterrestres » est l’invité de Phil Dowan
(5) On Human Cloning in the Secret Space Program
(6) Age Accelaration Technique in Secret Space Program
(7) The Pineal Portal and the Seat of Consciousness
(8) Watching a Nebula from Within
(9) Experiencers describe going thought a Stargate
(10) We’ll get back to Rebecca Rose later in this next paragraph
(11) The Off-World Mantids
(12) The Misuse of the Monroe Institute Techniques – Rodrigues & Fiona Barnett
(13) Rodrigues, T. (2021) Ceres Colony Cavalier. Amazon.

Mount Fuji – Japan (26)

(14) Starseed Revelation 2
(15) The Liberation of Ceres
(16)  20 Years as a Cyborg Supersoldier on Mars & Kuiper Belt
(17) The Two Sides of of War
(18) TOP SECRET MILITARY SOLDIERS SHARE DISCLOSURE ON DARK PROGRAMS – REBECCA ROSE -JEAN CHARLES MOYEN 
(19) Different Parts of a Single Consciousness living in More Bodies Simultaneously
(20) Current Resurfacing of (Montauk) Memories from the Future
(21) Exploring the Russian Dimension
(22) Rebecca Rose – Blog page – Rebecca rose is also on Telegram: Rebecca Rose Sirius Blue
(23) The Sphinx: Eggs, Nazi-Excavations, Spaceships, a Feline Guardian and a Tunnel to Romania
(24) Elena describes it in her book The Seeders in the chapter called ‘Lake Vostok’ (pp 387-394). You can also watch them both talk about their experience in an interview they had with Dr. Salla in April 2022: Space Arks & Halls of Records in Antarctica, Giza, Tibet & Bahamas (this link brings you directly to the part where Jean-Charles talks about their trip to Lake Vostok, including his first encounter with Thor Han).
(25) Astropaleontology in Tibet: Hall of Records found under Mt. Kailasa
(26) Mount Fuji

The Exodus from Maldek

In a video from december 10, 2022 both Elena Danaan and Chris O’Connor talk about Maldek, and once again Chris presents a perspective that seems at odds with the information that Elena has been bringing forward (2). I want to go into that and there is a link with the Ant People (5) that were seen by JP, the military contact of Dr. Michael Salla below the surface of Florida a few months ago.

The Asteroid Belt – Remnants of the Planet Maldek (9)

MALDEK
We have spoken about Maldek a few times before on this website. Maldek, the planet that was destroyed, forming the asteroid belt, would have harboured a colony of the Aldebaran Anunnaki (Janosians). They called their planet ‘Janos’. They left for the Aldebaran system after the cataclysm took place on Maldek (6). In a footnote on the page on the ‘League of the Hairless’ (7) I quoted the reason behind the destruction of the planet, as it was described in the Seeders. It is useful to repeat it here again:

72.000 BC – A war started on Maldek and some of the inhabitants fled to Earth, Mars and Venus, taking with them some of the ‘Yeti’populations. The conflict involved the Galactic Federation of Worlds and the Intergalactic Confederation on one side, and the Maytra and Nebu Orion Grays on the other side, after Nebu outposts were taken down in the solar system.

Ciakahrr and Nebu had outposts on Maldek and we need to remember that Maytra, Ciakahrr and Nebu are all part of the nefarious Alliance of the Six (the three others are the Zeta Reticuli, Kiily Tokurt and Solipsi Rai but these didn’t get involved in this particular conflict). The war ended in a nuclear disaster in which the planet Maldek was blown up. Everybody who was still on the planet was killed and this catastrophe also caused Mars to start losing its atmosphere” ((The Seeders, pp. 500-501), 8)

So much for the background. In the video below you can hear Elena Danaan add some new information, namely that the Ant People (5) would have lived both on Mars and Maldek. Let’s listen along:

Elena Danaan talks about the Ant People (probably from the Seeders’ root race of the Ashai), Maldek and Mars (1)

In the above video Elena says that the Ant People mainly moved to the Americas when they had their exodus from both Maldek and Mars. In the Seeders we can hear that many of the inhabitants also went to live on the continent of Lemuria, or Mu:

71.900 BC – The geography of the planet was different in this period of time. A large piece of land existed in the south Pacific Ocean, remembered as “Lemuria”. These territories, who were already a compound of different colonies, received the Martian refugees from the Nebu war in the Sol System and the cataclysmic explosion of planet Maldek.” (8, p.501)

THEY DESTROYED THEIR OWN PLANET
After Elena talked about the Ant People from Maldek, Chris adds information that doesn’t seem to match with the story of the fight between the Intergalactic Confederation and the Galactic Federation of Worlds on the one side with the Maytrea and the Ciakahrr on the other side, leading to the nuclear annihilation of the planet. Chris talks about a ‘more mammalian based race who were with the Ant People. And I always knew that they were fighting amongst themselves, ending up, unfortunately, destroying their planet.’

I might interpret this falsely, but it sounds a lot like Chris is suggesting that the Ant People together with this Mammalian based species, destroyed their own planet, without any outside interference, no Nebu, no Ciakahrr and no Intergalactic Confederation or Galactic Federation of Worlds would have played a part.

Chris O’Connor on Maldek (1)

THE SASQUATCH
At the end of this excerpt, Chris talks about the Sasquatch being the ones into which the Mammalian based species would have predominantly incarnated into. Elena does confirm the element of these Sasquatch coming from Maldek. When I looked around a bit on the internet to find out more about the Sasquatch I came across a trilogy from Sunbow, called ‘The Sasquatch Message to Humanity – conversations with Elder Kamooh‘ (11).

In the first book (11) you can find quite a lot of references to the Ant People and Maldek, although the stories don’t seem to match with what is said above. The book seems to imply that Maldek was destroyed by ‘the Elders’ in order to prevent the ‘lower lords’ from invading Earth again (12).

