What Came First? The Lyran or the Orion Wars?

When I first heard about the Lyran Wars I used to think it made sense to place them before the Orion Wars, but recently some doubts have been cast about this. In order to understand our history it may turn out to be relevant to make up your mind about what you think is to most likely order. This article tries to assist you in this by using five key galactic events that can be ordered in time in different ways. Are you ready for this extraordinary trip through our galactic history?

Logo Council of Five (4)

It is up to you to place these five key elements in the right order. I present them to you in random order.

During the Orion Wars the (Orion) Council of Nine was created. Annax writes about this in The Seeders: “The former Council of Nine from Uru an Na, that you call Orion, was formed a few hundred thousand of your linear years ago, in the purpose to protect the local cultures of the Orion zone against the growing power of the Nebu Empire.” (2, p.256). The Council of Nine (Five) mainly assisted in organizing the rebellion against the Nebu by arming the resistance that developed into a group called ‘The Black League’.

In ‘A Gift from the Stars’ (1) the Galactic Federation of Worlds (GFW) is described as “Created to maintain peace and justice in this galaxy” (p.314). Annax mentions the GFW in a message from January 2022. He said that “the Galactic Federation of Worlds is at work to maintain balance in Nataru, our galaxy. Balance works in favor of evolution.” (2, p.256)

The Galactic Federation of Worlds Logo (4)

When was the Galactic Federation of Worlds created? Annax said: “Shortly after these events [wars in Orion Zone, battle between the Nebu and the Black League] the Galactic Federation of Worlds came into existence in the idea of creating a structure that would work at preserving peace. All cultures member of the Galactic Federation would unite together as one, and become stronger against the Nebu and other trouble makers” (2, p.256)

Elena Danaan lists the main races that are part of the GFW and are involved in assisting our planet: people from Alpha Centauri, Andromedams. Arcturians, Lyrans, Pleiadeans (Ashaari), people from Procyon, Sirius B, Tau Ceti, Telossi, Ummit and Vegans (see 1, pp. 315-316)

The Lyran wars are described as the ones that led to the scattering of the humanoids that lived in a star system they called ‘Man’ and we call Kepler 62. What caused the war that eventually led to the spreading of the people to all corners of our milky way? Here’s a part from ‘A Gift from the Stars’:

Lyra – The Harp (6)

“In reason of an invasion from the Ciakahrr Empire (3), which unfolded into a terrible war, most of these populations fled this system a very long time ago and at the present time, the inhabitants of the Man system are now reptiloid hybrids and under circumscription of the Ciakahrr Empire.

At the time colossal Ciakahrr armadas attacked savagely the planets of the Man system and, taken by surprise, the local races weren’t even equipped to withstand such a cataclysm of this scale. The combat was harsh and violent, and casualties were nonetheless on both sides, but the Ciakahrr had the victory on their side….Heartbroken, billions of Man people left in gigantic arks with testimony of their cultures and habitats.” (2, p.183)

The people from Lyra fled and created new worlds to live on. Some of them joined other people on certain planets, but it seems that a lot of them went to uninhabited planets and ‘terraformed’ them, in the sense that they made them liveable. Here’s an excerpt from Thor Han from a video from April 16, 2020 (7):

I am named by a race Pleiadian from the Pleiades, but this is not my original world. The Pleiades cluster of star is very young and when we arrived there there wasn’t any world able to sustain life. We are Lyrans, we fled our systems because it was attacked by the Ciakahrr empire what you call the reptilian empire, and the survivor colonies fled a little bit everywhere, where they could. Four of our colonies found this cluster, and we settled there, we terraformed the planets and we started colonies. We are named Pleiadians because we live there, but we are Lyrans.” (7)


The Pleiades are a young stellar cluster….the Humanoid species that colonized it arrived a long time ago from the Man system in what you call the Lyran zone. They were colonies of refugees carrying in giant arks three of the four original racial group: Ahel, Noor and Taal” (1, p.248)

Relatively recently I did a page on these Orion Wars (8). Alex Collier talked about these wars and he said that they lasted for about 600,000 years. During these wars the Council of Nine (Five) was created and after these wars not only the Galactic Federation of Worlds was formed but the Andromedan Council as well (9).

Artist’s impression of a (relatively short) Ciakahrr (11)

The first variant seems to be the most logical, at least in my humble opinion. The humanoids were seeded in the Lyra Zone, the Ciakahrr came and the humanoids fled to all corners of our universe to colonize new worlds. This led to colonies that ended up in Vega like the Adari (10) who changed the color of their skin to adapt to the blue star. The Pleiades were colonized – a long time ago – by humanoids from the Man-system that was viciously attacked by the Ciakahrr.

