Anunnaki

And the Lights went Out for the Nebu

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( और नबू के लिये बत्ती बुझ गई )

During her first webinar on January 28, 2023 (1), Elena Danaan released exciting new information on the fate of the Nebu, and in that webinar she promised to release that information in another video, which she did a couple of days later (2). There is a lot of information in that video and she will probably write an article about it in the future, but at the time of writing it was not yet available (3).

THE NEBU – SOME HISTORY
The Nebu (6) have been a huge player in our galaxy, especially in the Orion zone. Although Alex Collier said that there were no real winners in the Orion Wars and that the parties just decided to call some undeclared truce because after 600,000 years they got tired of killing each other (7), it seems that the Nebu ended up controlling the important M42 Nebula (8,9). We have recently come to know about deals that were made between the Nebu and certain malevolent members of the Anunnaki family (10).

Key members of the Nebu are the Eban. It were the Eban that are said to be one of the two races that formed the Anunnaki, with the T-Ashkeru from Sirius B being the other (11). These Eban, not to be confused with the Eben (12), have also been important in that terrible deal with the MJ-12 in the United States. On top of all that they loved to abduct people and do experiments on them: they were eager to create hybrids with the intention to finally take over our planet (13,14).

Illustration by Elena Danaan (19, p.51)

THE START OF THE DOWNFALL OF THE NEBU
As you may have heard the Galactic Federation of Worlds together with the Earth Alliance (15) have been fighting a harsh battle to liberate our solar system from all nefarious alien species. This was recently confirmed by John Peterson from the Arlington Institute (16). In her video from February 1, 2023 (2) Elena Danaan reminded us of the start of the downfall of these Gray-collectives that were all united into one huge hive-mind that was controlled by that hive queen from the Orion Nebula. It was in September 2021 that they had to escape from Dulce base, where they had worked with certain secret factions of the US Government since the 1950s.

CAUGHT AT THE GATES OF THE PORTAL OF JUPITER
These Eban officers tried to escape from this solar system by using the Jupiter portal. It probably was the same portal that was used by both Tony Rodrigues and recently for the first time by Elena Danaan (17,18). But the Galactic Federation managed to ‘lock’ the portals and those Eban were caught and put in pods. Elena writes about this catch in her book the Seeders (19). Here’s the relevant excerpt that describes this event:

“These are Eban, a rare and exceptional catch, Thor Han confirmed to me. It is extremely difficult to catch them as they play games with frequency shifts, interdimensional jumps and temporal ‘hide-and-seek’ games. And when we happen to catch one, it disembodies instantly. Either that they escape, or either that they are terminatede remotely by the Hive.

As you know, we recently found the frequency to lock all of the portals in thsi star system, so no one can escape. This is how we caught these ones; they were trying to escape via one of the Portals near Saturn. It is a great catch for the Galactic Federation because, for the first time, we are about to triangulate their brain frequency in an attempt to neutralize the frequency transmission from their Queen-Consciousness, and get to it.

As you know, the Nebu function as a Hive Consciousness, and for the first time in the history of this galaxy, we are going to crack the code. These ones won’t stay here on this ship; they are about to be transported to a safer place.” (19, The Seeders, p.50. Also see (20))

Meisha and Denethor (Illustration by Elena Danaan, 23, p. 201)

DENETHOR
Elena goes on to say that it was Denethor who played a crucial role (21) in cracking the code that connected the Eban to the Hive Queen. Those who have read Elena’s second disclosure book might recognize him from the picture with his friend Meisha (22). Denethor, a Pleiadean officer in charge of the Secret Space Programs linked with the Excelsior (24) and the Science Medical Laboratory.

The cracking of this code on October 4, 2021 by Denethor turned out to have changed the course of our galaxy. In fact, it saved the galaxy from the enormous power of the collective of the Nebu, who had brought tyranny to various parts of the galaxy.

THE SLOW COLLAPSE OF THE NEBU
Elena points out that our tiny little planet proved to be crucial in the liberation of our galaxy, since it was by the escape and the following catch of the Eban that it was possible to track down the frequency code that was essential for their communication.

After the liberation of our solar system, the Galactic Federation didn’t stop. They continued to use this frequency to disconnect every gray species that were connected to the hive, which eventually led to the liberation of the Sirius B (Thula) system in October 2022 (26).

RETURN TO FORMER PLANETARY MATRICES
But it didn’t stop there either. The Galactic Federation of Worlds carefully watched how the Hive Queen lost control of all her Gray Species, who, left without a central leader, returned back to their old planetary matrices. The Federation deemed this a safe development. Because of all this the artificial consciousness of the hive queen withered and it would now be as good as destroyed, causing a galactic breath of fresh air for all species that were once caught under the tyranny of this Borg-like collective, we once knew as The Nebu.

There’s much more in the video, but I’ll leave that for some other time. Be sure to watch this wonderful video (2) yourself!

FOOT NOTES
(1) Webinars – I was part of that first webinar and I asked her about the deal that she made with the Galactic Federation of World, I believe it was with Ardaana, that all her information would be available free of charge, through her videos. Of course people buy her books if they don’t have the time to watch the huge amount of videos, but the information was meant to be shared freely amongst the people of the world. She answered that she still adhered to that promise and that all the information from the webinar would be available in her video, and that is what she did in (2).

Webinar (5)

Personally I am not a huge fan of paid webinars, not because I don’t want to pay for information, but I want to be able to link to information that can be accessed by everybody, either in books or through Elena’s articles or in her videos. When information gets hidden behind pay-walls, that can no longer be done. It hampers the free study of her material. I totally back everything Elena has said in her article: “Do you work for free?“

Another thing about webinars is the huge amount of people (there were about 700 participants), which is fine if you want to distribute information or want to answer questions that can be easily answered, but I don’t think it is a good environment to tackle more complicated matters: I think that Elena should not be overwhelmed with complicated anwers in front of a huge audience.

I think she deserves time to prepare this category of questions beforehand. In her videos she always is very careful in her wording and she prepares every topic thoroughly to make it as clear as possible. This might not be as easy in a webinar where everybody is continually commenting on the sidelines, creating a certain chaotic distracting background noise.

I would recommend an opportunity to ask her questions that only she can see, so there is no pressure at all to answer them rapidly. In a group of 700 anything that questions her work, could be seen as an attack or a sign of disbelief, which is detrimental for any sincere exploration of the information that Elena provides so eloquently and elaborately. Science means that you are allowed to question everything, but in a constructive way. For more on this see (4)
(2) CONTACT Ep. 20 ~ THE ORION AFTERMATH ~ Feb 01 2023
(3) She has written four articles on videos in her contact series. You can watch an overview of her articles and videos in that contact series: Elena Danaan Articles & Contactseries. An overview of her articles in general can be found on her own site at Articles.
(4) Psychological Factors Surrounding the Study of Elena Danaan’s Work
(5) Image taken from APHN Webinars
(6) The Nebu
(7) The Orion Wars – Listen to Alex Collier speak in the video at the bottom of this article.
(8) The Orion Nebula and the Hive Mind
(9) Crop Circles and Binary Messages
(10) The Enlil Faction and the Saturn Agreement with the Orion Grays (Nebu)
(11) The Anunnaki and the Sirius Connection – Danaan & Cinamar
(12) Genetic Experiments and Cloning on Planet Serpo by the Peaceful Eben
(13) A Different Shade of Hybrid Soul
(14) Log in to the Nebu Network with your Personal Hydra Vulgaris Code
(15) The Earth Alliance
(16) John Petersen and the Removal of Malevolent Extraterrestrials from Earth
(17) Experiencers Describe Going through a Stargate
(18) Watching a Nebula from Within
(19) Danaan, E. (2022) The Seeders
(20) Have Tall Gray alien leaders just been captured by the Galactic Federation?
(21) See Timestamp https://youtu.be/erAI0bHQuNM?t=299
(22) As you can see Meisha is a Mantis. You can learn more about Mantids at The Off-World Mantids. Jean-Charles Moyen (25) had a meeting with Meisha when he was a child.
(23) Danaan, E. (2021) We Will Never Let You Down
(24) Excelsior and Solar Warden
(25) Jean-Charles Moyen as a SSP-Witness Hub
(26) Thula and the Collapse of the Dominion

Two Extraterrestrial Perspectives on Jesus Christ – Yeshua

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( Два внеземных взгляда на Иисуса Христа — Иешуа )

In earlier articles we spent some time on the god from the Old Testament. We raised some doubts about the vengeful nature of that god (1), we wondered if you could consider is blasphemous to say that God was an alien (2), and of course there was this link with the Anunnaki half brothers Enki and Enlil, the latter probably responsible for most of the hardships that humanity has suffered the last couple of hundreds of thousands of years (3,4).

So, the various roles of the biblical god were dubious to say the least. According to Elena Danaan both Enki and Enlil were sometimes referenced in the bible as being god. Enki would have been the god who created Adam and Eve through genetic engineering of the then present primates (5), he would have tried to save the people from the flood, whereas Enlil would have been the one that would actually have created the floods (3).

Jesus with Thumbs Up

But what about the main player in the New Testament? What to say about Jesus Christ from an Extraterrestrial point of view? In this article I want to start off with this question by providing two perspectives: the one that we can found in the work of Elena Danaan and the one that is given by the Thiaoouba as they were encountered by the French contactee Michel Desmarquet

JESUS CHRIST AND ENKI
In the Seeders (7) Elena dedicates a short chapter to Jesus and his bloodline. I would advise you to read that chapter to get a more detailed perspective. Elena argues that Jesus’ mother Mary would have been part of a bloodline that would go all the way back to Enki’s Adam.