THE NEGUMAK AND MALDEK
In October 2023 during the third chat between Dr. Salla and Thor Han (13,14) we received new information about an earlier presence of the Negumak in our Solar System. They would have had an outpost on Mars and they would have battled the Ciakahrr. They left after Maldek exploded. Stories about Negumak-like insects fighting Ciakahrr would have passed from those people on Maldek and Mars that were moved to our planet some 74.000 years ago. As you can hear in the relevant excerpt below Sam Osmanagich (15,16) told Dr. Salla about these epic tales in ancient narratives.

Thor Han talks about the Negumak and their time on Mars and Maldek (13)

SOME REFLECTIONS
So, there was this huge battle over Maldek, with not only the GFW and the Intergalactic Confederation playing a role, but also the Negumak. They seemed to have all been fighting some members of the Alliance of the Six: the Nebu, The Ciakahrr and the Maytra. What would have been the reason for this fight? We still don’t know the answer to whatever caused this catastrophy

LINKS
(1) GALACTIC NEWS, GIANTS, EA,SPELLS & ENERGY, CHRIS O’CONNOR, ELENA DANAAN & DANI HENDERSON BRING IT! (December 10, 2022) – In October 2023 I noticed a kind of ‘Chris O’Connor-video purge‘ from the Youtube Channel of Dani Henderson. Read more about it in the Elena Danaan and Disclosure Community Study Group (see topic: Chris O’Connor)
(2) We have seen this phenomenon before; think about Chris’ claim that Enlil’s mother would have been an Earth-based Reptilian (3), and that he would have served on a secret space program group from the United Nations in another density Saturn (4).
(3) The Nagai, Igigi and the Question of Enlil’s Mother
(4) The Interstellar Post on Saturn
(5) The Ant People
(6) The Story of the Aldebaran Anunnaki and Outpost 361
(7) The League of the Hairless – Grays and the Like
(8) Danaan, E. (2022) The Seeders
(9) Image from Fine Art America. We have come across other solar system related belts lately as well. This was in the context of the Ciakahrr planet in the Kuiper Belt (10). Ceres is also part of the Asteroid Belt: see The Liberation of Ceres
(10) A Draco Planet in the Kuiper Belt
(11) Sunbow (2016) The Sasquatch Message to Humanity
(12) Below is an excerpt from (11) from page 141. Maldek and Apollyon are one and the same planet.

This intervention aborted the attempt of the Archons to invade Earth,
but they still had large and fast growing populations on planet
Maldek or Apollyon, that were supplied with new forces through their
star gates.


The Star Elders knew that it was a matter of time before
the lower lords would reform a new army, likely more powerful, for a
new invasion. In order to save the solar system from this darker fate,
they had to eliminate the star gates and armies of fallen souls,
constantly building up in a larger threat.


They took a grave and rare decision in the annals of the universe: to
destroy a planet with life in order to save a solar system’s spiritual
consciousness. With technologies only known to them, the Star
Elders Council sacrificed the planet Apollyon, which exploded and
turned into the actual asteroid belt.

(13) The Jupiter Hub, Moon, Medbeds, Ukraine & Israel/Palestine – A Conversation with Thor Han Eredyon
(14) On the Connection between Thor Han and Elena Danaan
(15) On the age of the Pyramids – for more on Sam Osmanagich
(16) Ancient Pyramids are Communications Devices used by ETs according to Discoverer of Bosnian Pyramid – Interview between Dr. Salla and Dr. Osmanagich

The Nagai, Igigi and the Question of Enlil’s Mother

In the video from November 25, 2022 in which Elena elaborates on the history of the Anunnaki (especially Marduk) related to the planet Saturn (1,2) she also shares some thoughts with Chris O’Connor & Dani Henderson about the differences between the appearance of Ea/Enki and his half brother Enlil. She had already given a description of Enlil after she had seen him in that trial before the Four Councils (3,4).

What follows is a remarkable novelty that Chris O’Connor introduced: he suggested that Enlil’s mother ‘was actually from Earth, from the original Reptilian Earthlings‘. Elena responded with talk about the Igigi and the Nagai. Before we delve deeper into this thesis, let’s first watch Elena talk about Enlil and how his mother must have been of the Reptilian kind and then the discussion that follows

Elena Danaan and Chris O’Connor talk about the Reptilian Mother of Enlil (1)

THE COMPLEXITY OF THE ANUNNAKI
It is not easy to get your head around these Anunnaki and their history. In the beginning they would have been made out of a mix of the Eban (Grays) and the humanoid T-Ashkeru from Sirius B (5). You can read more about this birthing of the Anunnaki race at (6). How and when this exactly happened is unclear, but somehow Anu and his sons Enki and Enlil appeared. Of course they did not appear out of nowhere and I was able to find one geneaological tree of Anu’s parents and grandparents. I’m not sure about the source and the validity of it, but it might help in understanding where the Reptilian characteristics of Enlil come from.

One of the Genealogical trees of some important Anunnaki (7)

When we look at this family tree we can notice the striking absence of any Gray or T-Ashkeru. Perhaps Apsu was a Gray, or would he have been a T-Ashkeru? Or would all this mixing between these two races have occurred earlier? Well, anyway. There is this ‘Dragon Queen’ Tiamat at the root of this family tree, and we can see that Enki’s mother is called ‘Antu’ and that Enlil’s mother carries the logical name ‘Ki’ (to make things easier…). So would those Reptilian genes come from Mother Ki? Perhaps Elena can ask Ea to provide some clarification. I mean, he must know whether his aunt is reptilian or carries reptilian genomes (8). I have tried to collect the Anunnaki-family links in another page (19).