These colonies were formed and the people adapted to their new worlds. Then in the Orion zone a terrible war broke out between the Nebu Grays (and Reptilians according to Alex Collier) and many humanoids. This led to the formation of the Orion Council of Nine (Five) and ultimately the creation of both the Galactic Federation of Worlds and the Andromedan Council. All with the purpose to prevent such a terrible war from ever happening again.

Recently another theory was introduced. This theory holds that there already was a Galactic Federation of Worlds BEFORE the Lyran wars even occurred! Read with me:

100.000 years ago, when these devastating conflicts occurred on Earth and in this sector of the galaxy, the young Galactic Federation of Worlds got involved. Led at the time by the Pleiadians….”

Then only 88,000 BC ago the Lyran event took place as is described:

“Man: The Lyran Refugees. 88,000 BC – The Ciakahrr Empire ransacked the Man System in the Lyra zone. The survivors, on board Arks carrying the archives and DNA bank of their worlds, fled in a widespread diaspora, in search for new worlds to establish colonies” (2, p. 500)

Some of them arrived four thousand years later in our solar system.

To me this raises a few serious questions, the biggest being: how can there be a Galactic Federation of Worlds consisting of people (headed by Pleiadeans) that are from all kinds of planets and worlds that were only colonized AFTER the Lyran Wars (there were no Pleiadeans before the Lyran wars, they lived in the Man-system) when the Lyran Wars didn’t even happen yet?

I would discard this theory right away, if it weren’t that this theory was given to Elena Danaan by Enki himself and presented as the true history of our world.

Elena Danaan says that migrants from Lyra went directly to Earth – Fragment from interview with Robert Kalil, november 2022 (13)

I hope that my logic is flawed somewhere and some people suggested that there were perhaps different timelines or more Lyran wars, but I don’t think that makes sense. Let’s hope I overlooked something somewhere, or misinterpreted it. So far it doesn’t seem to add up. Please correct me if I’m wrong. Share, comment and think along.

(1) Danaan, E. (2020) A Gift from the Stars.
(2) Danaan, E. (2022) The Seeders
(3) The Ciakahrr
(4) Image from (1), p. 313
(5) I came across the Logo at this site: https://ufos-disclosure.blogspot.com/2021/05/is-mars-in-midst-of-planetary.html
(6) National Coat of Arms of Ireland
(7) Extraterrestrial Contacts, April 16, 2020
(8) The Orion Wars
(9) The Zenae from the Andromedan Constellation
(10) Where did the Blue Gods of India Come from?
(11) I once downloaded this image many months ago, but I am unfortunately unable to track down its source. If you recognize it, please let me know. I have referenced every image I have used on this website so far.
(12) What happened 439 thousand years ago?
(13) Return of the Seeders, Serpent Knowledge, Thoth, Grey/Reptilians, The Nine – Elena Danaan & TSP

Some Myths about Alcyone in the Pleiades

Image taken from Earthhow.com (5)

In a telegram post on June 15, 2022, Elena Danaan again repeated something that seems to be quite persistent in some corners of the world, namely the belief that our solar system would somehow be orbiting Alcyone, and that Alcyone would be something like a galactic center. Another prevalent idea is that Alcyone is a heavenly star with nothing but angelic beings vibrating in divine splendor. That doesn’t seem to be the case either.

Elena’s Telegram post on Alcyone
This solar system DOESN’T revolve around Alcyone!!! The Pleiades cluster was created way after this solar system, and we are revolving around the center of this galaxy. Incredible that disinformators are still spreading this kind of nonsense.” (1,20)

Our position in our Galaxy (7)

Pleiades: Age and Distance
So, I did a quick check, and indeed the cluster of the Pleiades is relatively young, only some 75-150 million years (2), whereas our solar system is about 30 times as old (3). I wasn’t able to find an image where the position of the Pleiades is highlighted in our milky way (4), but the distance from our solar system is (only) 444 light years.

If you take a look at the pictures on the right hand side you see that that the distance between the outer edges of our Galaxy is about 100,000 light years, and if you know that we are quite on the outer edges, this means that Alcyone is also on the outer edge, since 444 lightyears is a mere 0,5% of the total diameter of our Milky way. This is of course far from the center of our galaxy.

Who says that Alcyone is the center of our galaxy?
I don’t know to whom Elena Danaan is referring, but I did find a source that talks about Alcyone as the star around which our solar system would be rotating, but it also talks about the ‘Galactic Federation of Light’, which would also be a name that should activate all kinds of alarm bells (8), but let’s stick to Alcyone here for now, and see who claims that our sun is orbiting Alycone:

Precession of the Equinoxes

“THE CENTRAL SUN” is the second in command after THE GREAT CENTRAL SUN. The Central Sun is the GALACTIC CENTER of our galaxy. And, just as Sirius is the star system which is namely The Great Central Sun, ALCYONE is The Central Sun, which is the central star belonging to the constellation of Pleiades, as the center of its orbit. Our Solar System is in an outer orbit from Alcyone and we rotate around Alcyone in a 26,000 year period.” (8,18)

I recognize this 26,000 year cycle as the amount of time it takes for our planet to finish one wobble. This process is called the precession of the equinoxes, see image. Is it coincidence that this – apparently false source according to Elena Danaan – talks about 26000 years which is about the same as Earth’s wobble? If you know any other actual sources that mention Alcyone as the star that we would be orbiting, let me know.