She builds her argument on the Doctrina Jacobi (6) which was written in 634. She writes: “Some notable points in Mary’s lineage are that she was a descendant of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob…significantly Luke traces Mary’s lineage all the way back to Adam (verse 38)” (8)

As we have learned Enki would have created humanity out of the primate that contained the genomes of 11 star races from other galaxies (9) some 370,000 years ago. This account of Jesus’ bloodline implies that this bloodline managed to survive 368,000 years to finally flow through the veins of Jesus Christ (9)

THE CONCEPTION OF JESUS
On the way of the conception of Jesus, Elena shares a few thoughts too. Let’s read along:

“Regardless of Mary’s specific lineage, that Jesus is a descendant of David and Judah is beyond doubt. My conclusion on that, is the suggestion that Mary, carrier of the royal Enki bloodline, was abducted in the aim of reinforcing the off-world genetic lineage via artificial fertilization. Would these elements alone, among many others, be the reason why the extraterrestrials themselves kept the true history of Earth hidden from Humanity for such a long time, until we are ready to hear it without losing our minds? ” (7, p.517)

In Enki’s account of our history and Elena Danaan’s analysis the Anunnaki and especially Enki plays a pivotal role in the genetic characteristics of Jesus. Mary’s egg would have been infertilized artificially by off world people. This couldn’t have been Enki since Enki had already left some 9,600 years earlier after Enlil flooded the whole place (3). This is another question that needs to be answered in the future: who added whose genes to Mary’s egg in this account of Jesus’ heritage? (17)

THE THIAOOUBA VARIANT
I have come to admire the information that was given to another French contactee, namely Michel Desmarquet. In his book ‘The Thiaoouba Prophecy’ he describes how he was taken in a spaceship by people from a planet called Thiaoouba to their home world. I was inspired to write a few articles based on this perspective which seems to be partially at odds with Enki’s account of our history (11-13). It turns out that the Thiaoouba also have an interesting perspective on Jesus.

Pregnant Mary (15)

In the historical accounts of the Thiaoouba the Anunnaki are not mentioned at all. According to them the Asian and Black races came from a planet called Bakaratini some 1,3 million years ago (12) and another race colonized Mu about 250,000 years ago (13). When talking about Jesus they are clear as well: Jesus came from Thiaoouba.

Let’s hear about their account. Here’s Thao talking to Michel:

“Our plan was to capture public imagination by sending a messenger of peace. The story of the birth of Jesus, as you know it, with the Virgin Mary as mother, is quite true. The appearance of an angel at the Annunciation is correct in every detail. We sent a spaceship and one of us appeared before the virgin, who was indeed a virgin, telling her she was going to become pregnant. The embryo was implanted in her while she was under hypnosis.” (14, p.140)

As you can see the bloodline of Mary seemed unimportant, since she was not artificially impregnated in the way that is described by Elena Danaan. A whole complete embryo is put into Mary’s womb, making Mary more like a surrogate mother, not having any direct genetic link with her son, Jesus.

According to the Thiaoouba, his mission was to impart a message of love and goodness – ‘love one another’ and also to enlighten the people in regard to the reincarnation of astral bodies and immortality. This was all distorted by priests in the time that followed and numerous disagreements led to the rise of the many sects which claim to follow the teachings of Christ. (14, p.145)

In order to retain complete control of their mission a being from Thiaoouba, called Aarioc, cast off his (hermaphrodite) body to enter into a human being, which was created by the Thiaoouba, which allowed him to fully hold on to all the knowledge and abilities from their home world, like resuscitating the dead and curing the blind and the deaf.

SOME CONCLUDING THOUGHTS
Well, what to think of all this? I guess we should ask Jesus himself to get the final answers on what really happened. Both accounts agree on the virgin birth of Jesus. They also both stress the importance of Jesus Christ in human history and the role of extraterrestrials in his birth. In Enki’s account the Anunnaki play an important role through their bloodline and through their artificial impregnation of Mary with unknown genomes (16).

This probably allowed Jesus to perform his miracles. In Thiaoouba’s account Jesus was able to do this because he was fully made by the Thiaoouba’s with all their qualities (except their hermaphrodite character). Both physically and with a Thiaoouba ‘soul’. We don’t get any specifics about the origin of the soul of Jesus in Elena’s account, at least not yet (17).

There sure are a lot of pieces of the puzzle still missing, but I’m confident that one day it will all be made clear to us. Let me know your thoughts on this.

FOOTNOTES
(1) Some Doubts about the Enlil-Yahweh-vibe
(2) Is it Blasphemous to Say God is an Alien?
(3) Enki’s account on the Destruction of Atlantis
(4) Enlil would have faced justice in some interstellar trial: see Anu, Enlil, Enki and the Meeting with the Four Councils
(5) Trying to Understand Enki’s Genetic Template Grail
(6) The Teachings of Jacob
(7) Danaan, E. (2022) The Seeders – See the chapter The Royal Bloodlines – Genealogy of Yeshua (pp 515-519)
(8) Luke 3:38 (Bible Hub) On this website you can get all kinds of translations and versions of this verse. I could detect one version that actually talks about Jesus and his link to Adam. Below are a few of them:

American Standard Version
the son of Enos, the son of Seth, the son of Adam, the son of God.

Aramaic Bible in Plain English
Son of Enosh, son of Shayth, son of Adam, who was from God.

Contemporary English Version
Enosh, and Seth. The family of Jesus went all the way back to Adam and then to God.

Douay-Rheims Bible
Who was of Henos, who was of Seth, who was of Adam, who was of God.

English Revised Version
the son of Enos, the son of Seth, the son of Adam, the son of God.

(9) Our Intergalactic and Genetic Genomes
(10) As far as I understand it, Enki first hybridized human beings with Anunnaki genomes and the genomes of the primates that had those genomes of the Seeders hidden in them. This was done 372,000 years BC (see 6, 495), afterwards at about 360,000 BC he decided to actively add his own genome to the whole, creating the Adamic man. (see 6, 496). Am I correct in concluding that everyone that was born out of this adamic ‘product’ can be said to be part of the Enki bloodline? Or is there a more specific bloodline that Elena Danaan is referring to when she speaks of Enki’s bloodline? Or did Enlil kill off most of this bloodline?

For if humanity would mainly come from Enki’s ‘second experiment’ than most of humanity would be of Enki’s bloodline, wouldn’t it? And what did Enlil do to this ‘divine man’? He somehow managed to shake up the whole genetic household of these humans to make them a rather simple ‘2-stranded human’ that would mainly be used to work for and obey Enlil and his men. If the DNA is shaken up, does that imply that Enki’s bloodline is gone, or just mixed up?

If Enki says he is the “Father” of humanity wouldn’t this imply that we all carry his bloodline in a way? Thinking too much about this gives me a headache, so I’ll leave it at this. If you have anything to explain all this better, please comment below this article.

(11) Let’s Talk About Hermaphrodite Species from Outer Space
(12) On the Origin of the Asian People
(13) The Mu-Mystery – Exploring Lemuria
(14) Desmarquet, M. (1993) The Thiaoouba Prophecy. You can buy the paperback at amazon, or you can download the pdf. For the Chinese community I recommend the work of Samuel Chong – On February 16, 2023 Dr. Salla had an interview with Samuel at: Thiaoouba Prophesy – Contact with a Hermaphrodite ET Race
(15) The Gospel and the Virgin Birth
(16) Elena Danaan doesn’t specify by whom Mary would have been impregnated. Which Stellar race was this? It couldn’t have been the Anunnaki from Nibiru because Nibiru was in the hands of the Enlil faction, and Enki had left Earth right after the flood, some 9600 B.C.
(17) This changed in March 2023. Elena told the Japanese Mariko Kamimura what was the soul origin of Jesus. Read all about it in this article: On Jesus, Jehovah, the Hoova and Thioouba . In order to better ‘house’ this soul whose origin would be somewhere in the Hoova galaxy, additional Hoova genes were probably added during the ‘in vitro impregnation’ (see for more on that webinar 2, at about 2h08′).


On the Origin of the Asian People

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Asian Peoples (4)

( Sur l’origine des Peuples Asiatiques )

While continuing my journey through the book ‘Thiaoouba‘ (1-3) I was triggered to consider the possibility that certain races neither originated on Earth, nor would have been genetically engineered by master geneticists, but would have simply moved to this planet themselves from other worlds.

And then I’m not talking about the 22 extraterrestrial races that were identified by Elena Danaan (5). How does this idea fit with that paradigm? How does this combine with information from other sources? Could the Asian people, or the ‘yellow race’ be one of those groups? Does it make sense? These are the topics that are touched upon in this article.

LEAVING PLANET BAKARATINI
Just like Elena Danaan, Michel Desmarquet was physcially taken aboard a spaceship and was welcomed by friendly people from other worlds (2). These people however are not mentioned in the work of Danaan. They brought him to their world called Thiaoouba and he was told about important historical events that would have taken place on our planet.

Some 1,350,000 years ago people from another planet called Bakaratini (6) that is located in the Centaur Constellation (7) realized that their planet was cooling down, and that they had to search for another planet to live on. There were two different species, or races, living on that planet. During a period of 50 years they would have moved 3.6 million black people and 3.6 million yellow people to Earth which was uninhabited at the time. The black-skinned people colonized Australia (which was in that time still connected to the Asian continent) and the ‘yellow’/Asian people chose the territory of present day Myanmar (11). They established peaceful societies. To learn more about them I recommend reading chapter 3 of the book (1).