UPDATE OCTOBER 2023
In webinar 4 (17) Elena almost apologized for having been given other names than the names introduced by Zecharia Sitchen. She said it was up to the scholars to come to find out where those differences come from. In another video (18) she said that the name of Enlil’s mother, a Ciakahrr queen, is Tia (so, not Ki at all).

THE NAGAI AND WAS ENLIL’S MOTHER AN EARTHLING?
So after all this we can get back to Chris O’Connor’s remark that Enlil’s mother (who we now know as Tia) would actually come from Earth! How logical is this? Chris backs up this extraordinary claim by saying that there the earliest inhabitants of Earth were Reptilians, which is confirmed by Elena in her book the Seeders. These earliest inhabitants were the Nagai. Elena nicely described their arrival in a video from November 16 (9). This would have happened some 200 million years ago (10)

Elena Danaan and the Arrival of the first inhabitants of Earth: the Nagai (9)

Is Chris perhaps talking about these Reptilian guys that would have mainly fled underground after the ‘cleaning up’ of the Seeders (11). Would one of these have somehow met Anu to create Enlil? But why on Earth (mind the pun) would Anu come all the way to Earth to pick up a Naga-woman to produce off-spring with her? And didn’t the Anunnaki only appear on Earth for the first time 372,000 years ago on their famous starship Nibiru with Enlil already born-and-well onboard? (12)

PERHAPS THE IGIGI?
In the talk between Elena Danaan and Chris O’Connor Elena introduces the Igigi. We have recently talked about these Anunnaki-workers at the page on the chronology of the Anunnaki (13) and they don’t seem to be the kind of people Anu would marry with either, I guess. Here’s a quote from the Seeders:

“The Igigi are a sub-class of our kind. They rebelled and were dealt with. Some escaped to the undergrounds of Terra. But you see, my half-brother was concerned with the debit of production. So he made this decision although I was at first not enthusiastic about it. It was decided that we would study the genes of the early humans, the Black Heads, for the purpose of improving their capacities.” (The Seeders (10), p.478)

ENLIL’S MOTHER WAS A CIAKAHRR QUEEN
In an update from June 2023 (14) we can hear Elena Danaan giving more details about Enlil’s mother. She said that ‘Anu married a Ciakahrr Queen to gain territories’, but that it was a mistake in the sense that Enlil, the son of this ‘marriage’ could not be stopped on Earth, because of the combined powers of the Anunnaki (15), and the Ciakahrr.

Elena Danaan talks about the remarkable parents of Enlil (14)

CONCLUSION
Even though I think Chris O’Connor is a very sympathetic man I doubt his claim that Enlil’s mother would stem from a Reptilian from Earth. If the Anunnaki arrived here on Earth only 372,000 BC (with Enki onboard), when would Anu have had time to ‘date’ this Terran Reptilian woman? It also seems very unlikely that he would have tried anything with the Anunnaki sub-class of the Igigi.

But perhaps Anu had a secret meeting that no one knows about? Who can tell? Where did Chris get this information from? Now we have learned that Enlil’s mother was not just a reptilian, but a Ciakahrr queen. How does this match with that family tree above, who also mentions a queen, but a Dragon Queen, called Tiamat, who according to that tree would be the great-grandmother of Anu? And is it coincidence that Enlil’s mother carries the name of Tia (which is at least half of Tiamat)?

Let’s assume, for the sake of clarity, that Elena is right in her analysis and that Enlil’s mother is a Ciakahrr Queen. What would she have thought of his expulsion? Is she still alive as well, just like Anu? And what does this been for the far more recent mixing between Enlil’s lineage and that of the Ciakahrr around 5700 B.C.? (16)

LINKS
(1) NEW SATURN INTEL – ELENA DANAAN & CHRIS O’CONNOR SHARE THEIR REAL TIME EXPERIENCES – IT IS TIME!
(2) How Marduk became the Ruler of Saturn and The Enlil Faction of the Anunnaki and the Saturn Agreement with the Orion Grays
(3) The Council of the Shining Ones
(4) Anu, Enlil and Enki and the Meeting with the Four Councils
(5) For those who have missed it, the complete star system of Sirius B would have cleared of those Grays, the Nebu because of frequency discoveries made during the clearing of our solar system. Read/Listen all about it in an excellent article by Elena herself at: Collapse of the Dominion
(6) The Anunnaki and the Sirius Connection – Danaan & Cinamar
(7) Family Tree of EN-KI and EN-LIL
(8) Perhaps this reptilian genetic inclination led Enlil to seal this pact with the Reptilian Ciakahrr to produce the Enlil Lineage?
(9) Galactic History: Elena Danaan Discusses Anunnaki, ET Root Races, Atlantis and more – Video November 16, 2022
(10) Danaan, E. (2022) The Seeders – see page 491
(11) Did a Fusion Bomb cause the Extinction of the Dinosaurs some 65 million years ago?
(12) The Planet Ashtari and Spaceship Nibiru
(13) The Chronology of the Era of the Anunnaki
(14) DISCLOSURE ~ Galactic Federation of Worlds~June 11 2023 (5:45 pm EST)
(15) In June 2023 Elena started to refer to the Anunnaki with the term ‘Anach’ (or Anachim). It’s not clear to me why she is making, or has made that particular switch.
(16) The Enlil Lineage
(17) Webinar 4 first 15 minutes
(18) STOP FEARING AND WORSHIPING! Important Message for the Christian community. (October 8, 2023)
(19) The Anunnaki Royal Family: Then and Now


The Enlil Faction of the Anunnaki and the Saturn Agreement with the Orion Grays (Nebu)

On October 31, 2022 we had a great treat: Dr. Salla presented a video in which he was sitting phsyically with both Elena Danaan, Alex Collier and JP in a room after the Orlando meeting from October 21-23 (1,2). They talked about all kinds of intriguing topics which I intend to cover in future articles as well. Triggered by a recent scientific article on how Saturn may have become tilted some 100 to 150 million years ago because of a moon (Chrysalis) that crashed on that planet (3,4), they shared their knowledge about Saturn.