The People from Alcyone/Jayha
In the article on Channeling and Discernment (10) I referred to a video by Elena Danaan in which she talks about how to check the ones who are contacting you. In this particular video she also talks about Alcyone. Here’s a quote from that video (11):

In the Pleiades you don’t have only tall blonde people you have also regressive reptilians in Alcyone Star System. You have the Taal, very benevolent species but you also have a fraction of them called the Taal-Shiar, who have made an alliance it with the great regressives in Alcyone.” (11)

Pleiades (17)

In Elena’s book ‘The Gift from the Stars’ (12) we can read: “They named themselves ‘Taal Shiar’, ‘Taal main-world-ones’ and named their planet ‘Taalihara’, orbiting around the star Alcyone: the main Taal planet. They tried to build their own little empire from there, a thing that was quasi impossible regarding the overpowering threat of the the Orion and Ciakahrr empires.

By opposition of their brothers Taygeteans, they did not join the Galactic Federation of Worlds, and instead allied with the Ashtar (19) and Altair Collectives and some Orion malevolent groups. They are involved in the misdeeds of the Cabal on Terra, and a painful disgrace to the Man races. They also gave a world in the Alcyone system to a reptilian presence.” (12, p.250)

If you want to know more about these Taal-Shiar and the revolt on that planet you should definitely read the story of Akvaruu, in another book of Elena Danaan (13), or watch a video in which Akvaruu plays an important role (14).

Illustration of Akvaruu of Taalihara (16)

In an emotional video Elena Danaan talks about these Taal-Shiar from Alcyone and how they are manipulating humans:

But these people manipulated by the Pleiadians from Alcyone and the reptilian collective should stop spreading lies, because you’re not doing good to humanity. You should wake up and realize that you are being fooled.” (15)

Well, it seems that Alcyone is not what it appears to be: no angelic, divine space of inspiration; not the holy center around which our solar system revolves, but it might just be the source of much manipulation and disinformation. So, next time you hear someone talk about messages from the Pleiades, ask yourself: from which star/planet in the Pleiades.

Update October 2022: In Alex Collier’s Defending Sacred Ground (21) from 1996, we can already read about Alcyone: “Those that live in the system around Alcyon, some of them cannot be trusted, as they have hidden agendas” (p.102)

(1) Elena Danaan Telegram
(2) The Pleiades (Open Star Cluster) Facts
(3) How Old Is The Solar System?
(4) Sometimes I try to practice my skills in using the names of the the various stars as they are called by the people who live on planets orbiting those stars. Alcyone is called Jayha (see 6), and our Milky Way Galaxy is known as Natáru
(5) Milky Way Galaxy: 200 Billion Stars and Our Solar System
(6) The Real Names of Various Stars – How they are called by their own People
(8) On https://www.sangeetahanda.net/earth-sirius-connection you can read about the Galactic Federation of Light, here’s a part of that website:

The members of The Galactic Federation of Light act as Physical Angels and radiate Light and Love into areas of darkness, and oversee the evolution of all its star planetary systems in order to carry out the eventual ‘Divine Fate’ prophesied for our Milky Way Galaxy.

The Galactic Federation of Light is located on the star planetary system Sirius. And many on earth are liaison officers for, or honorary members of, The Galactic Federation of Light. Yes, this is true and you could very well be one of them reading this article!
(9) Ecohustler on Pinterest
(10) On Channeling and Discernment
(11) Tips to Know who you are dealing with
(12) Danaan, E. (2020) A Gift from the Stars. Amazon Press.
(13) Danaan, E. (2021) We will Never let You down. Amazon Press. For the story of Akvaruu go to pages 226-232).
(14) Q&A with a Galactic Warrior – June 8/2021 (with Akvaruu, June 8, 2021)
(15) The Galactic Federation of Worlds is here to help Humanity of Earth (video, April 13, 2021)
(16) Interstellar Contacts
(17) Pinterest Merlynhawk
(18) See Endnote 60 for more on the Photon band, Barbara Hand Clow and Alcyone
(19) Ashtar Galactic Command and the Ashtar Collective
(20) After writing this article I noticed that Elena had talked about this as well in her June 15, 2022 video.
(21) Collier, A. (1996) Defending Sacred Ground.