TIMING
So, let’s see how this resonates with other sources. The first element I want to pay attention to is the timing of their arrival. In the historical account of Enki there is no mention of people living on Earth at around 1,35 million years ago (12). The Seeders would only return at around 439 thousand years ago (13), to do a few upgrades on their experiment (14), leading to what the Anunnaki called the black heads, the primate that they, the Anunnaki in their turn, used to upgrade to become human beings at about 370 thousand years ago. Well, you know the story. Ashayana Deane does mention the entry of a new root race on the planet 1,25 million years ago (15). There is no word about people from a planet in the Centaur constellation, however.

Various Ethnic Groups or Races – Image taken from Pinterest (20)

THE INTRODUCTION OF RACES TO OUR PLANET
This idea that certain races would have been added to the surface of our planet is something that Patricia Cori also spoke of in her contacts from the Sirian High Council (16). In their account the black, red, yellow and white races would have been invited by the Sirian High Council to send their people from different planets, from various corners of the universe, to inhabit the Earth. The ultimate goal would have been to eventually create a unique stellar human being who would gradually and over time combine the characteristics of all these different kinds of people (and then came the Anunnaki who messed up this experiment).

Cori doesn’t mention people who came of their own accord, as it is described by Desmarquet.

THE ANUNNAKI AND THE ASIANS
One of the reasons why I seriously consider the validity of the Thiaoouba-material is that there is some logic to it, and it covers an area that is not yet satisfactorily covered within Enki’s account of our history, namely the differences between the races on Earth. If Enki made the Adam by combining the dormant genomes of the 11 seeder races (5,17) with his own Anunnaki genes, how does that explain the differences between the races? Would they have all changed so typically in 300,000 years? I haven’t come across anything about this aspect in Elena’s material.

So, there is some logic to the idea that people from other worlds with their own characteristics arrived on our planet. They colonized a part of the planet and established their societies. They mixed with the black people creating the Arab-looking people. All these Asian people might have had long-established civilizations at the time that the Anunnaki arrived and started doing their ‘thing’ in Sumeria. But what about the Seeders? They couldn’t have missed the Asians, could they?

CONCLUSION
It is tempting to just ignore everything that doesn’t resonate completely with the information from Elena Danaan, but that would mean that her material would become dogmatic, and that is of course the last thing that we would want. I don’t like to think of it as a belief system, but as a working hypothesis. I also want to keep an open mind to the experiences of other contactees, even when it doesn’t fit nicely into the current ‘paradigm’. I still believe that we will uncover the real truth someday. Perhaps an ark from the people of Bakaratini or the Thiaoouba might prove useful in this regard.

FOOTNOTES
(1) Desmarquet, M. (1993) The Thiaoouba Prophecy. You can buy the paperback at amazon, or you can download the pdf. For the Chinese community I recommend the work of Samuel Chong
(2) Let’s Talk about Hermaphrodite Species from Outer Space (earlier article based on (1))
(3) On the Other Side of the Bermuda Triangle (earlier article based on (1))
(4) CGTN.com
(5) Our Galactic and Intergalactic Genomes
(6) It made me think about Gabriela Sabatini, the Argentina tennis player from the 1980-1990s. I don’t think she is a descendant from the Bakaratini’s though. Image taken from Gaucho News

Juegos Olimpicos de la Juventud Buenos Aires 2018 Tenis. Gabriela Sabatini. 14.10.2018 Foto Maxi Failla (6)


(7) We have met people from Alpha Centauri B and from Proxima Centauri already, namely the Selosi (8) and the Metoni (9,10)
(8) On the Selosi Alpha Centauri B
(9) Delving into the History of the Meton: Venus, Earth and Mars (and some dinosaurs)
(10) Having a Life Span of Two Thousand Years – The Metoni in the Proxima Centauri System
(11) In order to not make it more complex than it already is, I am focusing on the Asians in this article.
(12) Only the Nagai would have been present, see The Nagai, Igigi and the question of Enlil’s Mother
(13) What happened 439 thousand years ago?
(14) Various Version of Humanity brought to you by Our Creators
(15) Below is the relevant quote from Deane, A. (2002) Voyagers II (pdf). I’m not sure what to think of her material. It is very complex and extremely detailed. I can’t help but thinking that there must be some truth in it, somehow. That’s why I am not inclined to discard her material. She uses her own terminology that is characteristic of these Emerald Covenant CDT-plate translations:

“The Fourth Root Race and its Cloister entered next, the Breanoua Cloister, about three million years ago, followed by the
Alanian Root Race 4 at 2,500,000 years ago. The Alanians became known as the Atlanians. The Fifth Root Race Aeirans and their Cloister Hibiru then entered, the Hibiru 1,500,000 and the Ayrians 1,275,000 years ago. The time period beginning with the Second Seeding 3,700,000 years ago and extending through the Third Seeding into the present time represents the Fourth World
of Native American legend.” (Voyager II, p.29)

(16) The Sirian High Council – The description of the seeding of these races can be found in her book: Cori, P. (2002): No More Secrets, No More Lies: A Handbook to Starseed Awakening. See chapter 2: The Seeding of the Homo Sapiens. This information was channeled. To see an interview between Patricia Cori and Dr. Michael Salla, go to (18). After this interview Elena responded, which led to an article on Channeling and Discernment by Elena (19)
(17) Trying to Understand Enki’s Genetic Template Grail
(18) The Sirian Revelations: An Interview with Patricia Cori
(19) On Channeling and Discernment
(20) Pinterest Pin


The Unknown Ancient Builders or Architects in Our Solar System

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During an interview on December 19, 2022 (1) both Tony Rodrigues, Rebecca Rose and Elena Danaan had something to say about an ancient civilization that would have been present in our solar system even before the arrival of the Pa’Taal or Seeders on our planet. This article presents a video-fragment in which all three talk about their experiences on Ceres, Mars and Saturn respectively with some explanatory background information.

Ancient (fictional) mythical Species from the SF-Movie ‘The Fifth Element’ (1997) (2)

REBECCA ROSE
It was Dr. Michael Salla who first introduced Rebecca Rose in an interview on November 14, 2022 (3). This was followed by an interview with Elena Danaan and Rebecca on December 11, and finally to the abovementioned interview about a week later with Tony added to the whole (1).

The first interview led to three articles on this website: one that dealt with the jump gates that were apparently used and initially by gifted children (5), one that talked about her time on the Ciakahrr planet in the Kuiper Belt (6) another one in which she elaborated on her time with the Mantids on Mars (7).

I was very happy to see a new face that shared her experiences in the secret space program. The more people that show up the stronger the case for the true existence of such a program, for those who still have doubts.

THE HIGHLY ADVANCED SPACE THE MANTIDS ON MARS LIVED IN
As was already said in the first interview with Dr. Michael Salla (3) Rebecca was impressed with the extremely advanced underground whereabouts of the Mantids that she had met during her missions on Mars (7). In the video below she again describes it. She also adds that she believed that it weren’t the Mantids that had made that place, but some older race that might be many million years old. She calls them the ‘Ancient Architects’. Listen not only to her, but also to Elena’s take on the existence of an ancient unknown race and Tony’s.

Rebecca, Elena and Tony talk about Unknown Ancient Species (1)

ELENA DANAAN AND SATURN
After Rebecca, Elena expanded on this topic and referred to her recent visit to Saturn in which she and Thor Han were given some kind of tour around Saturn by Enki, who prefers to be called Ea these days (8). The Anunnaki had apparently taken over Saturn millennia ago and it was forbidden theory for everyone else which was confirmed by Thor Han from the Galactic Federation of Worlds. Chris O’Connor said that there was a space station that was run by some United Nations group (9). Enki said that the surface and the space to the first ring was the sole domain of the Anunnaki and not for the kindest kind of Anunnaki.

During this trip Elena was told that Enki’s son Marduk was made the ruler of Saturn long ago and that he even sided with the Nebu (10,11).

Luckily many things have changed recently with the return of Enki and the Intergalactic Confederation (12,13,14), which made it possible for Elena to safely have this tour around Saturn. In the above fragment Elena talks about a certain area in the atmosphere of Saturn where all kinds of old city ruins were hanging in the sky due to some anti-gravity characteristic of the material that was used (18). Enki told her that this were the remains of a civilization that was in the solar system even way before the Seeders ever arrived and that neither the Anunnaki nor the Intergalactic Confederation have any idea who they were!

Huge gates on Ceres Colony (2000 feet wide, 1000 feet high)
(screenshot from 1)

TONY AND CERES GATES
The final testimony on these unknown ancient beings was given by Tony. He said that during his time on the planet Ceres, that is located in the Asteroid Belt, he saw huge doors that were about 700 meters wide and about 350 meters high.

Tony Rodrigues was told that these enormous stone walls were millions of years old and they still worked and that they were used as airlock doors.

In the video Elena Danaan added some more drawings that were made by Tony Rodrigues that depict Ceres (at around 23′-24′). Ceres was a hot bed for the German Space Program that we have gotten to know as the the Dark Fleet (15) or the Nacht Waffen. The planet was liberated in 2021 (16). To learn more about all the things that Tony experienced during his time on Ceres read his impressive book (17).

CONCLUSION
Based on the testimonies of both Tony Rodrigues, Rebecca Rose and Elena Danaan it appears likely that there indeed was some ancient civilization that has been present in our solar system on at least planets like Mars, Saturn and Ceres. If they are even unknown to the Anunnaki and the Seeder Races that would mean that must have been here before the arrival of the Seeders which was about some 65 million years ago. Who were they? What did they look like? Have they been present on Earth as well? Perhaps we will get to know more about them some day. Who knows, they might have left an ark on Earth as well.

UPDATE FEBRUARY 2024
A lot of new information is being provided about the Ancient Builder Race in episodes of Star Nation News. Take for example the information about the anti gravity matter (20) and news about a connection between these Builders and the core of our Moon (21,22). Corey Goode also mentioned these ancient Builder Race (23).