We have spoken about Saturn a couple of times before (5), but like Elena Danaan says in the following excerpt it has always been a planet that was to be avoided. Now she explains why: Saturn was not a part of the territory that the Galactic Federation of Worlds would be allowed to enter because it was under control of the Enlil Faction of the Anunnaki.

And not only that. There would have been an agreement between this Enlil Faction and the Nebu or Orion Grays, which would have allowed for that ‘dark’ connection between Saturn, the Moon and Earth (5).

During the cleansing of 2021 the Enlil group would have lost its power base on Saturn. Elena describes how Enki would now have taking over the rule of his half-brother, which still leaves Saturn under Anunnaki-control.

In the video Dr. Michael Salla wonders if we would start to see a kind of repeat of the ancient Anunnaki-family feuds in these times. Elena Danaan reminded us of Enki’s words that ‘Enlil was neutralized’. This cannot be said of his lineage on Earth, at least not yet (6).

LINKS
(1) Sleeping Giants, Return of Enki & Saturn Moon Crash: Roundtable Discussion (video)
(2) Sleeping Giants, Return of Enki & Saturn Moon Crash: Roundtable Discussion (article)
(3) “They conclude that Saturn’s present tilt is the result of the resonance with Neptune and that the loss of the satellite, Chrysalis, which was about the size of Iapetus, Saturn’s third-largest moon, allowed it to escape the resonance. Sometime between 200 and 100 million years ago, Chrysalis entered a chaotic orbital zone, experienced a number of close encounters with Iapetus and Titan, and eventually came too close to Saturn, in a grazing encounter that ripped the satellite to bits, leaving a small fraction to circle the planet as a debris-strewn ring. The loss of Chrysalis, they found, explains Saturn’s precession, and its present-day tilt, as well as the late formation of its rings.” from Saturn’s rings and tilt could be the product of an ancient, missing moon
(4) During the round table discussion it seems that some believe that this crash of a moon into Saturn happened recently. When you read the article however (3), this was not the case. The theory to back a claim that there might have been a moon more than 100 million years ago that clashed on Saturn and caused the rings and the slight tilting of its axis.
(5) Saturn was mentioned in connection with the destruction of the ‘holographic projector’ on the Moon. Elena talks about this dark link between Saturn, the Moon and Earth in this video just before the excerpt that I added to this current article that you are now reading. Chris O’Connor has been the one who claimed that he had served on Saturn during his 20-years-and-back programs. The idea that Saturn has been a territory of the Enlil-faction of the Anunnaki puts even more weight to my suspicion of the veracity of his story. Perhaps he was unknowingly fooled. For more see Endnotes 147,148 and 170. You might also take a look at The Interstellar Post on Saturn
(6) The Enlil Lineage

The Interstellar Post on Saturn

The Death Star from the Series Star Wars

In an intriguing interview on September 9, 2022, Dr. Michael Salla and Chris O’Connor talk about the 20-year-and-back programs of Chris (1,2,3). He says that in his second program (he remembered signing for the second and third one) he spent most of his time in a non-human station on Saturn. This post would be inhabited by all kinds of coalitions of races that would have an unwritten rule that they assist the less-developed nations (like ours on Earth).

Not only would they have such a station on Saturn, but Chris said that there is also a station on both Jupiter (4) and Neptune (7). The station was a huge spaceship which looked metallic and was miles in size, and it that looked a bit like the Death-star from Star Wars. The various species would all have their own bases within that station, just like Jean-Charles Moyen and Elena Danaan described the Excelsior that orbits our planet (8).

Chris goes on to say that the station is out of phase, which makes it invisible to the human eye and it is orbiting the rings of Saturn. He ends this part by saying that there are (or should we now say, were) other posts that are als being inhabited by more negative species.

Elena Danaan didn’t say a whole lot about Saturn as far as I know, but she does seem to imply that the Nebu and the Dark Fleet had an outpost in Saturn. Here’s a part from a video from October 2021:

Saturn was a stronghold of the Nebu and the Dark fleet. They’re gone, they’re leaving. I know there
are military operations on Saturn at the moment, I am not told but it’s good things like cleaning.
” (9)

There is also this concept of a kind of machine that would have projected some sort of matrix on our world, making it hard to think outside of the prescribed reality that the regressive forces wanted us to stay in. The major ‘projector’ would have been on the Moon, but some low-frequency generator would have functioned from Saturn as well (10).

In fact we need to realize that the matrix is a mind tricks. It’s an illusion. It’s real, well actually it’s
gone. This matrix, this holographic matrix was broadcasted from the moon. That’s been dismantled.
The one on Saturn as well… It’s not there anymore.
” (9)

The Hexagon on the North Pole of Saturn (11)

HEXAGON ON SATURN
While we are on Saturn, Thor Han was once asked if he could explain the hexagon on the North Pole of Saturn. This is what he answered:

Saturn is not a place I like to go. But the gravity and the way it spins creates certain distortions in the clouds, it is all geometrical forces and sometimes the pull can form at the difference of temperature an hexagonal form, that is typical of difference of currents in the air, and the atmosphere at the contact of cold masses and hot masses, combined to a certain spin speed of spin.” (12)

ATTEMPT TO ESCAPE THROUGH THEIR SATURN PORTAL NEAR FORMER SATURN BASE
Saturn was also mentioned around the time that the Tall Whites (Ebans) were caught in September/ October 2021. Also not in a favorable light. In an article by Dr. Michael Salla (13) we can read that the same Ebans that had reached agreements with the Majestic 12 group were in custody. Thor Han speaks about them as follows:

TH: “They are the equivalent of officers, part of a special high command. They were fleeing Dulce base and trying to escape by the Saturn portal, located near their former Saturn base. They are not part of a council. We need to examine them first, and when we reach satisfaction, we will revive them and take them through the usual procedure. No negotiation. Nebu don’t negotiate, they kill the elements of the hive who have been “infected”, to use the term they employ.” (13, 14)

SOME THOUGHTS
It is a bit strange to notice that Chris O’Connor talks about Saturn as being a place where there would have been an interstellar post to which the UN Space Force would be connected. Why has Thor Han not mentioned this once? And why are there mainly regressive forces who are linked to Saturn? And isn’t the UN highly infiltrated by the Cabal? And then there is this element that Chris O’Connor claims that he is currently in a 20-years-and-back program until 2030 (his third) and he is fully alive on our planet as well. See more on this at Endnote 148. For me this casts some doubt on Chris O’Connor’s testimony, but we will see.

In the book ‘The Seeders’ Saturn is also mentioned at page 205.

ALEX COLLIER ON A MINING STATION NEAR SATURN
On October 3, 2022 Dani Henderson held a meeting with Alex Collier, Chris O’Connor, Tony Rodriguez and Brad Olsen. In that meeting there was this moment when Alex Collier asked Chris O’Connor a question (15). Alex told him that he once passed by Saturn with Moranay (16) and that he was shown a huge ship, with a size of 10,000 miles, filled with drones and robots that was functioning as a mining facility. He wondered if that were the same ship as the one that Chris O’Connor worked on for a huge part of his 20-years-and-back program (17).

Chris said that he was another ship that was especially made for people to live on; it was made as a ship with a habitat (or various habitats for various species). He reiterated that the ship could not be seen with telescopes because it was out of fase (probably in some other density). Then Dani intervened and said to Chris that he once told her that he had to go through a mining ship to enter the main ship. Chris answered that they were not really connected, but only in the sense that this mining facility was used to aid in the building of the space ship.

Alex asks Chris a question on the mining facility he once saw near Saturn and Chris’ Saturn Station

LINKS
(1) Conducting Diplomatic Negotiations Between Secret Space Programs & Extraterrestrials (Interview Youtube)
(2) See End Note 147 for more information related to this interview. Elena Danaan has had an interview with Chris O’Connor back in March 2022 as well.
(3) Age regression by Twenty Years
(4) Recently Oona, who is an emissary for the Intergalactic Confederation said that ships of the huge fleet orbiting Jupiter would be visible on images from the James Webb Star Telescope (5, 6)
(5) CONTACT 10 -The Fleets of the Star Nations (July 13 2022)
(6) Does James Webb Telescope Image of Jupiter show Galactic Vessels?
(7) Elena says she paid a visit to Neptune (and she passed Saturn on the way), see A Parallel Neptune and the Koldassi and End Note 121
(8) The Excelsior and the Solaris
(9) The Return of the Seeders (October 13, 2021)
(10) The Movie-projector is turned off – Are we going to Continue to Play the same Movie or not?
(11) From a Reddit-post in 2019
(12) I found this excerpt from a youtube-video that I cannot find anymore. It has got questions from someone who is called ‘Elisa’. Perhaps it is Elisa Herrera. The video was from February 25, 2021.
(13) Have Tall Gray alien leaders just been captured by the Galactic Federation?
(14) These words by Thor Han can also be found in Elena Danaan’s The Seeders at page 56.
(15) ALEX COLLIER. TONY RODRIGUES CHRIS O’CONNOR & BRAD OLSEN SPEAKERS AT THE GALACTIC & SPIRITUAL EVENT
(16) Meeting Moraney and Changing the Color of the Eyes
(17) Age Regression by 20 Years

The Pineal Portal and the Seat of Consciousness

The Crystal Pineal Gland – Image appears on various unrelated websites

The Pineal gland is an extraordinary gland. In days past it was called ‘the seat of the soul‘ by René Descartes (1). This gland might have crystalline properties. This page goes into a few references to the pineal gland in the videos by Elena Danaan. First we’ll talk about how it was mentioned by Chris O’Connor and then we’ll spend some time on Elena’s experience with Oona. We will also briefly touch upon the perspectives of both David Wilcock and George Kavassilas’ on the pineal gland.

Chris O’Connor and Consciousness Extraction
In a video from March 2022 (2) we can hear about Chris O’Connor’s (3) experiences during one of his 20-year-and-back programs (4). As was already described on the page on Cloning (5), he said that a device that looked a lot like the Deem’s Device (2) is used to not only extract memories from someone, but it is also used to extract the consciousness from the pineal gland (13). This seems to confirm what Descartes proposed in the seventeenth century, although I guess he never thought of adding this consciousness to a freshly prepared clone.

The Pineal Gland as a Portal
Elena Danaan talked about her experience with Oona (6) several times in a number of videos. In a video from December 8, 2021 she says the following about her meeting with the Nine: “I was my consciousness, not my physical body. My consciousness was projected in the void and there was a big vortex that was inside of my – I think my pineal gland was the portal (12) – , and I went through this and I was projected in the void through the portal, the wormhole and I was in their presence. My consciousness was expanded infinitely because in this void there is no space. It’s like infinitely existent and non-existent at the same time. It’s nowhere and everywhere at the same time. Bear with me because it’s very difficult to encompass this this idea. In this case it’s beyond my incapacities in English language, is beyond words.” (10)

In a more recent interview with Jeff Mara she elaborated more on the pineal gland. In that video (11) we can hear her say the following: “So I have a friend her name is Oona (6), she is six density she’s quite high frequency she came into my room once. She materialized she sat on my bed and she connected me – she made the bridge to connect me with these nine plasmic consciousnesses because I couldn’t do it myself. I needed someone to to just do the the impulse, the bridge for me, and bring me there.

She put her index through my forehead and like she dematerialized and went inside and i know she touched my pineal gland and when she did that i just fell asleep, like my body was just shutting down. I could see a vortex opening, it was like a wormhole, it was green and white twirling, twirling, twirling, twirling and my consciousness left my body and was projected in it and I was in the void: it was darkness, total darkness and i sensed presences and that’s when i heard them and they were light and and i saw them and i heard their voice in my head and that’s how i got there.” (11).

DAVID WILCOCK AND THE PINEAL GLAND
In an X-post from May 23, 2025 (14) we can hear dr. Salla talk about the way both David Wilcock an George Kavassilas regard the Pineal Gland. When it comes to David Wilcock (15) he writes:

David Wilcock’s analysis of the Pineal Gland provides many insights into its core functions and how it relates to dreams, visions, and the 3rd Eye. I appreciated the historical analysis he gave of the Pineal Gland, especially the emphasis that the Anunnaki gave to it. In many cuneiform texts/glyphs, an Anunnaki, Enki/Ea, is depicted holding a pine cone that is placed next to his human creations. Wilcock interprets this as the Anunnaki knowing the Pineal Gland’s importance in stimulating human higher functions. ” (14)

GEORGE KAVASSILAS AND THE PINEAL GLAND
This is the debut for George Kavassilas on this website. Dr. Salla has done quite a few interviews him lately (19,20) and he is scheduled for a webinar (21). He runs his own website (22) and we have reserved a thread for Kavassilas in our Study Group (23,24). It appears that his perspective is quite at odds with the Elena Danaan perspective that we use as our working hypothesis on this website.

George Kavassilas (18)

Let’s listen to his ideas surrounding the pineal gland. Dr. Salla continues in his post (14):

There is however another interpretation that intrigues me. George Kavassilas claims that Anunnaki created the Pineal Gland as a means of controlling humanity, whereby dreams/visions, etc., feed directly into a God Matrix. That suggests that rather than Enki/Ea holding pine cone for the purpose of stimulating the Pineal Gland, that it in fact such glyphs are evidence that Enki and the Anunnaki created it and inserted it into humans as part of their control system as Kavassilas claims.” (14)

I cannot deny that I was quite surprised when I heard this original take. In a book description I could verify that indeed this is what Kavassilas suggests:

There are thousands of extra-terrestial stellar civilizations, some evil, most humane (pun intended). The pineal gland is an implanted biological feature that enables the worst of these civilization to control our elites at one level (Satanic blood rites) and the rest of us at another level (dumbed down acceptance of fake government, fake media, fake religions, and predatory toxic corporations) (25).

I discovered that this idea is not something new; he already talked about it in an 2018 interview with Dr. Salla (26), where he also mentioned the Saturn-Moon Control Matrix (27-29).

How logical is it to assume that the Anunnaki would have actually CREATED the pineal gland as a means to control humanity? Why do most (if not all) mammals have pineal glands? Dit the Anunnaki created pineal glands in all these animals as well? And what about all these accounts where the calcification of the pineal gland is linked to some higher awareness?

Elena Danaan seems to have indirectly responded to Kavassilas’ take on the pineal gland (30).

SOME REFLECTIONS
For now I prefer to regard the pineal gland as a nearly holy gland, the third-eye, with the potential to elevate our awareness to higher densities. Kavassilas not only regards the pineal gland as something negative, but he even thinks of the chakra system as a synthetic construct designed to manipulate humanity (31). I don’t think that is likely, but who knows? What are your thoughts on this issue? Share them in our Study Group or join one of the other groups (32).

Dani and Chris (snapshot)

LINKS
(1) Descartes and the Pineal Gland – Stanford Encyclopedia of Philosophy
(2) THE DEEMS DEVICE ~ Gift from the Star People~ With Chris O’Connor. March 16, 2022 at 6pm EST
(3) Here’s a snapshot from a video that Dani Henderson did with Chris O’Connor as special guest in Costa Rica 😉 DEEMS DEVICE LIVE OPENING – WITH DANI HENDERSON AND SURPRISE GUEST
(4) Twenty Year and Back-Program
(5) On Human Cloning in the Secret Space Program

Oona (source)