KOLDAS DEVELOPMENTS
In 2025 Elena Danaan released her book ‘Koldas: Beyond Neptune’ (24). The ancient Architects play a crucial role in this book. Out of respect for her, I will not disclose what she writes about these ancient builders. As a teaser I will give you a fragment from Star Nation News, episode 82 from July 2025 (25):

Elena Danaan on the Anicent Builder Race and the link with her book ‘Koldas’ (25)

LINKS FOR FURTHER STUDY
(1) REBECCA ROSE & TONY RODRIGUES – Corroborating Experience on Mars ~ Dec 19 2022
(2) IL QUINTO ELEMENTO (1997)
(3) 20 Years as a Cyborg Supersoldier on Mars & Kuiper Belt.
(4) THE TWO SIDES OF A WAR ~ Meet the real Martians with Rebecca Rose (Dec 11, 2022)
(5) Using Children to Operate Jump Gates
(6) A Draco Planet in the Kuiper Belt
(7) The Off-World Mantids
(8) NEW SATURN INTEL – ELENA DANAAN & CHRIS O’CONNOR SHARE THEIR REAL TIME EXPERIENCES – IT IS TIME! – For some unknown reason Dani Henderson removed this very valuable video. We have been guessing for the reasons for this (19). It would be great if anyone would simply ask Dani the reason, so we don’t need to speculate on it. Another video with Chris O’Connor was also deleted. Why?
(9) The Interstellar Post on Saturn
(10) How Marduk became the Ruler of Saturn
(11) The Enlil Faction of the Anunnaki and the Saturn Agreement
(12) Enki’s Return and Activating Humanity’s 12 Stranded Adamic DNA Blueprint
(13) The Intergalactic Confederation
(14) Anu, Enlil and Enki and the Meeting with the Four Councils
(15) See Endnote 191 for more on Corey Good and the term Dark Fleet
(16) The Liberation of Ceres
(17) Rodrigues, T. (2021) Ceres Colony Cavalier. Amazon Press.
(18) Exploring Anti-Gravity Material
(19) The Galactic Anthropology Study Group – See topics ‘Chris O’Connor and Mimas’ and ‘Deleted Videos’
(20) Exploring anti-gravity Material
(21) STAR NATION NEWS Ep 18 ~ Feb 19 2024
(22) You can find transcripts of Ea and Thor Han on this element regarding the core of the Moon at Elena’s website.
(23) Removal of Traces of the Builder Race by Other Species
(24) Danaan, E. (2025) Koldas: Beyond Neptune
(25) STAR NATION NEWS 82 ~ 14 07 2025

Body and Soul Compatibility

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There are many pieces to the puzzle of understanding our link with our alien or off-world ancestors. This page deals with an element that I have hardly dealt with on this website, namely the compatibility or incompatibility of the soul and the body it inhabits.

In order to grasp more about this issue of compatibility I will use information on the initial upgrade by Enki, I will talk a bit about the upgrading of the etheric spheres, the Star Seed preparations by the Council of Five and I’ll round it off with some reflections about a dog graduating to become a human. Enjoy the ride.

(Updating Etheric Layer of Earth, 22)

THE UPGRADING OF THE ETHERIC SPHERES
For the time being I take the perspective that is presented in Elena Danaan’s ‘The Seeders’ (1) as the working hypothesis. In this book we can learn that some 65 million years ago a group of beings from outside of this galaxy would have decided to not allow our planet to be a reptilian-only planet (2,3). After making some space they would have upgraded the etheric realms that were needed to assist life in its evolution (6):

“The etheric sphere of planet was upgraded, allowing future humans to begin their soul journey throughout the natural cycles of incarnations via mineral, vegetal and animal reigns. Now, the planet had all its layers of densities, from its core to its outer limits. The planetary matrix was ready for the development of Human consciousness” (1, p.492)

ENKI’S UPGRADE AND THE ADAM
When we fast forward some 64 and a half million years the Anunnaki showed up and performed an upgrade on our biology that had evolved into what they called ‘the black heads’. Perhaps they had turned so black because of a relatively large part of Hoova-DNA? (10). Enki added his Anunnaki-genes to the intergalactic compound of DNA that was still present in these primates. Before Enlil and his team messed things up on most humans, Enki created the Adam, as is described in the Seeders as well:

“The reason why Ea put his own personal DNA into the project, was to maintain control over his creation, via frequency resonance. A healthy upgraded male hybrid was born, fulfilling all expectations of his celestial father. The first individual of the ugraded human beings was named Adam. He was the very first incarnation of an evolved extraterrestrial soul into biologically raw Terran genetic material. In other words, Adam was the first Starseed.” (1, p.496)

THE COUNCIL OF FIVE
Once the etheric realms was ready to allow for the evolution of soul through reincarnation and bodies had developed through the ages to house these evolving ‘home-grown’ souls, the upgrade of the Anunnaki allowed for something new: the entry of souls into human beings that were from other worlds. Apparently this is not a ‘one soul sits all’-concept. Not every soul is able to incarnate in every body. DNA seems to be the key. In order for a soul from a certain star system to actually enter a human body a certain ‘resonance’ with the DNA of the body seems to be necessary.

“Firstly, the hosting bloodline needs to have a minium frequency ratio matching with the incarnating being, and this occurs via DNA. A Mininum percentage of matching DNA means that for instance, a soul from the Errahel planetary soul matrix shall incarnate into a bilogical body that carries sufficient ration of Ahel genes.

Body and Soul (21)

DNA has a frequency, and if there is no resonance between a flesh vehicle and an incarnating soul, the alchemy doesn’t work. On this planet, we are all alien hubrids at some point, except fro some very few hidden tiny tribes in the Rainfrest and utterly remote areas.” (1, p.251)

The Council of Five (11) is a council that has specialized in creating the right ‘homes’ or ‘body envelopes’ for souls from other star systems. The preparations for housing these souls entail the enhancement of the DNA of those that are born on our planet. In other words, in order for ‘Star Seeds’ (18) to be born, their bodies need to be prepared for the ‘frequency’ of their incoming soul.

MOVING UP ON THE EVOLUTIONARY LADDER
So, there are basically two ways to evolve ‘soul wise’ on the ‘evolutionary ladder’ on Earth: there is the ‘slow’ way in the sense that you evolve from plants and animals towards a soul with human qualities through a lot of reincarnations, or there is the ‘fast’ way in which you enter an advantaged human body with a soul from abroad, a soul from another star system.

Thinking about the first ‘slow’ mode of soul-evolution I had to think about what Dolores Cannon (19) wrote in one of her books (20):

“Nature is a different sort of spirit because it is considered a ‘group’ spirit. You can witness this very easily when you watch a flock of birds, a herd of cattle, a hive of bees or a colony of ants. They seem to work and think as a group mentality. So in order to begin progressing upward to the human part of the school (compare it to moving through kindergarten, grade school, junior high, high school, college etc.), you have to separate the soul from the group.

This is done through love. I have been told many, many times that love is the only thing that is real, it is the most important thing of all. If you take an animal into your home, or give it love and attention, you give it an individuality and personality, and help it separate from the group soul so it can begin progression through the human part of the school.” (20, pp 20-21)

LINKS & COMMENTS
(1) Danaan, E. (2022) The Seeders
(2) There are different versions present on why the dinosaurs were wiped out. In Enki’s account of our history the Seeders would have been responsible. See Discovery of an Ancient Crystal Artefact Containing Info that is 65 million years Old for more on this and another source that talks about a war that was to blame for the extinction of the dinosours. See (3) for yet another account that would have been told by Akon, a man that married with Elisabeth Klarer (4). Akon is the brother of Haben with whom Elena Danaan had a meeting in december 2022 (5).
(3) Delving into the History of the Meton: Venus, Earth and Mars (and some dinosaurs)
(4) On Meton Walls, Windows and Doors
(5) CONTACT Ep. 19 ~ THE FUTURE 20 YEARS FROM NOW – with Haben of Meton

The Hoovids/Hoova – A Seeder Species from the Intergalactic Confederation. Drawing by Elena Danaan (1, p.99)


(6) When I started this website I was sure that the evolution theory of Charles Darwin was a bogus theory (7). Since it couldn’t explain the rapid development of man from an ape-like being. The seeding and the hybridizations and inbreedings of all kinds of alien groups and species would have a far greater explanatory power. It now seems that although this would have been the case in our ‘evolution’ because of the seeding by the Seeders from the Intergalactic Confederation and mostly by the upgrade by Ea (8), this doesn’t rule out the possibility that life could develop from minerals to plants and animals into humans and so forth. Lacerta talked about the slow evolution of her species on our planet since the extinction of the dinosaurs (9).
(7) How Astronomers have Failed to See a Thriving Universe
(8) Our Intergalactic and Galactic Genomes
(9) The Lacerta Files
(10) It was ‘Voice of the One in the Wilderness’ who suggested this sensible link in the article on the Hoova, Hoovids and the Hebrews: (linking it to the information in the The Only Planet of Choice) “I am going out on a limb here, but I am wondering if the ones that the Hoova planted before the arrival of the Annunaki might be what Enki described as the black headed ones. And, I might also at this time speculate that Enlil or perhaps one of his progeny may have hijacked the name of Yahweh / Jehovah as it was already encoded in their DNA and psyche, and used it as a method of control. That’s where I am today. Tomorrow, I may be in a totally different place…“
(11) We have come across the Council of Five a number of times before. For one they were present during the ‘trial of Enki’ (12). We have also met a few member species (13, 14, 15) of this group that emerged out of the Orion Wars (16,17)
(12) Anu, Enlil and Enki and the Meeting with the Four Councils
(13) The Ginvo from Procyon – Canis Minor
(14) The Elmanuk from Gliese 832 in the Grus Constellation and the Possible Link with A.R. Bordon’s The Link
(15) The Emerther from Tau Ceti are introduced in this article: Crop Circles and Binary Messages
(16) The Orion Wars
(17) What Came First? The Lyran or the Orion Wars?
(18) The Star Seed Envoy Program
(19) Dolores Cannon has featured before on this website, see Dolores Cannon: The Seeding of Life on Planets appears to be the Standard Procedure
(20) Cannon, D. (2012) The Convoluted Universe: Book Four. Huntsville, Arizona: Ozark Mountain Publishing
(21) Image taken from Storyblocks
(22) Image taken from Soul Guidance


The Exodus from Maldek

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In a video from december 10, 2022 both Elena Danaan and Chris O’Connor talk about Maldek, and once again Chris presents a perspective that seems at odds with the information that Elena has been bringing forward (2). I want to go into that and there is a link with the Ant People (5) that were seen by JP, the military contact of Dr. Michael Salla below the surface of Florida a few months ago.

The Asteroid Belt – Remnants of the Planet Maldek (9)

MALDEK
We have spoken about Maldek a few times before on this website. Maldek, the planet that was destroyed, forming the asteroid belt, would have harboured a colony of the Aldebaran Anunnaki (Janosians). They called their planet ‘Janos’. They left for the Aldebaran system after the cataclysm took place on Maldek (6). In a footnote on the page on the ‘League of the Hairless’ (7) I quoted the reason behind the destruction of the planet, as it was described in the Seeders. It is useful to repeat it here again:

“72.000 BC – A war started on Maldek and some of the inhabitants fled to Earth, Mars and Venus, taking with them some of the ‘Yeti’populations. The conflict involved the Galactic Federation of Worlds and the Intergalactic Confederation on one side, and the Maytra and Nebu Orion Grays on the other side, after Nebu outposts were taken down in the solar system.

Ciakahrr and Nebu had outposts on Maldek and we need to remember that Maytra, Ciakahrr and Nebu are all part of the nefarious Alliance of the Six (the three others are the Zeta Reticuli, Kiily Tokurt and Solipsi Rai but these didn’t get involved in this particular conflict). The war ended in a nuclear disaster in which the planet Maldek was blown up. Everybody who was still on the planet was killed and this catastrophe also caused Mars to start losing its atmosphere” ((The Seeders, pp. 500-501), 8)

So much for the background. In the video below you can hear Elena Danaan add some new information, namely that the Ant People (5) would have lived both on Mars and Maldek. Let’s listen along:

Elena Danaan talks about the Ant People (probably from the Seeders’ root race of the Ashai), Maldek and Mars (1)

In the above video Elena says that the Ant People mainly moved to the Americas when they had their exodus from both Maldek and Mars. In the Seeders we can hear that many of the inhabitants also went to live on the continent of Lemuria, or Mu:

“71.900 BC – The geography of the planet was different in this period of time. A large piece of land existed in the south Pacific Ocean, remembered as “Lemuria”. These territories, who were already a compound of different colonies, received the Martian refugees from the Nebu war in the Sol System and the cataclysmic explosion of planet Maldek.” (8, p.501)

“THEY DESTROYED THEIR OWN PLANET“
After Elena talked about the Ant People from Maldek, Chris adds information that doesn’t seem to match with the story of the fight between the Intergalactic Confederation and the Galactic Federation of Worlds on the one side with the Maytrea and the Ciakahrr on the other side, leading to the nuclear annihilation of the planet. Chris talks about a ‘more mammalian based race who were with the Ant People. And I always knew that they were fighting amongst themselves, ending up, unfortunately, destroying their planet.’

I might interpret this falsely, but it sounds a lot like Chris is suggesting that the Ant People together with this Mammalian based species, destroyed their own planet, without any outside interference, no Nebu, no Ciakahrr and no Intergalactic Confederation or Galactic Federation of Worlds would have played a part.

Chris O’Connor on Maldek (1)

THE SASQUATCH
At the end of this excerpt, Chris talks about the Sasquatch being the ones into which the Mammalian based species would have predominantly incarnated into. Elena does confirm the element of these Sasquatch coming from Maldek. When I looked around a bit on the internet to find out more about the Sasquatch I came across a trilogy from Sunbow, called ‘The Sasquatch Message to Humanity – conversations with Elder Kamooh‘ (11).

In the first book (11) you can find quite a lot of references to the Ant People and Maldek, although the stories don’t seem to match with what is said above. The book seems to imply that Maldek was destroyed by ‘the Elders’ in order to prevent the ‘lower lords’ from invading Earth again (12).

THE NEGUMAK AND MALDEK
In October 2023 during the third chat between Dr. Salla and Thor Han (13,14) we received new information about an earlier presence of the Negumak in our Solar System. They would have had an outpost on Mars and they would have battled the Ciakahrr. They left after Maldek exploded. Stories about Negumak-like insects fighting Ciakahrr would have passed from those people on Maldek and Mars that were moved to our planet some 74.000 years ago. As you can hear in the relevant excerpt below Sam Osmanagich (15,16) told Dr. Salla about these epic tales in ancient narratives.

Thor Han talks about the Negumak and their time on Mars and Maldek (13)

SOME REFLECTIONS
So, there was this huge battle over Maldek, with not only the GFW and the Intergalactic Confederation playing a role, but also the Negumak. They seemed to have all been fighting some members of the Alliance of the Six: the Nebu, The Ciakahrr and the Maytra. What would have been the reason for this fight? We still don’t know the answer to whatever caused this catastrophy

LINKS
(1) GALACTIC NEWS, GIANTS, EA,SPELLS & ENERGY, CHRIS O’CONNOR, ELENA DANAAN & DANI HENDERSON BRING IT! (December 10, 2022) – In October 2023 I noticed a kind of ‘Chris O’Connor-video purge‘ from the Youtube Channel of Dani Henderson. Read more about it in the Elena Danaan and Disclosure Community Study Group (see topic: Chris O’Connor)
(2) We have seen this phenomenon before; think about Chris’ claim that Enlil’s mother would have been an Earth-based Reptilian (3), and that he would have served on a secret space program group from the United Nations in another density Saturn (4).
(3) The Nagai, Igigi and the Question of Enlil’s Mother
(4) The Interstellar Post on Saturn
(5) The Ant People
(6) The Story of the Aldebaran Anunnaki and Outpost 361
(7) The League of the Hairless – Grays and the Like
(8) Danaan, E. (2022) The Seeders
(9) Image from Fine Art America. We have come across other solar system related belts lately as well. This was in the context of the Ciakahrr planet in the Kuiper Belt (10). Ceres is also part of the Asteroid Belt: see The Liberation of Ceres
(10) A Draco Planet in the Kuiper Belt
(11) Sunbow (2016) The Sasquatch Message to Humanity
(12) Below is an excerpt from (11) from page 141. Maldek and Apollyon are one and the same planet.

“This intervention aborted the attempt of the Archons to invade Earth,
but they still had large and fast growing populations on planet
Maldek or Apollyon, that were supplied with new forces through their
star gates.

The Star Elders knew that it was a matter of time before
the lower lords would reform a new army, likely more powerful, for a
new invasion. In order to save the solar system from this darker fate,
they had to eliminate the star gates and armies of fallen souls,
constantly building up in a larger threat.

They took a grave and rare decision in the annals of the universe: to
destroy a planet with life in order to save a solar system’s spiritual
consciousness. With technologies only known to them, the Star
Elders Council sacrificed the planet Apollyon, which exploded and
turned into the actual asteroid belt.”

(13) The Jupiter Hub, Moon, Medbeds, Ukraine & Israel/Palestine – A Conversation with Thor Han Eredyon
(14) On the Connection between Thor Han and Elena Danaan
(15) On the age of the Pyramids – for more on Sam Osmanagich
(16) Ancient Pyramids are Communications Devices used by ETs according to Discoverer of Bosnian Pyramid – Interview between Dr. Salla and Dr. Osmanagich

The Nagai, Igigi and the Question of Enlil’s Mother

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In the video from November 25, 2022 in which Elena elaborates on the history of the Anunnaki (especially Marduk) related to the planet Saturn (1,2) she also shares some thoughts with Chris O’Connor & Dani Henderson about the differences between the appearance of Ea/Enki and his half brother Enlil. She had already given a description of Enlil after she had seen him in that trial before the Four Councils (3,4).

What follows is a remarkable novelty that Chris O’Connor introduced: he suggested that Enlil’s mother ‘was actually from Earth, from the original Reptilian Earthlings‘. Elena responded with talk about the Igigi and the Nagai. Before we delve deeper into this thesis, let’s first watch Elena talk about Enlil and how his mother must have been of the Reptilian kind and then the discussion that follows

Elena Danaan and Chris O’Connor talk about the Reptilian Mother of Enlil (1)

THE COMPLEXITY OF THE ANUNNAKI
It is not easy to get your head around these Anunnaki and their history. In the beginning they would have been made out of a mix of the Eban (Grays) and the humanoid T-Ashkeru from Sirius B (5). You can read more about this birthing of the Anunnaki race at (6). How and when this exactly happened is unclear, but somehow Anu and his sons Enki and Enlil appeared. Of course they did not appear out of nowhere and I was able to find one geneaological tree of Anu’s parents and grandparents. I’m not sure about the source and the validity of it, but it might help in understanding where the Reptilian characteristics of Enlil come from.