(6) Oona is a 6th Dimensional being who ‘works’ as an emissary of the Intergalactic Confederation (7). She was the one who guided Elena to the Nine, and she also (with many others from the Galactic Federation of Worlds and the Earth Alliance) tried to offer the Cabal a chance to hand over the keys of their malevolent financial system in return for an escape to another planet (8). She also shared messages in the contact series: 5 (Oona on the Arks), 10 (The Fleets of the Star Nations) and 12 (Message from Other Galaxies)
(7) Intergalactic Confederation
(8) Part 2 – Cabal leaders go to Antarctica to surrender to Extraterrestrials & Earth Alliance – Well, as I write this in August it doesn’t look like the Cabal have accepted this offer. Apparently they have opted to fight until the end, even without the support of their off-world ‘masters’. Let’s hope they will collapse rapidly. Their powers are rapidly dwindling, now it is take for us to take things in our hands (9)
(9) It is time to Soar as Humanity and Add the last Stone to the Monument – It is up to us now
(10) Ganymede and Q&A, December 8, 2021
(11) Messages from Aliens they want you to know – Interview with Jeff Mara on August 6, 2022 (jump right to the quote)
(12) For more on Portal see: Portals, Stargates and Wormholes
(13) This reminds me of this awful practice called ‘soul harvesting’. Look for more on that ugly topic at Soul Harvesting and Soul Scalping
(14) https://x.com/MichaelSalla/status/1925900583665275082
(15) David Wilcock hardly appears on this website. You can see him in his role as host in the once popular Cosmic Disclosure series where he interviews Corey Goode (16). He also appears in the article on the weird fires in Paradise, California and the link with those he calls the Centaurians (17).
(16) The Global Galactic League of Nations established in the 1980s and 1990s
(17) Wilcock Interview on Centaurians and the Fire in the town of Paradise, California
(18) Outer Limits of Inner Truth
(19) Ascension vs Integration – Gods, ETs and the Omniverse: An Interview with George Kavassilas
(20) Diplomatic Letter from an Inner Earth Draco Reptilian on Humanity’s Potential and Overcoming Duality
(21) Dilemma of a Star Trek Future and Challenge to Human Sovereignty
(22) Our Journey Home
(23) We started this thread way back in September 2023: see George Kavassilas and Elena Danaan
(24) Also see the Pineal Gland thread
(25) Review: Our Universal Journey + extraterrestrial RECAP
(26) Overcoming the Saturn Moon Extraterrestrial Control System – Pt 2
(27) It’s interesting to note that Kavassilas mentions this ‘control matrix’ from Saturn to the Moon already in 2018, a few years before the advent of Elena Danaan, who also mentioned this Saturn-Moon control element, which seemed to be part of some Anunnaki/Nebu Alliance; for more on that aspect see (28,29)
(28) The Enlil Faction of the Anunnaki and the Saturn Agreement with the Orion Grays (Nebu) – See footnote 5 in this article to see Elena talk about all this in the company of JP, Dr. Salla and Alex Collier.
(29) The Movie-projector is turned off – Are we going to Continue to Play the same Movie or not?
(30) Here’s a part of a Telegram post in May 2025, related to the pineal gland issue: “What Ea (Enki) discovered within the primordial human was a fabulous, multi-galactic genetic heritage and a potential that showed the humans of Earth as one of the most powerful species in the whole Creation. Through activating their potential and their pineal Gland, Ea gave a chance to Humanity.
(31) “George Kavassilas views the chakra system as a synthetic construct designed to manipulate and control humanity, rather than a natural or beneficial aspect of human spirituality. He argues that chakras are part of a “false light matrix” imposed by extraterrestrial or interdimensional entities, often linked to a cosmic control system involving Saturn and the Moon. According to Kavassilas, the seven main chakras, along with the kundalini energy and pineal gland, are artificial implants that fragment human consciousness, limit spiritual potential, and keep individuals bound to a lower-dimensional reality.” (answer from Grok: see the link for sources: https://x.com/i/grok/share/SM6rZZLVRO0QVwNbiedewty5Q)
(32) Telegram groups: Galactic Anthropology (general updates), Galactic Anthropology Study Group (most active group with hundreds of separate discussion topics) Alex Collier and Andromedans Study Group and the Galactic Anthropology Library. Elena Danaan also has her own telegram channel and even her own open telegram chat group. Dr. Salla also runs a Telegram Group that even allows for discussion.
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(c) Also see the Inner Portal Project that explores the psychological/spiritual realms and my Crypto Explorations. When you are interested in the psychological aspects and groep dynamics within the disclosure community, you might want to pay a visit to this new website: Galactic Anthropology: Sidenotes.

Age Accelaration Technique in Secret Space Program

Chris O’Connor is a contactee who says he has served for sixty years in secret space programs. In contrast to the rather horrible experiences Tony Rodrigues had to endure in his 20-year-and-back program (1) , Chris has had much better experiences, mainly as a kind of ambassador due to his well developed telepathic skills, which allowed him to communicate easily with other races, or function as a translator (2).

He was spotted and abducted at an extremely early age from Southern California. At the age of two he was taken to a place where they ‘age-advanced’ him from two years to his mid-twenties in about two weeks time (2). The big advantage of this age-acceleration practice is that the consciousness fits better in the original body – even though it is age advanced – than in a cloned body (3).

screenshot from the movie ‘Replicas’ from 2018

Chris has retained memories of this process and he describes it as rather horrific: the body is put in a kind of pink gel, a DNA-based gel, which is extremely expensive. The gel is grown from the DNA of the person in the gel-tube. Then he says there are quite a number of ‘needles’ that inject this gel into various parts of the body in such a way that it is evenly distributed, to make sure everything grows in a balanced way. He was fully conscious during this painful process which lasted a couple of weeks. After this he could start doing his job first in the area of memory-removal and later on as an ambassador. It is sure worthwhile to listen to his testimony in the interview with Elena Danaan from March 16, 2022 (2).

Replicas
A while ago I watched a movie starring Keanu Reeves. In that movie there are tubes or boxes filled with a liquid that contains the DNA of dear ones of Reeves and it takes 17 days for a body to form out of this liquid-DNA with all the necessary components needed to construct a body added to it. In a snapshot from this movie you can see the moment that the ‘age-advancement’ procedure is finished. If it took longer than 17 days the bodies would have grown older in a rapid pace.

O’Connor says that this DNA-gel can also be used in med-beds. In an earlier article I talked about holographic realignment as another technique used to alter the state of the body (4).

Update September 2022: In an interview with Dr. Michael Salla, Chris O’Connor again mentioned this age-acceleration or age-progression phenomenon (5). In that video Dr. Salla talks about a testimony by William Tompkins who said that they were developing age-regression techniques in the period 1969-1971, which matches the year 1970 that Chris O’Connor as the year that he was age-accelerated/progressed.

Below is an excerpt from this video in which Chris describes the process. Watch the complete video at (5).