One of the Genealogical trees of some important Anunnaki (7)

When we look at this family tree we can notice the striking absence of any Gray or T-Ashkeru. Perhaps Apsu was a Gray, or would he have been a T-Ashkeru? Or would all this mixing between these two races have occurred earlier? Well, anyway. There is this ‘Dragon Queen’ Tiamat at the root of this family tree, and we can see that Enki’s mother is called ‘Antu’ and that Enlil’s mother carries the logical name ‘Ki’ (to make things easier…). So would those Reptilian genes come from Mother Ki? Perhaps Elena can ask Ea to provide some clarification. I mean, he must know whether his aunt is reptilian or carries reptilian genomes (8). I have tried to collect the Anunnaki-family links in another page (19).

UPDATE OCTOBER 2023
In webinar 4 (17) Elena almost apologized for having been given other names than the names introduced by Zecharia Sitchen. She said it was up to the scholars to come to find out where those differences come from. In another video (18) she said that the name of Enlil’s mother, a Ciakahrr queen, is Tia (so, not Ki at all).

THE NAGAI AND WAS ENLIL’S MOTHER AN EARTHLING?
So after all this we can get back to Chris O’Connor’s remark that Enlil’s mother (who we now know as Tia) would actually come from Earth! How logical is this? Chris backs up this extraordinary claim by saying that there the earliest inhabitants of Earth were Reptilians, which is confirmed by Elena in her book the Seeders. These earliest inhabitants were the Nagai. Elena nicely described their arrival in a video from November 16 (9). This would have happened some 200 million years ago (10)

Elena Danaan and the Arrival of the first inhabitants of Earth: the Nagai (9)

Is Chris perhaps talking about these Reptilian guys that would have mainly fled underground after the ‘cleaning up’ of the Seeders (11). Would one of these have somehow met Anu to create Enlil? But why on Earth (mind the pun) would Anu come all the way to Earth to pick up a Naga-woman to produce off-spring with her? And didn’t the Anunnaki only appear on Earth for the first time 372,000 years ago on their famous starship Nibiru with Enlil already born-and-well onboard? (12)

PERHAPS THE IGIGI?
In the talk between Elena Danaan and Chris O’Connor Elena introduces the Igigi. We have recently talked about these Anunnaki-workers at the page on the chronology of the Anunnaki (13) and they don’t seem to be the kind of people Anu would marry with either, I guess. Here’s a quote from the Seeders:

“The Igigi are a sub-class of our kind. They rebelled and were dealt with. Some escaped to the undergrounds of Terra. But you see, my half-brother was concerned with the debit of production. So he made this decision although I was at first not enthusiastic about it. It was decided that we would study the genes of the early humans, the Black Heads, for the purpose of improving their capacities.” (The Seeders (10), p.478)

In a December 2025 analysis of a TikTok-video in Elena’s ‘Genesis Project‘ we could read that the Igigi would in fact be a Reptilian Ciakahrr subcaste. Learn more about it at (20).

ENLIL’S MOTHER WAS A CIAKAHRR QUEEN
In an update from June 2023 (14) we can hear Elena Danaan giving more details about Enlil’s mother. She said that ‘Anu married a Ciakahrr Queen to gain territories’, but that it was a mistake in the sense that Enlil, the son of this ‘marriage’ could not be stopped on Earth, because of the combined powers of the Anunnaki (15), and the Ciakahrr.

Elena Danaan talks about the remarkable parents of Enlil (14)

CONCLUSION
Even though I think Chris O’Connor is a very sympathetic man I doubt his claim that Enlil’s mother would stem from a Reptilian from Earth. If the Anunnaki arrived here on Earth only 372,000 BC (with Enki onboard), when would Anu have had time to ‘date’ this Terran Reptilian woman? It also seems very unlikely that he would have tried anything with the Anunnaki sub-class of the Igigi.

But perhaps Anu had a secret meeting that no one knows about? Who can tell? Where did Chris get this information from? Now we have learned that Enlil’s mother was not just a reptilian, but a Ciakahrr queen. How does this match with that family tree above, who also mentions a queen, but a Dragon Queen, called Tiamat, who according to that tree would be the great-grandmother of Anu? And is it coincidence that Enlil’s mother carries the name of Tia (which is at least half of Tiamat)?

Let’s assume, for the sake of clarity, that Elena is right in her analysis and that Enlil’s mother is a Ciakahrr Queen. What would she have thought of his expulsion? Is she still alive as well, just like Anu? And what does this been for the far more recent mixing between Enlil’s lineage and that of the Ciakahrr around 5700 B.C.? (16)

LINKS
(1) NEW SATURN INTEL – ELENA DANAAN & CHRIS O’CONNOR SHARE THEIR REAL TIME EXPERIENCES – IT IS TIME!
(2) How Marduk became the Ruler of Saturn and The Enlil Faction of the Anunnaki and the Saturn Agreement with the Orion Grays
(3) The Council of the Shining Ones
(4) Anu, Enlil and Enki and the Meeting with the Four Councils
(5) For those who have missed it, the complete star system of Sirius B would have cleared of those Grays, the Nebu because of frequency discoveries made during the clearing of our solar system. Read/Listen all about it in an excellent article by Elena herself at: Collapse of the Dominion
(6) The Anunnaki and the Sirius Connection – Danaan & Cinamar
(7) Family Tree of EN-KI and EN-LIL
(8) Perhaps this reptilian genetic inclination led Enlil to seal this pact with the Reptilian Ciakahrr to produce the Enlil Lineage?
(9) Galactic History: Elena Danaan Discusses Anunnaki, ET Root Races, Atlantis and more – Video November 16, 2022
(10) Danaan, E. (2022) The Seeders – see page 491
(11) Did a Fusion Bomb cause the Extinction of the Dinosaurs some 65 million years ago?
(12) The Planet Ashtari and Spaceship Nibiru
(13) The Chronology of the Era of the Anunnaki
(14) DISCLOSURE ~ Galactic Federation of Worlds~June 11 2023 (5:45 pm EST)
(15) In June 2023 Elena started to refer to the Anunnaki with the term ‘Anach’ (or Anachim). It’s not clear to me why she is making, or has made that particular switch.
(16) The Enlil Lineage
(17) Webinar 4 first 15 minutes
(18) STOP FEARING AND WORSHIPING! Important Message for the Christian community. (October 8, 2023)
(19) The Anunnaki Royal Family: Then and Now
(20) Analysis of ‘The Expedition to Ki’ (by the Anunnaki)


How Marduk became the Ruler of Saturn

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During an interview between Dani Henderson, Elena Danaan and Chris O’Connor new information was given on the history of Saturn (1). This post is an attempt to keep you up to date on the developments, with Marduk as the main new element.

SATURN AND THE ANUNNAKI
As we had already learned from other articles, it turned out that Saturn was part of the Anunnaki territory (2). In the past I wondered how Chris O’Connor could have served on a 20-year-and-back mission near Saturn, when it was in actuality off-limits, even for the Galactic Federation of Worlds (3), but perhaps the new info can shed more light on this oddity.

In the video it was said that the Anunnaki took control of Saturn, but only of the planet itself and the space from the surface of the planet to the first ring. Everything beyond that wouldn’t have under Anunnaki custody. Chris O’Connor’s mission post would have been in this ‘neutral zone’ (4)

Marduk, Enki’s eldest Son (5)

MARDUK
We have spoken about Marduk before. That was in the context of Ningishzida (Thoth)(6). You might remember how Sitchen describes a 350-year long war between Enki’s son Marduk and Ningishzida over Egypt. Finally, Enki (who prefers to be called Ea) would have decided that his son Marduk would become the ruler of Egypt and Ningishzida was sent off to the Americas where he would become known as Quatzlcoatl.

For those who have missed it. The reason for getting into Ningishzida was the discovery of his body that is said to be in stasis in a subterranean world below the surface of Florida (7). Other ‘Giants’ would also be either in the process of awakening or would still be in stasis (8,9).

I haven’t heard anything about the whereabouts of Marduk these days; perhaps some chains would suit him well, too, just like his uncle, Enlil, who was recently seen in chains during a kind of trial in which all of the misdeeds of the Anunnaki in his name were shown (10). One of the consequences of that trial was the removal of Ninurta (Enlil’s son) from the hierarchical structures of Earth, leaving the Cabal walking around like a chicken without a head, as it was so eloquently put by Elena Danaan in a recent video (11).

Elena was taken to Saturn by Enki a short while ago and there she heard about the history of this planet in connection to the Anunnaki. During the rule of the Anunnaki (12) Enki’s son Marduk decided to switch sides and betray his father to join the troops of his uncle Enlil. If that weren’t enough he also asked rulership of Saturn, which was actually granted to him by Enlil. In the fragment below you can hear all about this transfer of power to Marduk.


Elena describes how Enlil got control of Saturn and how this planet was later transferred to Marduk (1)

MARDUK AND THE NEBU
In the interview Elena also elaborates on Marduk’s deal with the Nebu (12) which eventually led to this connection from the Nebu Hive Queen’s center in the M42 Nebula in the Orion Zone (13), through Saturn to our Moon and finally to Earth. This created a field that made it hard for us to tune into our higher potentials. Luckily this complete system was torn down last year (14) and Elena was shown by Ea the black goo ruins of that system in the territory of Saturn (1). The discoveries that led to the expulsion of the Nebu from our solar system would have eventually led to the expulsion of the Nebu from the Sirius B system in november this year (2022, 15).

SATURN AND THE HAND-OVER TO THE EARTH ALLIANCE
After having been a part of Anunnaki territory for ages, the custody of planet Saturn would have been given over (or is in the process of being given over) to the Earth Alliance. This means that humans from Earth/Terra will be in control of this planet, at least when they have the capacity to actually take up that responsibility. Let’s hope the final collapse of the Deep State/Cabal will not take too long and we can finally open up to our galactic kin and spread our wings to other worlds. This hand-over was sealed in the Mimas Agreements (16)

VISIT TO MARDUK ON SATURN BY LARRY FULMER
In July 2023 I got to know Larry Fulmer. He says to have started contacting people from the Inner Earth. I will write a few articles on this in the near future. This is all very fresh information. While watching a video of his from July 19, 2023 (17), he related an older story about what happened to him, probably in 1982. He said that he was taken by a female reptilian looking Anunnaki (18) who he had aggravated during an earlier meeting, aboard a ship that went to Saturn, to meet Marduk. Listen to his account below.