Chris O’Connor and Dr. Michael Salla talk about Age Progression (5)

LINKS
(1) Tony Rodrigues – Secret Space Program Experiencer – His book: “The Ceres Colony Cavalier
(2) THE DEEMS DEVICE ~ Gift from the Star People~ With Chris O’Connor. March 16, 2022 
(3) On Human Cloning in the Secret Space Program
(4) Holographic Body Reallignment with a Time Twist
(5) Conducting Diplomatic Negotiations Between Secret Space Programs & Extraterrestrials

On Human Cloning in the Secret Space Program

In an impressive interview that was published on March 17, 2022 we can watch Elena Danaan talk with Chris O’Connor (1). Chris turns out to be another person who was in a 20-year-and-back program (2), and not once, but he signed in for three times! So, that means he was part of the secret space program for 60 years. It is good to get to know more and more people who are willing (if they can remember) to speak about their experiences.

Recently Elena Danaan did an interview with Jean-Charles Moyen (3). During that interview they discovered that they had been on the same spaceship (4,5). Then there is Daniel Rousseau who is about to publish a paperback version of his experiences in English (6). On the last day of 2021 Tony Rodrigues published his book on his experiences in a 20-year-and-back program. I just finished reading this wonderful piece of work (7). There’s also a free book available from Michael Relfe in which he talks about his experiences and the trouble he had regaining his memories (8,9).

Cloning of humans – Image taken from (10)

Cloning of Humans – Three SSP Testimonies
Whereas we on Earth are made to believe that human cloning is not yet possible or at least ethically restricted, it appears that the cloning of human beings is a common practice in the world beyond our planet. Both Tony Rodrigues and Chris O’Connor describe this. In Tony Rodrigues’ book we can read about a few very debilitating accidents leaving behind severe physical harm. In a few cases his consciousness must have been removed from this harmed cloned body to a freshly made one. In the introduction of ‘Ceres Colony Cavalier‘ Dr. Michael Salla talks about clones:

Deem’s device – snapshot from (1). For more on this see information below the youtube video

Cloning, according to William Tompkins (11), had been first developed by the Antarctic Germans with the help of the Draconian extraterrestrials. After the US and the Antarctic Germans had reached agreements in the mid-1950s, it’s not surprising that cloning technology was adopted for use in deep black projects, which involved a high incidence of death among super soldiers fighting extraterrestrials. Using clones while preserving the original bodies in statis chambers meant highly trained and expensive super soldiers could be used again and again in covert space warfare.” (7, p.9)

In the first five minutes of the interview between Chris O’Connor and Elena Danaan (1), Chris talks about how cloning is often done and he describes it as cheaper than another procedure which he calls time-advancement. I will spend more time on that in a separate article. For cloning one needs to extract the consciousness (and memory) of people which would work with a device that looks like the Deems device that he has recreated himself (without of course the consciousness-extraction option). The consciousness would be taken from the area of the pineal gland, with its crystal-like properties.

If I come across more testimonies on the existence of human cloning practices outside our planet I will add them to this page. James Rink also talks about cloning. I don’t know what to think of that, really (12). He did mention the Hulk program which was affirmed by Rousseau and Moyen (13).

BACKUP-CLONES
In a september 2022 interview with Dr. Michael Salla, Chris O’Connor talks about an incident in which he was killed, but his consciousness was transferred to a new cloned body (14).

Chris O’Connor tells about how his consciousness was transferred to a clone (14)

JOHAN FRITZ TESTIMONY
During a conversation in the Elena Danaan Study Group (15), we talked about Alcyone (16) and those malevolent Taal-Shiar (17). One of the members referred to Johan Fritz and how he – being a SSP- super soldier at the Nachtwaffe (Dark Fleet) (18), said how they often visited the Taal-Shiar and the Ooganga reptilians. I was, yet unable to retrieve that fragment, but while listening to an interview he did in 2022 at Journey of Truth (19) he did give an interesting description of how his consciousness was transferred from his own body to a clone, as he was becoming a member of the Kruger team on Mars.

Johan Fritz describes how his consciousness was transferred to a Clone (19)

Johan Fritz says how his cloned (and improved) body (13) would receive his consciousness after some procedure in which his body was put in some kind of vertical tank with a kind of fluid. At the end of this excerpt Johan Fritz said that the Nachtwaffe (Dark Fleet) doesn’t use clones, but wasn’t Tony Rodrigues part of the Nachtwaffe on Mars when he was given another cloned body when the mission with the Martian insects went wrong? (7, for book link).

LINKS
(1) THE DEEMS DEVICE ~ Gift from the Star People~ With Chris O’Connor. March 16, 2022
(2) Age Regression by 20 Years – Moyen and Relfe
(3) Civilization 5D – Jean-Charles Moyen website (in French)
(4) The Excelsior and Solar Warden | Galactic Anthropology
(5) To have a Drink at a Bar or Cafetaria in a Spaceship – Shared Experiences
(6) David Rousseau (only E-book version of book in English available at the moment of writing)
(7) Tony Rodrigues – Secret Space Program Experiencer – His book: “The Ceres Colony Cavalier
(8) Relfe, S. (2000) The Mars Records (pdf)
(9) Booby Traps and Curses to Secure Mind Wipes
(10) Human Cloning – The Duplication of a Living, Breathing Being
(11) Interview with Dr. Robert Wood – Chief Editor of Selected by Extraterrestrials Book 3 (on the work of William Tompkins), Interview March 2022
(12) Human Cloning
(13) The Hulk Program – A Med-bed Program to strengthen People
(14) Conducting Diplomatic Negotiations Between Secret Space Programs & Extraterrestrials
(15) The Elena Danaan Study Group
(16) Some Myths about Alcyone in the Pleiades
(17) Taal-Shiar from Alycone/Jayha
(18) A Short Film: Antarctica and the Origins of the Dark Fleet (youtube)
(19) EP 103 – Johan Fritz – SSP Testimony – Super Soldiers – Advanced Tech – Hidden History (Part 1)