Larry Fulmer talks about his experience on Saturn with Marduk and a female Anunnaki (17)

This account sure matches quite nicely with the intel from Elena Danaan about Marduk as the Anunnaki ruler of Saturn, even though Larry Fulmer later starting sharing rather odd messages about Inner Earth people who wanted to kill ‘the Negatives’ on Earth. More funny things happened and eventually everything seems to have collapsed, somehow. If you would like to read up on the fascinating Larry Fulmer story search for his name in the Galactic Anthropology Study Group (20)

WEBINAR ON MARDUK/LUCIFER
In January 2024, Elena gave a webinar on Marduk and Lucifer. You might like to watch it (21). Thor Han also spoke about Marduk in a Star Nation News episode in August 2024 (22).

LINKS
(1) NEW SATURN INTEL – ELENA DANAAN & CHRIS O’CONNOR SHARE THEIR REAL TIME EXPERIENCES – IT IS TIME! – For some unknown reason this video was removed by Dani Henderson.
(2) The Enlil Faction of the Anunnaki and the Saturn Agreement with the Orion Grays (Nebu)
(3) The Interstellar Post on Saturn
(4) Also see Endnote 170
(5) I found this image on Pinterest. It was interesting to note that while searching for images of Marduk, I saw a few images that supposedly portrayed Marduk, but which weren’t of Marduk, but of Ninurta, his nephew (son of his uncle Enlil). The characteristic ‘bolts of light’ Ninurta obviously distinguishes him from Marduk. There’s an image of Ninurta on the page Anu, Enlil and Enki and the Meeting with the Four Councils
(6) Some Thoth thoughts (a.k.a. Ningishzida and Quatzlcoatl)
(7) The Sleeping Bearded Giant – Ningishzida? – Other giants would also be in stasis in various spots on the world. One of them would be Arunna (8). Enki said that that 12 of them remained. Here’s a relevant quote from him from (9):

[Enki] They were twelve, but four bodies have been destroyed, and one is in the custody of the enemy. Seven remain untouched; four are in the process of activation. (9)

(8) Two separate Iraqi Developments – The Giant Arunna and the Molokhi
(9) 7 Sleeping Anunnaki Scientists are Awakening
(10) Anu, Enlil, Enki and the Meeting with the Four Councils
(11) Here’s a fragment from a video from November 26, 2022: (The Last Wave of Darkness)

The Cabal walking around like Headless Chicken after the toppling of their leader Ninurta

(12) The Nebu
(13) The Orion Nebula and the Hive Mind
(14) The Movie Projector is turned off – Are we going to Continue to Play the same Movie or not? – I added a fragment to this page in which Elena elaborates on the destruction of this Nebu-(black goo)-technology
(15) The Collapse of the Dominion
(16) THE MIMAS AGREEMENTS with CHRIS O’CONNOR / Feb 9 2023 @5pm EST
(17) INNER WORLD CONVERSATION WITH LARRY FULMER AND DR. K PART 1
(18) On the page Should we welcome the Anunnaki with Open Arms or not? I wondered where all the female Anunnaki were. Well, Larry introduced one of them to us, and not a very nice one. If you watch more of that video (17) you can hear him talk about their reptilian features, just like Elena described Enlil (19). The Anunnaki were busy loading lots of gold from Fort Knox in Kentucky to their spaceships to be sent to Saturn.
(19) A Statue Bald Head of Enlil in Sanliurfa Museum
(20) There are two main domains to study: the Galactic Domain (a) and the domain of the (Global) Deep State Structures (b).
(a) Telegram groups: Galactic Anthropology (general updates), Galactic Anthropology Study Group, Alex Collier and Andromedans Study Group and the Galactic Anthropology Library. Elena Danaan also has her own telegram channel and even her own open telegram chat group.
(b) Want to help with studying the Deep State? Join the Gondolath Deep State Study Group or visit the website: Gondolath Project. You can also follow the alternative side of current events at the Laura Aboli Archive.
Galactic Anthropology tries to spread both the disclosure information and the Deep State Explorations at Facebook, X (Twitter), on VK, Youtube and on TikTok. Hope to see you soon in one of the groups! Like, share and subscribe.
(21) WEBINAR #14 – THE SECRET STORY OF LUCIFER – TRAILER or see the webinar page on her website
(22) STAR NATION NEWS 43 ~ August 19 2024


On Q, the Anunnaki and Disclosure

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A tiny part of the left-upper corner of A Q-Map from 2018 (12)

On November 18, 2022 a Q-drop appeared that contained the word ‘Ascension‘, and apparently for the first time (1,2). It is a common practice to see all kinds of Q and Trump-related news appear in communities that are interested in the exploration of the galactic and exopolitical world.

The idea of ‘Draining the Swamp‘ is popular in both groups. In fact, within the paradigm that is developed and studied on this website the various species from organizations like the Galactic Federation of Worlds and the Intergalactic Confederation (9) would be waiting for us to finally expose the Cabal and free ourselves from their millenia-old grip (3,8).

In one of the telegram groups a story appeared that combined this Q-drop 4963 with the information from Elena Danaan (15) on the Anunnaki. This page is about this link between the Q-movement and related elements within the ‘Galactic’ scene (10).

THE Q-MAP
After reading that story by someone (11) who has over 11,000 people in his group I was inclined to add all kinds of comments and links below his post, but I refrained from doing that because I was also reminded of the Q-map and that it contained all kinds of galactic elements. You can find this Q-map at (12) and there were indeed lots of references to the topics discussed on this website. When you look at that huge map you can find words like Solar Warden (13), talk of the Grays (4) and the Reptilians from Alpha Draconis (5). There is mention of the ‘Pleiadeans’ and a whole lot more.

THE ANUNNAKI
In the upper-left corner of this Q-Map we can find references to our well-known brothers Enki and Enlil. Further down below there is also a reference in which the word ‘Anunnaki’ is even used. I don’t know who made this map (14) but it sure contains a lot of interesting items.

For a moment I considered to repeat a lot about what I have already written on this website about the Anunnaki, but since I don’t like repetitions I advise you to read the various articles yourself. We have spoken quite a lot about these guys in the past and a lot of things are current too. You can find the information in the links below (7,11 and links 16-25). The main idea behind this article is to pay attention to this fascinating link between the Q-movement and the galactic topics addressed within the disclosure movement. Perhaps the time has come to shake hands?

For those who would like to either participate in the study of the Deep State/Globalists or Galactic Matters take a look at (26).

Drop 4963 – focus, FOCUS Ascension (2)

LINKS AND NOTES
(1) Q Alert drop 4963 or see Q-Anon Pubs
(2) For those who have never heard of Q or who have only heard the MSM and their regular conspiracy insults towards the Q-movement, here’s a definition:

“Q is a United States Military Intelligence operation, working hand-in-hand with the President of the United States. Some could easily argue that Donald J. Trump was hand chosen years ago by the United States Military to aid them in this critical and historic operation.

Q is not a single person, but a team of high-ranking persons with “Q” level security clearance, executing operations that have been planned for many years (the plan). Some of the objectives are: A) A massive information dissemination program meant to 1) expose massive global corruption and conspiracy to the people. 2) Cause the people to research further to aid further in their “great awakening”. B) Root out corruption, fraud and human rights violations worldwide. C) Return the Republic of the United States to the Constitutional rule of law and also return “the People” worldwide to their own rule. In short, the Q operation is the greatest criminal sting and anti-treason/sedition event in world history.

It certainly does appear that we as a country are lawfully living out The Declaration of Independence once again.” (About Q)

I had written an article on the possible connection between the Q-movement and the Andromedan Council in november 2021.

(3) If you are new to this galactic aspect of matters, certain benevolent groups like the Galactic Federation of Worlds would have actively removed all of the malevolent extraterrestrial groups (4,5), not only from our planet, but from all of their strongholds in the solar system, with places like the Moon, Mars and Ceres (6). That was their part of the bargain. The role of the Anunnaki turned out to be complex. There would have been some kind of ‘galactic trial’ in which Enlil, representing the Enlil faction of this group was found guilty of innumerable crimes against humanity (7). This cleared the way for the removal of his son Ninurta from our planet by Anu (the father of both Enki and Enlil) himself. Our part of the bargain would be to take care of the human people and their tradition of manipulation and control (8).
(4) The Nebu
(5) The Ciakahrr
(6) The Liberation of Ceres
(7) Anu, Enlil and Enki and the Meeting with the Four Councils
(8) It is time to Soar as Humanity and Add the last Stone to the Monument – It is up to Us Now
(9) The Intergalactic Confederation
(10) I prefer to talk about species and people from other worlds instead of using the term ‘Aliens’, because I think that term doesn’t always have the right ring to it.
(11) Below it the story from @QPa…from november 18, 2022. Remember that this is his (or her) post and – like I said in the main text – I was inclined to add all kinds of comments and links to it, but I will just leave it like this for your own discernment. The reason why I don’t post his real name is because I don’t like the way he disregards the copyright of Elena Danaan’s material (see endnote 162). But I like his enthusiasm though. Here are his thoughts:

“Ascension This Ascension is being timed based on lessons learned from 2 previous attempts to raise our species & planet into the 5th Density (out of harms way for eternity). 1 of those times when we were on our way to 5D: A Massive Flood was sent by the now imprisoned Enlil faction of the Anunnaki in which all cultures on Earth retained records of this Great Flood. This is when Atlantis was annihilated in a single 24 hour span. There were advanced cultures all around the world, their structures can be found worldwide to this day.
3rd Time is a Charm History will not repeat itself. We will imprison and/or eliminate all of our enemies prior to attempting the 5D shift this time, unlike 2 previous rushed attempts where our enemies still roamed free. There will be no rush or failure this attempt, regardless if it takes a little more time to complete the transition to 5D. That was the true reason for the Flood, the Great Deluge that destroyed not 1 or 2 but worldwide advanced civilizations who were as well, being mentored by higher density ET’s. They also called it The Great Reset of their time. Humanity had to Start Over around 13,000 years ago—but this time, there will be no Great Reset or Extinction Level Event.
The Great Awakening There is instead, an ongoing Great Awakening accelerating with each moment. While each person is on their own individual path, there will come a time where we all Activate our Dormant Abilities. We will regain our Memory in Full of our Souls History, where we’ve been, what we’ve done. People will Reunite with each other with full knowing of their histories together, including entire soul groups. What was called Junk DNA (Projection) in reality is ET DNA, which is extra-ordinarily powerful. More powerful than my words can do it justice. We regain our Light Bodies in Full, the knowledge of which was almost completely wiped out by the Great Flood. There is Much to look forward to, as we live presently within this very Moment. The Eternal, the Infinite, The Moment of All Moments: The Here, and the Now.“

Related articles on this site: Enki’s Account on the Fall of Atlantis – Anu, Enlil and Enki and the Meeting with the Four Councils – Our Solar System in a Protective Plasma Bubble – The Enlil Lineage – Our Intergalactic and Galactic Genomes

(12) The Q-map, version 2018 (image was still available, but the website had been downed or removed. I hope my website will survive after this post on this heavily censored topic.

See if you can find this in the map above 🙂

(13) The Excelsior and Solar Warden
(14) I even came across a map that contained items like Solar Flashes etc. I prefer the Q-map above
(15) Website of Elena Danaan and the website of Dr. Michael Salla
(16) Two Biological Types of Anunnaki?
(17) The Enlil Faction of the Anunnaki and the Saturn Agreement with the Orion Grays (Nebu)
(18) The Story of the Aldebaran Anunnaki and Outpost 361
(19) The Anunnaki and the Sirius Connection
(20) Nibiru, the planet of the Anunnaki in the Immaru Star System
(21) Two Separate Iraqi Developments – The Giant Arunna and the Molochs
(22) Some Thoth Thoughts (a.k.a. Ningishzida and Quatzlcoatl)
(23) The Sleeping Bearded Giant – Ningishzida?
(24) Seven Sleeping Anunnaki Giants are Awakening (Exopolitics article, november 17, 2022)
(25) Some Doubts about the Enlil-Yahweb-vibe
(26) There are two main domains to study: the Galactic Domain (a) and the Deep State Structures (b).
(a) Telegram groups: Galactic Anthropology (general updates), Galactic Anthropology Study Group, Alex Collier and Andromedans Study Group and the Galactic Anthropology Library. Elena Danaan also has her own telegram channel.
(b) Want to help with studying the Deep State? Join the Gondolath Deep State Study Group or visit the website: Gondolath Project. You can also follow the other side of the news at the Laura Aboli Archive.
Galactic Anthropology tries to spread both the disclosure information and the Deep State Explorations at Facebook, X (Twitter), on VK, Youtube and on TikTok. Hope to see you soon in one of the groups! Like, share and subscribe.

A Few Tiny Peculiarities

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Studying the work of Elena Danaan (12)

Imagine writing three books that contain information that hardly anybody has written about before. This alone is a huge feat and I admire Elena Danaan for her absolutely great work. When the amount of information is getting so large and even keeps on expanding on a weekly basis, it is very understandable to make a few comments that appear not be completely correct.

Since I have spent quite a lot of time on this study mainly of the material by Elena Danaan and that what is brought forward by Dr. Michael Salla and Alex Collier, I sometimes tend to hear things that I think are not totally correct. Perhaps I misunderstand, but it doesn’t feel right to simply ignore these tiny aberrations, at least in my opinion. I have come across two statements that feel a bit odd to me. Of course I could be wrong too.

And again this is not to criticize Elena Danaan, but I don’t want to be a blind devotee either that simply ignores everything that seems a bit off. I prefer to see it as a sign that I take her words very seriously and she’s only human after all. Ultimately it could be used as positive feedback that is intended to keep Elena sharp. It is all work in progress and I like to think that by addressing these small issues we can make progress and discover or correct things together. We are all exploring new territories in a lightning speed.

THE YOUNG GALACTIC FEDERATION OF WORLDS?
In a video interview with Robert Kalil in November 2022 (2) Elena was talking about the after-math of the Roswell crash.

She relates how the Galactic Federation of Worlds came to talk to the Eisenhower Administration in 1954 and offered their assistance in return for at least giving up on all nuclear weapons. What I think is funny here is that Elena says that the Galactic Federation of Worlds was a young federation and not very powerful at the time.

The Galactic Federation of Worlds was a young Federation that was not very powerful at the time (2)

What does she mean with that? The Galactic Federation was created after the Orion Wars (3,4) some 100,000 years ago. I wouldn’t call a Federation that is over 100,000 years old a young Federation. She also seems to imply that a lot has changed since 1954. That during a mere 68 years (on the scale of 100,000 years) the Federation has developed into an old and strong Federation. I think that’s a bit odd.

Perhaps the use of ‘young’ stems from the early times as she described in her book ‘The Seeders’ (5):

” 100,000 years ago when these devastating conflicts occurred on Earth and in this sector of the galaxy, the young Galactic Federation of World got involved. Led at the time by the Pleiadeans, it gathered diverse galactic organizations, alliances and minor confederations into a larger and united structure. The rage of battle to keep territories out of the hands of the Ciakahrr caused tremendous casualties and it was a very painful lesson for the young Pleiadean Galactic Federation. They decided to redirect the goals of the Federation towards different ways of defending justice in the galaxy relegating war as the last option.” (5, p.499)

THE ANUNNAKI WERE PRESENT AND THE GREYS WERE NOT EVEN DEVELOPED YET
In the following excerpt from a video called ‘A History of the Human Race‘ (1) Elena Danaan introduces the arrival of the Anunnaki on our planet for the first time. According to Enki’s account of our history this would have happened 372,000 years ago (6), ‘at a time when the Grays were not really developed yet’, as Elena says in the video below.

The Greys were not yet developed

So, what is odd about this? Alex Collier stated decades ago that the Orion Wars lasted for about 600.000 years and that after that war the Andromedan Council was founded (3). Annax said that after these wars both the now Council of Five and the (young) Galactic Federation of Worlds were created (7). This would imply that this Orion War ended about 100,000 years ago, and more importantly that the war had started about 700,000 years ago, during which period the Anunnaki entered our Earthly spheres for the first time. This was about half way the Orion Wars.

On the page of the Orion Wars (3) we can hear Elena Danaan explain what the Orion Wars were all about and that a huge party in the conflict were the powerful Grays who had united into the Nebu-group. This seems to contradict what Elena said in the fragment above, namely that the Grays were hardly developed. It would seem more appropriate to say that they were a huge force in the Orion Wars and they were probably battling it out with the Anunnaki and other humanoids.

THE ANUNNAKI AS HYBRIDS FROM THE GRAYS (PROBABLY EBAN) AND SIRIUS B T-ASHKERU
Another element that is a bit puzzling is the following: the Anunnaki would be the hybrid result of probably the Eban (a Gray species from Betelgeuse, 8) and the T-Askeru humanoids from the Sirius B system (9). This would logically make the Eban (and thereby the Grays) older than the Anunnaki, since the Anunnaki were probably genetically engineered out of that Gray species. How can it be that the Anunnaki were strong and powerful and the Grays were not really well developed?

THE ANUNNAKI LOST CONTROL OVER THE ORION ZONE
It was in the first interview in which Elena talked about her second meeting with Enki (10) that Dani Henderson asked her about the history of the Anunnaki. You can read more about that at (11), but in the end the Anunnaki would have lost their hegemony in the Orion Zone after these Orion Wars.


LINKS
(1) In a video on November 17, 2022 Elena presented a history of our human race on the channel Portal to Ascension. In this video I heard her refer to her fourth book for the first time. Look at how she disclosed it while talking about a drawing of a Pa’tal:

I thought she said ‘from my new book’, but she might just have said ‘from my last book’… 🙂

(2) Return of the Seeders, Serpent Knowledge, Thoth, Grey/Reptilians, The Nine – Elena Danaan & TSP
(3) The Orion Wars
(4) What came first the Orion or the Lyran Wars?
(5) Danaan, E. (2022) The Seeders
(6) Danaan, E. (2022) The Seeders, p.494
(7) In Contact 3 – Annax the Egaroth on the Orion Wars and the dark insider programs. (Jan 24th 2022) Annax talks about the Orion Wars. In that video he says that both the Council of Nine (which now is the Council of Five) and the Galactic Federation of Worlds was created as a result of these endless Orion Wars. If you push the link you get straight to the point where Annax says that this happened a few hundreds of thousands years ago.
(8) The League of the Hairless or The Nebu
(9) Danaan, E. (2022) The Seeders p.30
(10) I Met Enki (starts at question relating to the origins of the Anunnaki).
(11) The Anunnaki and the Sirius Connection – Danaan & Cinamar
(12) Image found at https://www.pexels.com/nl-nl/foto/portretfoto-van-een-vrouw-met-een-vergrootglas-over-haar-oog-3771107/